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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jun 26, 2020 18:03:01 GMT -5
Aside from actually valuing people's health, you'd think they'd take it as a chance to knock up a bunch of masks with wrestler logos on and sell them online. Have the "audience" decked out in them. Every one of their beloved reaction shots could be a promo for merch but it would also actually be a good idea as well as easy money.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 26, 2020 18:06:12 GMT -5
Also there's been a few pages and a few posts but; yes, personal responsibility is a big part of this and there's a strong risk that someone who wasn't doing things smartly ended up bringing it in. But that is entirely where the whole point of systemic responsibility comes in; a government that's not taking proper measures and an employer who by all legitimate counts--rather than good faith assumptions online that keep being proven wronger and wronger by the day--isn't treating this with a twentieth of the gravity they should is where personal responsibility leaves the hands of the individual. Someone can be a reckless idiot and get themself and their household sick. But when they show up to work and nobody's allowed to wear a mask, social distancing straight up isn't happening not just on camera but in general, and everything they do seems to be openly flaunting themselves before the eye of fate, this is on WWE's hands. They've enabled reckless people to get people who had played it safer sick, and it's no coincidence to me that we quickly went from a couple fringe cases of an employee getting it and staying home to a wild outbreak that's reportedly broken into the thirties and may not be done yet.
If WWE wasn't clownshoes, they wouldn't let one sloppy idiot infect everyone who works for them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 18:06:43 GMT -5
I'm starting to think Roman and Sami weren't just calmly allowed to sit home. It's probably more like every other "optional" thing Vince wants. They call it optional for legal purposes, but then they lean on you and bully you into doing the stuff when you refuse. Moxley, Jericho, Punk, just a few names who have openly discussed this. Roman Reigns probably arrived to the WrestleMania tapings, saw absolutely no one giving a shred of a f*** about his life, and he bounced. And good for him. Roman (the character) is scorched earth with fans anyways. Legit my own stupidass desires? This dude quits WWE and goes to literally any other company as Joe Anoa'i and let the real man develop as a character. I'm sure Roman is locked up in a contract that he won't be getting released from any time soon, but Roman would kill it in NJPW with GoD. Or in AEW where he can be something besides boring babyface #345. either way, Joe the guy needs to go somewhere where he'll sink or swim on his merits without the WWE system anchoring him or buoying him up, depending on how you look at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 18:07:14 GMT -5
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Jun 26, 2020 18:07:23 GMT -5
Aside from actually valuing people's health, you'd think they'd take it as a chance to knock up a bunch of masks with wrestler logos on and sell them online. Have the "audience" decked out in them. Every one of their beloved reaction shots could be a promo for merch but it would also actually be a good idea as well as easy money. shop.wwe.com/face-masks-and-neck-gaiters/Why they don't have the "crowd" wear them I guess because god forbid they don't want their faces covered so they can't have the crowd look bored excited.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jun 26, 2020 18:10:43 GMT -5
Well what the hell?! Even more ridiculous!
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jun 26, 2020 18:53:41 GMT -5
No shit. I got the Mustafa Ali and Kane masks delivered before WWE even considered putting them on TV themselves. It's such a baffling disconnect.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 18:57:23 GMT -5
All of this is so stupid and backwards that I’m 99% positive that a certain someone had told Vince not have people wear masks, lmao.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jun 26, 2020 19:28:00 GMT -5
All of this is so stupid and backwards that I’m 99% positive that a certain someone had told Vince not have people wear masks, lmao. DAMN YOU BYRON SAXTON!!!!!!!!
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Post by DerktheDerk on Jun 26, 2020 20:27:46 GMT -5
From the Observer:
"It’s also notable that neither Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Paul Levesque or Mark Carrano contacted her as of 6/25 to ask how she was doing, although a lot of talent did."
Cool dudes running that company.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 26, 2020 20:32:33 GMT -5
Another thought on the 'some wrestlers were out on the beach and shit' thing is that if wrestlers are practically flaunting their lifestyles on social media, that's not a mystery. WWE can see those posts. Any responsible company taking even the slightest measures would tell their wrestlers "We're not going to control your lives, but if you're going to go out and you're going to take these risks, tell us so we can take you off TV for a few weeks. If you want to be booked, stay at home, and if you do stuff like this, we want to know and we want you to be quarantined two weeks before coming back". The fact wrestlers are out there posting themselves at bars, partiesd, or beaches on instagram adn the comapny thinks it's fine is horrific.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 26, 2020 20:40:24 GMT -5
Here's my issue with a story like this. Talent has already come out and said they have COVID like Renee, Adam Pearce, Kayla, and Jamie Noble. So either they can talk about it or they can't, but we have clear evidence that they have talked about it. On the flip side, look at that list. Two road agents and two interviewers. The narrative right now is that there are no PC classes because it’s being used for production so it’s easier to say “Hey, it’s only our road agents who have it. We can send them home and we’ll have others who are around to take their place”. Same with the interviewers, and yeah Renee has been on Smackdown more but, well, someone else can take her and Kayla’s spots anyway. You’ll hardly notice. Most interviews, they can say, are recorded under the 15 minutes it takes for two people to cross contaminate one another. Now, if any superstar came out publicly, that would cause a bigger fuss. What matches have they been in? Who did they share the locker room with? Who else did they make contact with outside of that locker room? You’ll suddenly have fans going back in the books and they might actually realize the damage is bigger than first presumed. I’m not saying it’s true or the case, that’s just from looking at whose confirmed and their standing.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Jun 26, 2020 20:42:35 GMT -5
From the Observer: "It’s also notable that neither Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Paul Levesque or Mark Carrano contacted her as of 6/25 to ask how she was doing, although a lot of talent did." Cool dudes running that company. Can you blame Moxley for wanting to be public about Renee’s prognosis when her bosses apparently don’t give a shit?
