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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 15:31:59 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I really can’t remotely buy OC as an actual threat to Jericho so I can’t claim to mind on the main event. .... Beyond that it’s probably just so Jericho can lose to Tyson at some point anyway, I do quite mind that idea.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 3, 2020 16:32:56 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} I do agree I wish Cassidy would have won, and frankly if this leak gains momentum I hope it doesn't turn AEW viewership off to the main event again. I'm just wondering if they did it because there aren't fans present and they want Cassidy to get that big pop in front of people.
Jericho's probably gonna beed to be in a big mach for All Out though, so it doesn't shock me he won here too badly, I don't think it'll hurt Cassidy if the match is as competitive as it sounds, I just hope AEW starts building the hot talents they know they have and doing it soon. The names can only get you so far for so long. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} The thing is you can’t rely on fans coming back. OC needed that W and could have been spent off into other things like a program with Cody where he is legit in line for a TV title shot
Unless Jericho is going for the world title, he didn’t need the W. He’s had how many pinfall losses in AEW? 2?
There is where AEW needs to improve on. Right now the biggest win for a young guy is MJF over Cody and that really got negated since he’s under Cody on the totem pole right now. They got to make current stars because these Ls will matter and it only takes a little while for fans to start giving a wrestler the choker label {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} For me as well it may have all come down to timing. Inner Circle's losing a lot, I think Jericho may have needed the win for the group standpoint. Hager lose and got suspended, PNP lost to Private Party, Guevara's suspended obviously but if the match would have stayed the same he would have lost to Hardy and Priavte Party possibly. I think Jericho needed the win to show he's still one of the top guys here while Orange went toe to toe with him and only lost to Jericho's best
I think you can build on this for both dudes, you can even have a rematch down the line where Cassidy wins. For now I'm cool with it, let's see where they go.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 3, 2020 16:56:11 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} The thing is you can’t rely on fans coming back. OC needed that W and could have been spent off into other things like a program with Cody where he is legit in line for a TV title shot
Unless Jericho is going for the world title, he didn’t need the W. He’s had how many pinfall losses in AEW? 2?
There is where AEW needs to improve on. Right now the biggest win for a young guy is MJF over Cody and that really got negated since he’s under Cody on the totem pole right now. They got to make current stars because these Ls will matter and it only takes a little while for fans to start giving a wrestler the choker label {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} For me as well it may have all come down to timing. Inner Circle's losing a lot, I think Jericho may have needed the win for the group standpoint. Hager lose and got suspended, PNP lost to Private Party, Guevara's suspended obviously but if the match would have stayed the same he would have lost to Hardy and Priavte Party possibly. I think Jericho needed the win to show he's still one of the top guys here while Orange went toe to toe with him and only lost to Jericho's best
I think you can build on this for both dudes, you can even have a rematch down the line where Cassidy wins. For now I'm cool with it, let's see where they go. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} He will be teaming with Best Friends and doing nothing of consequence for a while
Archer and Lee are still trying to find their footing again after losing big matches
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Post by Convoy on Jul 3, 2020 16:58:21 GMT -5
So did WWE get someone to spill the beans after their own talent leaked their main event finish for next week?
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Post by 4TheGlory on Jul 3, 2020 17:20:41 GMT -5
So did WWE get someone to spill the beans after their own talent leaked their main event finish for next week? First thought that popped into my mind. Very coincidental timing
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Post by Fake Jesus on Jul 3, 2020 17:23:54 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} For me as well it may have all come down to timing. Inner Circle's losing a lot, I think Jericho may have needed the win for the group standpoint. Hager lose and got suspended, PNP lost to Private Party, Guevara's suspended obviously but if the match would have stayed the same he would have lost to Hardy and Priavte Party possibly. I think Jericho needed the win to show he's still one of the top guys here while Orange went toe to toe with him and only lost to Jericho's best
I think you can build on this for both dudes, you can even have a rematch down the line where Cassidy wins. For now I'm cool with it, let's see where they go. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} He will be teaming with Best Friends and doing nothing of consequence for a while
Archer and Lee are still trying to find their footing again after losing big matches {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} I dunno. The Archer and Lee matches were obviously rushed, so I'm willing to give AEW the benefit of the doubt that OC will at least be doing something. They've generally shown an ability to follow-up on major losses when they have time to plan stuff out, and I doubt they want to cool OC off majorly on the road to All Out.
We'll see though.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 17:28:01 GMT -5
That result doesn’t surprise or bother me.
It’s not like it’s Cody making Darby look like he can’t win a big match.
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Post by slaughterama on Jul 3, 2020 17:30:52 GMT -5
So did WWE get someone to spill the beans after their own talent leaked their main event finish for next week? I think it's from one of the fans they let in that were sitting in the upper deck. Might even be the same guy that posted the story about none of them being tested.
