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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 21:37:55 GMT -5
Hager needs better trunks tho. He looks like he is in his warm up wrestling gear
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Post by Celgress on Jul 1, 2020 21:41:22 GMT -5
As much as I detest Super Cody, I can't blame him for this match. Hager is simply boring in the ring (and outside of the ring). He should be relegated to being the muscle who very rarely, if ever, has a full-length match.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 21:41:39 GMT -5
Hager needs better trunks tho. He looks like he is in his warm up wrestling gear I couldn't stop staring at them. They looked like swim trunks and the color was so vibrant compared to everything else around them that the eye just snapped straight to them.
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Post by chrom on Jul 1, 2020 21:43:16 GMT -5
Hager needs better trunks tho. He looks like he is in his warm up wrestling gear Looked like a blueberry with them on
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 1, 2020 21:43:27 GMT -5
Hager needs better trunks tho. He looks like he is in his warm up wrestling gear I couldn't stop staring at them. They looked like swim trunks and the color was so vibrant compared to everything else around them that the eye just snapped straight to them. He legit looks like he is wrestling in his underwear You could told me that was a pair from UnderArmour and I would have believed you. Stick to black with that
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Post by Starshine on Jul 1, 2020 21:46:25 GMT -5
Personally, I don't really get much interest in the weekly (or so) title defences thing. Mainly because 9 times out of 10 you never expect a title change to come out of them, so it's just busy work. I like Cody as champion, and think the run has enough legs to last for the long term, but only if they actually put work into his feuds, like they were doing before his title win. It's nice to see wrestlers like the Private Party guy getting a shot, but it doesn't really mean a whole lot when it's in the middle of two other underdog challengers doing the same general match structure.
So even though I think Jack Hager is a total load, I'd still prefer to see some sort of actual feud come off of this match instead of Cody just putting the belt against someone like Marco Stunt in a week or two. Cody's at his best when he's got a personal feud to work with. The matches can sometimes be hit or miss, but his strength has always been dragging the emotion into the match.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 1, 2020 22:02:20 GMT -5
Hager have an MMA fight upcoming? I assumed he would if they're going with a suspension angle. Usually any wrestler who assaults a referee gets a suspension angle. Precedence for it in Nyla being out for a bit after powerbombing one of the refs.
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Post by markymark on Jul 1, 2020 22:11:09 GMT -5
I assumed he would if they're going with a suspension angle. Usually any wrestler who assaults a referee gets a suspension angle. Precedence for it in Nyla being out for a bit after powerbombing one of the refs. Mox only got a fine and never got suspended right?
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Post by Cyno on Jul 1, 2020 23:06:24 GMT -5
Personally, I don't really get much interest in the weekly (or so) title defences thing. Mainly because 9 times out of 10 you never expect a title change to come out of them, so it's just busy work. I like Cody as champion, and think the run has enough legs to last for the long term, but only if they actually put work into his feuds, like they were doing before his title win. It's nice to see wrestlers like the Private Party guy getting a shot, but it doesn't really mean a whole lot when it's in the middle of two other underdog challengers doing the same general match structure. So even though I think Jack Hager is a total load, I'd still prefer to see some sort of actual feud come off of this match instead of Cody just putting the belt against someone like Marco Stunt in a week or two. Cody's at his best when he's got a personal feud to work with. The matches can sometimes be hit or miss, but his strength has always been dragging the emotion into the match. The TNT Championship is basically AEW's take on the World Television Championship. I'm not sure if they'll defend it on PPV's or not, but it's meant to a belt that's defended regularly on TV. Cody's got an establishment reign right now as the first champion, but it should be believable that he can lose it on a random Dynamite as much as on a Double or Nothing or All Out.
