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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Oct 13, 2020 21:11:21 GMT -5
Which of the accusations against Joey Ryan happened at or around Impact events? Either at them, or at locations related to them (like the hotel after the Impact taping, etc)? I don't know if it matters in court or not, but "you did creepy stuff when you weren't at work for us, so we're firing you" could play out differently in a courtroom than if he had harassed people "in the workplace," at their shows. It seems like most (all?) of the accusations are from random independent shows he was on, rather than Impact shows. That he did something a week after their show on an independent booking isn't really "on their watch," after all (or if he did something a year before joining Impact, for example). They can probably still figure out a legal justification for letting him go, but it's definitely a complicated legal situation when the Impact talent isn't exclusive, and they might do things elsewhere that is against company standards. They definitely need to add some sort of language to future contracts that says they can let anybody go for any reason based on their actions, prior to or after joining the company. But a clause like that reads particularly badly for a prospective talent that they are trying to convince to sign with them instead of signing elsewhere. Most places can fire you on the spot for criminal harassment whether you did it on their watch or not. It would be like if I robbed a bank and expected to keep my job just because I did it on the weekend.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 13, 2020 22:52:10 GMT -5
If a "Don't be a f***ing rapist or we're firing you" clause is going to scare away talent, then they're talents nobody needs.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 14, 2020 0:16:58 GMT -5
Yeah when this started I said either Joey Ryan is full of shit or Impact's HR department are morons. It's looking more like the latter if they actually included a clause about not being able to terminate someone immediately for something this egregious. They may be able to wiggle out of this because its vague but the first expression you have hammered into your hwad during HR training is the words "Legally Defensible". I can almost guarantee you that there are outs of those clauses I would be willing to bet that such a clause would be enforceable if the allegations were publicly known prior to Joey Ryan signing with Impact, protecting him if Impact got buyer's remorse should the public get renewed interest in those allegations due to the Speaking Out movement. However, since the allegations were not known at the time of his signing, they likely don't count as a past event, and that would be the likely strategy that Impact's attorneys will argue in court. Of course, I'm pretty sure at least one allegation took place after Joey was signed, so even if the court rules that the clause works in Joey's favor, it may not be enough.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 14, 2020 6:20:09 GMT -5
Which of the accusations against Joey Ryan happened at or around Impact events? Either at them, or at locations related to them (like the hotel after the Impact taping, etc)? I don't know if it matters in court or not, but "you did creepy stuff when you weren't at work for us, so we're firing you" could play out differently in a courtroom than if he had harassed people "in the workplace," at their shows. It seems like most (all?) of the accusations are from random independent shows he was on, rather than Impact shows. That he did something a week after their show on an independent booking isn't really "on their watch," after all (or if he did something a year before joining Impact, for example). They can probably still figure out a legal justification for letting him go, but it's definitely a complicated legal situation when the Impact talent isn't exclusive, and they might do things elsewhere that is against company standards. They definitely need to add some sort of language to future contracts that says they can let anybody go for any reason based on their actions, prior to or after joining the company. But a clause like that reads particularly badly for a prospective talent that they are trying to convince to sign with them instead of signing elsewhere. Most places can fire you on the spot for criminal harassment whether you did it on their watch or not. It would be like if I robbed a bank and expected to keep my job just because I did it on the weekend. You can pretty much fire anyone at any time for any reason as long as it’s not an illegal reason (discrimination, retaliation for protected activity). You can be given more protection than that through things like contracts.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Oct 14, 2020 7:56:48 GMT -5
Most places can fire you on the spot for criminal harassment whether you did it on their watch or not. It would be like if I robbed a bank and expected to keep my job just because I did it on the weekend. You can pretty much fire anyone at any time for any reason as long as it’s not an illegal reason (discrimination, retaliation for protected activity). You can be given more protection than that through things like contracts. Right I forgot, Yanks have that "at will firing" thing we don't have here. Yeah taking that into account they probably can just fire him.