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Post by kimrey on Jul 3, 2020 17:36:20 GMT -5
I feel like these spoilers are awfully detailed to be just a fan who was there. It’s like move by move in some cases. I can’t imagine remembering all that.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Jul 3, 2020 17:43:19 GMT -5
So did WWE get someone to spill the beans after their own talent leaked their main event finish for next week? First thought that popped into my mind. Very coincidental timing {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Alternate theory: AEW saw people getting hype about the Keith Lee news and leaked this themselves to nudge people that Jericho vs. OC was gonna be a crazy good match. Not sure why'd they wanna leak that OC lost but also I didn't think about this very hard, lol.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 3, 2020 17:47:38 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} For me as well it may have all come down to timing. Inner Circle's losing a lot, I think Jericho may have needed the win for the group standpoint. Hager lose and got suspended, PNP lost to Private Party, Guevara's suspended obviously but if the match would have stayed the same he would have lost to Hardy and Priavte Party possibly. I think Jericho needed the win to show he's still one of the top guys here while Orange went toe to toe with him and only lost to Jericho's best
I think you can build on this for both dudes, you can even have a rematch down the line where Cassidy wins. For now I'm cool with it, let's see where they go. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} He will be teaming with Best Friends and doing nothing of consequence for a while
Archer and Lee are still trying to find their footing again after losing big matches {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} I don't mind where Archer or Brodie are at right now, especially considering both continued to either get good impressive wins or continue a storyline on this show. Their matches felt rushed but AEW was kind of put in an impossible position there, I don't blame them.
If Orange teams with Best Friends I don't see that being an issue, and it might not be doing nothing if we can ever get the Death Triangle angle back up and running. But this is speculation, we'll see what they do.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 3, 2020 18:41:18 GMT -5
So did WWE get someone to spill the beans after their own talent leaked their main event finish for next week? I think it's from one of the fans they let in that were sitting in the upper deck. Might even be the same guy that posted the story about none of them being tested. Since when they been letting fans in ?
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Post by slaughterama on Jul 3, 2020 20:08:09 GMT -5
I think it's from one of the fans they let in that were sitting in the upper deck. Might even be the same guy that posted the story about none of them being tested. Since when they been letting fans in ? There was a small group invited and allowed to bring friends to sit in the upper deck for the tapings.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 3, 2020 21:08:56 GMT -5
Since when they been letting fans in ? There was a small group invited and allowed to bring friends to sit in the upper deck for the tapings. Was that ever confirmed by a legitimate source?
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Post by slaughterama on Jul 3, 2020 21:22:33 GMT -5
There was a small group invited and allowed to bring friends to sit in the upper deck for the tapings. Was that ever confirmed by a legitimate source? Satin was the first guy I saw report it, then The Observer had something on it in their update.
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Post by moxfan1 on Jul 3, 2020 21:32:09 GMT -5
I feel like these spoilers are awfully detailed to be just a fan who was there. It’s like move by move in some cases. I can’t imagine remembering all that. This is same guy on Reddit who spoiled Stadium Stampede match hours before the ppv. He also spoiled Ricky Starks debut and signing. So he clearly works for AEW in some position. My guess is he's some type of crew member.
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Post by moxfan1 on Jul 3, 2020 21:43:51 GMT -5
That result doesn’t surprise or bother me. It’s not like it’s Cody making Darby look like he can’t win a big match. Yep it shouldn't surprise anyone. People don't understand how AEW books. They don't have guys like Darby, Orange Cassidy, Sammy Guevara, Jungle Boy, Wardlow and soon to be Ricky Starks. Won't actually beat top guys. Until they are ready to put them at that level full time. Since it doesn't do anything for the guy. To get one big win if he's not going to stay at that level. So when one of those guys faces Moxley, Jericho, Omega, Cody, Page, Cage, Archer, Lee or Pac. Well it's a given right now that they will lose. So if anyone thinks Darby is beating Brian Cage once they wrestle. Well you are going to be super disappointed. For Darby it's getting him in big match on big ppv with someone like Cage. Darby hanging with him and almost beating him a few times but losing. Will do enough for his slow build up. Honestly only guy who might move up to top level of guys in 2020 is Wardlow. With earliest Darby or Sammy might get to that level is probably sometime in 2021 at this point. I'm not sure if Orange Cassidy will ever get past his level he's currently in. Him even in feuds and big matches with Pac and Jericho is enough for his character. His character is very limited on how much you can push him.
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Post by slaughterama on Jul 3, 2020 23:35:32 GMT -5
I feel like these spoilers are awfully detailed to be just a fan who was there. It’s like move by move in some cases. I can’t imagine remembering all that. This is same guy on Reddit who spoiled Stadium Stampede match hours before the ppv. He also spoiled Ricky Starks debut and signing. So he clearly works for AEW in some position. My guess is he's some type of crew member. Yep. He had a post a few weeks ago on how they were letting fans into the building that night, so he has to be someone that's working there.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 4, 2020 0:37:27 GMT -5
This is same guy on Reddit who spoiled Stadium Stampede match hours before the ppv. He also spoiled Ricky Starks debut and signing. So he clearly works for AEW in some position. My guess is he's some type of crew member. Yep. He had a post a few weeks ago on how they were letting fans into the building that night, so he has to be someone that's working there. Shocked they haven't investigated this considering it could only be a select number of people.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 4, 2020 2:39:36 GMT -5
Yep. He had a post a few weeks ago on how they were letting fans into the building that night, so he has to be someone that's working there. Shocked they haven't investigated this considering it could only be a select number of people. I could see them tolerating it because they obviously are more amiable to Meltzer, Alvarez, and other newz types than WWE is. Someone's going to talk to them, so reprisals are probably not going to accomplish anything.
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