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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jul 1, 2020 19:39:59 GMT -5
Heath Ledger was f***ing incredible in Brokeback Mountain. I was excited from the moment I heard he was cast as Joker.
Maybe I ran more in circles of film nerds who were also superhero fans but most of my friends were excited too.
Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York. She was way over her head.
Denise Richards as a nuclear scientist in The World is Not Enough. LOL, no.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 20:31:08 GMT -5
I'm sticking to comic film adaptations here (and not counting WTF's that ended up great like Keaton). Halle Berry as Storm Keanu Reeves as John Constantine Jennifer Garner as Elektra Ezra Miller as Barry Allen Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor Matthew Goode as Ozymandias Topher Grace as Eddie Brock Nicolas Cage as Johnny Blaze Chris O'Donnell as Dick Grayson Stephen Amell as Casey Jones Megan Fox as April O'Neil David Thewlis as Aries Jamie Bell as Ben Grimm Jeremy Irons as Alfred Patrick Wilson as Ocean Master Willem Dafoe as Vulko Joel Kinnaman as Rick Flagg Olivia Munn as Psylocke Shaquille O'Neal as John Henry Irons I contemplated things like Jared Leto as Joker and Oscar Isaac as Apocalypse, but to me those are way less bad casting and way more bad direction/writing. The rest of the ones I listed were going to suck no matter what. I imagine most of these got the part on their name alone and/or they looked a lot like the character. Berry: Big name, attractive. Makes sense. Reeves: Looks like Constantine. Big name. Garner: Looks like Elektra. Action vet doing Alias. Miller: No idea. Eisenberg: Riding high from Social Network. Zuckerberg as Lex would have been better. Goode: Solid pick. Grace: No idea. Cage: Big name. Big fan of the character. O'Donnell: Beat out Marlon Wayans and DiCaprio because he looked tougher. Amell: Eh, why not? Fox: Cause she's hot? Thewlis: No idea. Bell: No idea. Irons: Big name. Adds credibility. Wilson: Eh, why not? Dafoe: A name. Has range. Kinnamann: Eh, why not? Munn: Hot. Looks a lot like the character. Shaq: Huge dude. Charisma for days. Looks like the character. A lot of your reasons are "she's hot" or "why not?", which aren't the strongest of arguments. Also, Keanu Reeves and Jennifer Garner don't look like Contantine and Elektra respectively. I'm not being rude, that's just a matter of actual fact.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 1, 2020 20:41:27 GMT -5
Yeah... for starters Constantine is Blonde and British... his original design was literally Sting from the Police.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 1, 2020 20:57:30 GMT -5
I imagine most of these got the part on their name alone and/or they looked a lot like the character. Berry: Big name, attractive. Makes sense. Reeves: Looks like Constantine. Big name. Garner: Looks like Elektra. Action vet doing Alias. Miller: No idea. Eisenberg: Riding high from Social Network. Zuckerberg as Lex would have been better. Goode: Solid pick. Grace: No idea. Cage: Big name. Big fan of the character. O'Donnell: Beat out Marlon Wayans and DiCaprio because he looked tougher. Amell: Eh, why not? Fox: Cause she's hot? Thewlis: No idea. Bell: No idea. Irons: Big name. Adds credibility. Wilson: Eh, why not? Dafoe: A name. Has range. Kinnamann: Eh, why not? Munn: Hot. Looks a lot like the character. Shaq: Huge dude. Charisma for days. Looks like the character. A lot of your reasons are "she's hot" or "why not?", which aren't the strongest of arguments. Also, Keanu Reeves and Jennifer Garner don't look like Contantine and Elektra respectively. I'm not being rude, that's just a matter of actual fact. Well, a lot of female comic book characters are attractive. Garner could have had black hair, and Keanu could have been blonde to help. I knew Constantine was British, but Keanu is up there with Dick Van Dyke for worst English accent. Haha. Speaking of DareDevil, I thought Affleck looked like Matt Murdock come to life. And Farrell as Bullseye was cheesey fun, even though he wasn't classic Bullseye. As for the "Why not's," I was saying I don't know who would have been better. I think the actors they got did a decent job. I also don't know a lot or sometimes anything about a comic character.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 21:40:18 GMT -5
Yeah... for starters Constantine is Blonde and British... his original design was literally Sting from the Police. And a massive asshole lol
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 1, 2020 23:46:23 GMT -5
Any movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger was playing a normal, red blooded American. Raw Deal may have been the purest distillation of this. He plays a small town sherrif who's recruited to go undercover with the Mafia. No one questions any of this.