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Post by Starshine on Jul 1, 2020 23:18:25 GMT -5
Personally, I don't really get much interest in the weekly (or so) title defences thing. Mainly because 9 times out of 10 you never expect a title change to come out of them, so it's just busy work. I like Cody as champion, and think the run has enough legs to last for the long term, but only if they actually put work into his feuds, like they were doing before his title win. It's nice to see wrestlers like the Private Party guy getting a shot, but it doesn't really mean a whole lot when it's in the middle of two other underdog challengers doing the same general match structure. So even though I think Jack Hager is a total load, I'd still prefer to see some sort of actual feud come off of this match instead of Cody just putting the belt against someone like Marco Stunt in a week or two. Cody's at his best when he's got a personal feud to work with. The matches can sometimes be hit or miss, but his strength has always been dragging the emotion into the match. The TNT Championship is basically AEW's take on the World Television Championship. I'm not sure if they'll defend it on PPV's or not, but it's meant to a belt that's defended regularly on TV. Cody's got an establishment reign right now as the first champion, but it should be believable that he can lose it on a random Dynamite as much as on a Double or Nothing or All Out. That's fine, but title matches only really matter when there's some sort of build towards the match. The whole idea of a title belt is that it's a McGuffin to double the stakes involved. If there's no stakes at the outset, it doesn't really add a whole lot more. I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with an underdog challenger taking the champion to their limit. In fact, AEW has done that well in the past with Darby Allin and Scorpio Sky wrestling for the world title. But both of those matches also had builds to them, so they meant more than any of the defences Cody's had thus far. Just defending a belt regularly doesn't make it mean more (i.e. look at how the WCW TV belt ended), there has to be some semblance of importance attached to the matches too.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2020 23:22:51 GMT -5
The TNT Championship is basically AEW's take on the World Television Championship. I'm not sure if they'll defend it on PPV's or not, but it's meant to a belt that's defended regularly on TV. Cody's got an establishment reign right now as the first champion, but it should be believable that he can lose it on a random Dynamite as much as on a Double or Nothing or All Out. That's fine, but title matches only really matter when there's some sort of build towards the match. The whole idea of a title belt is that it's a McGuffin to double the stakes involved. If there's no stakes at the outset, it doesn't really add a whole lot more. I'm not arguing that there's anything wrong with an underdog challenger taking the champion to their limit. In fact, AEW has done that well in the past with Darby Allin and Scorpio Sky wrestling for the world title. But both of those matches also had builds to them, so they meant more than any of the defences Cody's had thus far. Just defending a belt regularly doesn't make it mean more (i.e. look at how the WCW TV belt ended), there has to be some semblance of importance attached to the matches too. For me, the belt should do what Cody said he was gonna do at the onset, and give peeps a "Tryout Match" to either get signed or get exposure, like Ricky Starks If you don't have a teeth sinking storyline aspect, what you need is the surpise aspect. Even if it's someone on the roster, the surprise element gives Cody no prep time, that's how the open challenge should be until he gets it taken off of him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 1, 2020 23:48:42 GMT -5
Arn's thoughts on the aftermath
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 2, 2020 0:27:24 GMT -5
Arn's thoughts on the aftermath Singling out Sonny Kiss as being in line for a title match, along with free agents.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 2, 2020 1:00:19 GMT -5
Cody needs to wrestle the rightful contender WARHORSE. I'd take Matt Tremont too but I think WARHORSE is a bigger name. Also I think Hager is the only dud signing for AEW, he doesn't fit in with their style at all and Cody tried his hardest to make this a good contest.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 2, 2020 1:16:28 GMT -5
Cody needs to wrestle the rightful contender WARHORSE. I'd take Matt Tremont too but I think WARHORSE is a bigger name. Also I think Hager is the only dud signing for AEW, he doesn't fit in with their style at all and Cody tried his hardest to make this a good contest. I disagree when it can come to presentation. He was money in the Stadium Stampede and has been money other times in the Inner Circle when he's just being a big dork. He plays off of Sammy incredibly well specifically
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 2, 2020 1:26:44 GMT -5
Cody needs to wrestle the rightful contender WARHORSE. I'd take Matt Tremont too but I think WARHORSE is a bigger name. Also I think Hager is the only dud signing for AEW, he doesn't fit in with their style at all and Cody tried his hardest to make this a good contest. I disagree when it can come to presentation. He was money in the Stadium Stampede and has been money other times in the Inner Circle when he's just being a big dork. He plays off of Sammy incredibly well specifically Out of the ring I agree, but in ring you can admit hes been lackluster. Out of the big names they've signed, I'd say hes probably the worst.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 2, 2020 1:35:21 GMT -5
I disagree when it can come to presentation. He was money in the Stadium Stampede and has been money other times in the Inner Circle when he's just being a big dork. He plays off of Sammy incredibly well specifically Out of the ring I agree, but in ring you can admit hes been lackluster. Out of the big names they've signed, I'd say hes probably the worst. As an enforcer I like him, in multi-man's I think he's good as well. But he's never lit the world on fire as a wrestler. I think for what he is he's ok. He's gotten his big shots and failed so hopefully he eases back into those roles.
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Post by lucas_lee on Jul 2, 2020 2:37:43 GMT -5
Out of the ring I agree, but in ring you can admit hes been lackluster. Out of the big names they've signed, I'd say hes probably the worst. As an enforcer I like him, in multi-man's I think he's good as well. But he's never lit the world on fire as a wrestler. I think for what he is he's ok. He's gotten his big shots and failed so hopefully he eases back into those roles. Yeah I hope so too. I think him having a budding MMA career is what's holding him back. I thin him doing multiman matches are better. I dont think I could stomach another singles Hager match
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Post by 4real on Jul 2, 2020 4:49:15 GMT -5
If the purpose of the finish is Cody is eventually turning heel then I get it but otherwise I don’t know what they are doing.
I don’t mind if Hager looks dumb he’s never been the sharpest tack anyway character wise.
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Jul 2, 2020 5:17:30 GMT -5
It was better than the last time these two had a match when Cody was Stardust but yeah. The referee punch at the end was the main bit of interest but Hager needs better ring gear, heck it doesn't even have a logo or anything on it to break it up a bit.
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