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Post by polarbearpete on Oct 14, 2020 9:06:14 GMT -5
You can pretty much fire anyone at any time for any reason as long as it’s not an illegal reason (discrimination, retaliation for protected activity). You can be given more protection than that through things like contracts. Right I forgot, Yanks have that "at will firing" thing we don't have here. Yeah taking that into account they probably can just fire him. Well they could have without a contract. You can agree to give more protection under a contract which they seem to have done here.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Oct 16, 2020 4:17:45 GMT -5
Joey Ryan Shut Up Challenge 2020
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Oct 23, 2020 2:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by Larryhausen on Oct 23, 2020 14:55:08 GMT -5
Damn. I grew up down the street from the bar in question here. Don't think I've been there in 15 years.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 23, 2020 16:05:50 GMT -5
Joey Ryan's the dirt worst and these lawsuits do nothing to disprove that. A Youtube video viewed 808 times. Imagine.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Oct 24, 2020 17:46:22 GMT -5
Well, if everybody knows that you're human f***ing garbage, you may as well be rich human f***ing garbage.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 24, 2020 17:53:59 GMT -5
He's hoping to stop others speaking out against him, isn't he? Hopefully these wrestlers are based places with anti SLAPP laws on the books.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Oct 24, 2020 18:59:35 GMT -5
Which of the accusations against Joey Ryan happened at or around Impact events? Either at them, or at locations related to them (like the hotel after the Impact taping, etc)? I don't know if it matters in court or not, but "you did creepy stuff when you weren't at work for us, so we're firing you" could play out differently in a courtroom than if he had harassed people "in the workplace," at their shows. Not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure employment law doesn't work like that.
Say your company does random drug tests, you pop for something, and you get the boot. "I didn't do the drugs while I was actually working!" probably isn't going to save you.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Oct 25, 2020 8:39:04 GMT -5
Which of the accusations against Joey Ryan happened at or around Impact events? Either at them, or at locations related to them (like the hotel after the Impact taping, etc)? I don't know if it matters in court or not, but "you did creepy stuff when you weren't at work for us, so we're firing you" could play out differently in a courtroom than if he had harassed people "in the workplace," at their shows. Not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure employment law doesn't work like that.
Say your company does random drug tests, you pop for something, and you get the boot. "I didn't do the drugs while I was actually working!" probably isn't going to save you. it won't. comitting criminal offenses is pretty much one of the only reasons a company can fire you without needing to argue for it. I've said this earlier and I don't know why people keep acting like him dong this bullshit when he was off the clock with Impact somehow means they can't fire him over it. by this logic Joey Ryan could going around committing serial murder and Impact wouldn't be able to fire him as long as he was off the clock.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Nov 24, 2020 1:48:55 GMT -5
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Post by Glitch on Nov 24, 2020 5:54:45 GMT -5
Ever since this happened, he's been really amping up his faith and his charity work on social media.
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Post by eJm on Nov 24, 2020 6:07:55 GMT -5
I might be wrong but the suit with Ryan and Primeau seems to boil down to
“I’m suing you for damages”
“But I’ve never been to California”
“It doesn’t matter”
“Yes it does”
“Na-uh”
“Ya-huh”
“Na-uh”
“Ya-huh”
Etc
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Post by Jaws the Shark on Nov 24, 2020 7:57:55 GMT -5
Ever since this happened, he's been really amping up his faith and his charity work on social media. Remind any British posters of anyone? Now then, now then.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2020 8:18:12 GMT -5
Ever since this happened, he's been really amping up his faith and his charity work on social media. It's so utterly transparent what he's doing, but there will doubtless be people who buy it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Nov 24, 2020 9:26:29 GMT -5
Ever since this happened, he's been really amping up his faith and his charity work on social media. It's so utterly transparent what he's doing, but there will doubtless be people who buy it.
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