I'm a fan of Arnold's, but I'm still amazed he had a career besides Conan and The Terminator, much less being one of the biggest movie stars in the world.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 1, 2020 23:56:30 GMT -5
Yea, I was about to say wasn't he put on specifically because he can portray a complex Tony Stark thanks to his own issues Basically, yeah. Interestingly, RDJ was not the first choice. Inititally Favreau wanted to cast a relative unknown, before offering the part to Sam Rockwell, only to change his mind after seeing Downey's screentest. Downey himself didn't think he'd get the part, but auditioned anyway because he was an Iron Man fanboy as a teenager. I didn't know that about Rockwell, that makes him getting cast as Justin Hammer, the wannabe Great Value version of Stark, that much better. Glad Favreau still ended up casting him for that role.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jul 1, 2020 23:59:49 GMT -5
Basically, yeah. Interestingly, RDJ was not the first choice. Inititally Favreau wanted to cast a relative unknown, before offering the part to Sam Rockwell, only to change his mind after seeing Downey's screentest. Downey himself didn't think he'd get the part, but auditioned anyway because he was an Iron Man fanboy as a teenager. I didn't know that about Rockwell, that makes him getting cast as Justin Hammer, the wannabe Great Value version of Stark, that much better. Glad Favreau still ended up casting him for that role. it is great... I love Hammer as the wannabe Tony... having not having the charisma or wanting to have to spend the money to do it the bad tanner all over his hands in that one scene is a great touch.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 2, 2020 0:01:57 GMT -5
I mean Evans and Pratt were known but they weren’t superhero material Pratt was just a pudgy dude and he got himself in great shape. Evans has F4 which didn’t take off and I always remember him not another teen movie even still to this day Evans was ripped in F4 though, so you could say he had superhero potential. And the first F4 movie did ok, if I remember correctly. I also think of NATM with him. Haha. I remember George Clooney being a leading contender for Captain America. That's actually how I pictured a big budget movie Cap. Clooney had the jaw, hair, charisma, superhero (yeah yeah, we know, Batman & Robin sucked) and I pictured Cap as older for some reason. And of course, John Krasinski was almost Cap. Probably because he looked Cap-like in Leatherheads. Honestly, if Favreau hasn't decided to go with the Ultimate U version of Nick Fury, I think Clooney would have made a great 616 version of Fury in hindsight. Not that I would want Sam replaced at all, he's great as Nick.
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Post by Shark on Jul 2, 2020 0:05:12 GMT -5
Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana will be, uh, interesting to see. But Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor has to take the cake. Ok back the cast-mobile up here. Kristen Stewart is going to play Princess Diana in a movie? Princess Diana of Wales? I mean, what?!
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Post by Chainsaw on Jul 2, 2020 0:06:40 GMT -5
What's funny is that Reeves had a strong reputation for being wooden in his performances around that period, and yet the one film in the early 90s where he really shows his emotion isn't the Shakespere movie, the Coppola flick, or the Gus Van Sant project. Its as Ortiz the Dog Boy in Freaked: Golly do I love that movie. Haven't seen it in awhile, it seems to be one of those movies that has fallen off the face of the earth. Amazing performance by Randy Quaid too in that. "Twelve milkmen IS theoretically possible. Thirteen is silly. Looks like there's one milkman too many, Coogan!" Alex Winter is an underrated treasure.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 2, 2020 0:52:37 GMT -5
Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana will be, uh, interesting to see. But Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor has to take the cake. Ok back the cast-mobile up here. Kristen Stewart is going to play Princess Diana in a movie? Princess Diana of Wales? I mean, what?! Yep, a lot of people reacted the same way you did too.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 2, 2020 3:06:53 GMT -5
Evans was ripped in F4 though, so you could say he had superhero potential. And the first F4 movie did ok, if I remember correctly. I also think of NATM with him. Haha. I remember George Clooney being a leading contender for Captain America. That's actually how I pictured a big budget movie Cap. Clooney had the jaw, hair, charisma, superhero (yeah yeah, we know, Batman & Robin sucked) and I pictured Cap as older for some reason. And of course, John Krasinski was almost Cap. Probably because he looked Cap-like in Leatherheads. Honestly, if Favreau hasn't decided to go with the Ultimate U version of Nick Fury, I think Clooney would have made a great 616 version of Fury in hindsight. Not that I would want Sam replaced at all, he's great as Nick. Clooney was being courted for a Nick Fury project at one point until someone showed him the first issue of the Garth Ennis Fury miniseries. With the asian prostitutes and what not. That ended Clooneys interest in working with Marvel entirely. ADDED: Some accounts say it was the strangling with intestines climax. I have always heard the prostitute thing and that makes more sense IMO.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Jul 2, 2020 15:05:02 GMT -5
Kristen Stewart as Princess Diana will be, uh, interesting to see. But Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor has to take the cake. Ok back the cast-mobile up here. Kristen Stewart is going to play Princess Diana in a movie? Princess Diana of Wales? I mean, what?! Yep, it's like they picked a name out of a hat.