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jun 26, 2020 20:43:04 GMT -5
Here's my issue with a story like this. Talent has already come out and said they have COVID like Renee, Adam Pearce, Kayla, and Jamie Noble. So either they can talk about it or they can't, but we have clear evidence that they have talked about it. On the flip side, look at that list. Two road agents and two interviewers. The narrative right now is that there are no PC classes because it’s being used for production so it’s easier to say “Hey, it’s only our road agents who have it. We can send them home and we’ll have others who are around to take their place”. Same with the interviewers, and yeah Renee has been on Smackdown more but, well, someone else can take her and Kayla’s spots anyway. You’ll hardly notice. Most interviews, they can say, are recorded under the 15 minutes it takes for two people to cross contaminate one another. Now, if any superstar came out publicly, that would cause a bigger fuss. What matches have they been in? Who did they share the locker room with? Who else did they make contact with outside of that locker room? You’ll suddenly have fans going back in the books and they might actually realize the damage is bigger than first presumed. I’m not saying it’s true or the case, that’s just from looking at whose confirmed and their standing. I feel like that the road agents getting it would actually be one of the worst case scenarios, because they're often a go-between from Vince and/or the writers to the wrestlers themselves. And they often agent more than one match, too.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jun 26, 2020 20:44:15 GMT -5
Dave had extensive details on how the situation happened with Renee and Moxley. They wanted the story out there.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 26, 2020 20:47:07 GMT -5
On the flip side, look at that list. Two road agents and two interviewers. The narrative right now is that there are no PC classes because it’s being used for production so it’s easier to say “Hey, it’s only our road agents who have it. We can send them home and we’ll have others who are around to take their place”. Same with the interviewers, and yeah Renee has been on Smackdown more but, well, someone else can take her and Kayla’s spots anyway. You’ll hardly notice. Most interviews, they can say, are recorded under the 15 minutes it takes for two people to cross contaminate one another. Now, if any superstar came out publicly, that would cause a bigger fuss. What matches have they been in? Who did they share the locker room with? Who else did they make contact with outside of that locker room? You’ll suddenly have fans going back in the books and they might actually realize the damage is bigger than first presumed. I’m not saying it’s true or the case, that’s just from looking at whose confirmed and their standing. I feel like that the road agents getting it would actually be one of the worst case scenarios, because they're often a go-between from Vince and/or the writers to the wrestlers themselves. And they often agent more than one match, too. Both would be, absolutely. But there’s a difference between someone who hasn’t been on WWE TV in an age saying they got it and, say, someone who was booked for Extreme Rules saying they have it.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 26, 2020 20:53:38 GMT -5
Aside from actually valuing people's health, you'd think they'd take it as a chance to knock up a bunch of masks with wrestler logos on and sell them online. Have the "audience" decked out in them. Every one of their beloved reaction shots could be a promo for merch but it would also actually be a good idea as well as easy money. shop.wwe.com/face-masks-and-neck-gaiters/Why they don't have the "crowd" wear them I guess because god forbid they don't want their faces covered so they can't have the crowd look bored excited. Dunn: How Will I shoor to the crowd every 2 minutes if they have masks?!
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 26, 2020 20:55:37 GMT -5
On the flip side, look at that list. Two road agents and two interviewers. The narrative right now is that there are no PC classes because it’s being used for production so it’s easier to say “Hey, it’s only our road agents who have it. We can send them home and we’ll have others who are around to take their place”. Same with the interviewers, and yeah Renee has been on Smackdown more but, well, someone else can take her and Kayla’s spots anyway. You’ll hardly notice. Most interviews, they can say, are recorded under the 15 minutes it takes for two people to cross contaminate one another. Now, if any superstar came out publicly, that would cause a bigger fuss. What matches have they been in? Who did they share the locker room with? Who else did they make contact with outside of that locker room? You’ll suddenly have fans going back in the books and they might actually realize the damage is bigger than first presumed. I’m not saying it’s true or the case, that’s just from looking at whose confirmed and their standing. I feel like that the road agents getting it would actually be one of the worst case scenarios, because they're often a go-between from Vince and/or the writers to the wrestlers themselves. And they often agent more than one match, too. Road agents are a worst case scenario from a practicality standpoint, but not as much from a PR one. Nobody knows or cares who Jamie Noble is or what his job description entails. Say a wrestler has it and suddenly that has a risk of looking bad in the media.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 26, 2020 21:00:26 GMT -5
Well that Smackdown was awkward as hell to watch after all this COVID news
The "fans" FINALLY had damn masks on which should have happened when they first showed up anyway but everyone was in extremely close quarters to begin and end the show and "Celebrate Taker". Can't say that wasn't awkward...
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jun 26, 2020 21:01:44 GMT -5
From the Observer: "It’s also notable that neither Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Paul Levesque or Mark Carrano contacted her as of 6/25 to ask how she was doing, although a lot of talent did." Cool dudes running that company. Honestly, I don't see Renee staying with WWE when her contract is up.
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