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Post by agent817 on Jul 2, 2020 22:03:08 GMT -5
Michael Clark Duncan as Kingpin...but then he stole the whole damn movie. King Kong Bundy was right there! He acted. He has "King" in his name. lol. I thought MCD was great. Unfortunately, there's asshole racists out there. Big fat white Kingpin isn't live action friendly. Maybe later slimmed down Kingpin, but Duncan was great.I always think of Ian McKellen as Magneto. I grew up seeing Magneto as a big muscle guy, who just happened to have white hair. Then they cast a very non-threatening looking old man in the movie. I was like, "Really?" Great actor, great voice, and he pretty much is Magneto the way Stewart and Jackman are Prof. X and Wolverine. But I still think, "He just looks like everybody's grandfather." I heard that Vincent D'Onofrio did that role well on the Daredevil Netflix show.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 2, 2020 22:08:20 GMT -5
King Kong Bundy was right there! He acted. He has "King" in his name. lol. I thought MCD was great. Unfortunately, there's asshole racists out there. Big fat white Kingpin isn't live action friendly. Maybe later slimmed down Kingpin, but Duncan was great.I always think of Ian McKellen as Magneto. I grew up seeing Magneto as a big muscle guy, who just happened to have white hair. Then they cast a very non-threatening looking old man in the movie. I was like, "Really?" Great actor, great voice, and he pretty much is Magneto the way Stewart and Jackman are Prof. X and Wolverine. But I still think, "He just looks like everybody's grandfather." I heard that Vincent D'Onofrio did that role well on the Daredevil Netflix show. If they bring Kingpin to the movies, he needs to be casted without question He is the definitive Kingpin
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Jul 2, 2020 22:18:35 GMT -5
Ok back the cast-mobile up here. Kristen Stewart is going to play Princess Diana in a movie? Princess Diana of Wales? I mean, what?! Yep, it's like they picked a name out of a hat. I’ve always thought Kristen Stewart gets a lot of unfair shit and most of that stems from her being in Twilight. She’s had a few mis-steps but she’s matured as an actress and is a mile away from her “vacant staring” in the Twilight saga. Robert Pattinson has managed to escape the shadow of that saga through some great performances, hopefully Stewart can too.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jul 2, 2020 22:21:40 GMT -5
Any movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger was playing a normal, red blooded American. Raw Deal may have been the purest distillation of this. He plays a small town sherrif who's recruited to go undercover with the Mafia. No one questions any of this. I'm a fan of Arnold's, but I'm still amazed he had a career besides Conan and The Terminator, much less being one of the biggest movie stars in the world. I liked him playing a spy in "True Lies". Like the hulking "American" guy with a strong accent wouldn't be conspicuous in almost any setting. Awesome movie though.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 2, 2020 23:09:09 GMT -5
Yep, it's like they picked a name out of a hat. I’ve always thought Kristen Stewart gets a lot of unfair shit and most of that stems from her being in Twilight. She’s had a few mis-steps but she’s matured as an actress and is a mile away from her “vacant staring” in the Twilight saga. Robert Pattinson has managed to escape the shadow of that saga through some great performances, hopefully Stewart can too. Both Stewart and Pattinson are massively underrated actors who've more than "redeemed" themselves for Twilight. Pattinson actually admitted he only took the role because it would give him the name recognition and financial security to allow him to take on "real" roles that challenged him as an actor despite not paying much or offering much in the way of mainstream recognition. Smart dude. Stewart's equally willing to take chances, and to date is the only American and one of only five foreigner actresses to ever win a César award for acting (basically the French equivalent of an Oscar). She's got the chops.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 3, 2020 0:16:45 GMT -5
Any movie where Arnold Schwarzenegger was playing a normal, red blooded American. Raw Deal may have been the purest distillation of this. He plays a small town sherrif who's recruited to go undercover with the Mafia. No one questions any of this. I'm a fan of Arnold's, but I'm still amazed he had a career besides Conan and The Terminator, much less being one of the biggest movie stars in the world. I liked him playing a spy in "True Lies". Like the hulking "American" guy with a strong accent wouldn't be conspicuous in almost any setting. Awesome movie though. Fun fact: when they were filming the bridge scenes here, Arnold was supposed to visit some of the local schools. He ran out of time before he came to ours and sent the school an autographed photo. I still laugh about that.
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