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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 4, 2020 15:34:02 GMT -5
I mean nothing surprises me with this company... so I'm not saying it didn't happen.
but at the time period discuss wasn't Michael Hayes in an interracial relationship?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 4, 2020 15:44:45 GMT -5
I mean nothing surprises me with this company... so I'm not saying it didn't happen. but at the time period discuss wasn't Michael Hayes in an interracial relationship? If he was, this still could have happened. Strom Thurmond had an interracial relationship when he was young and he went on to become one of America's most ardent segregationists. People are complicated.
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Post by Perd on Jul 4, 2020 16:03:42 GMT -5
Wouldn’t doubt it ay all.
Like, let’s face it, pro wrestling is skeevy. Maybe you can think she just misunderstood what they meant. Maybe they just wanted her, single, period. And race had nothing to do with it. But that just means “Hey, let’s make sure the hot girl is single, and give the boys in the back a better shot.” That’s not all that much better. But I firmly believe that thought process went into their hiring practices, at that time.
In short, WWE is gross.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 4, 2020 16:11:50 GMT -5
I mean nothing surprises me with this company... so I'm not saying it didn't happen. but at the time period discuss wasn't Michael Hayes in an interracial relationship? Lots of people see a big difference in interracial relationships between black man/white woman and white man/black woman. Look at the Strom Thurmond example in the post under yours.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 4, 2020 16:12:58 GMT -5
Wouldn’t doubt it ay all. Like, let’s face it, pro wrestling is skeevy. Maybe you can think she just misunderstood what they meant. Maybe they just wanted her, single, period. And race had nothing to do with it. But that just means “Hey, let’s make sure the hot girl is single, and give the boys in the back a better shot.” That’s not all that much better. But I firmly believe that thought process went into their hiring practices, at that time. In short, WWE is gross. That was supposed to be a major reason behind the diva searches if rumors at the time were true. Hire a bunch of hot women to keep the boys away from the rats.
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Post by Sicho100 on Jul 4, 2020 16:27:30 GMT -5
As some who was around 20 years ago...I don’t understand this. I know the culture really only recently took a major shift, but inter-racial relationships weren’t THAT huge of a deal in the late 90’s/early 00’s. No way. 80s? Yes, I believe it. Not for the time frame indicated. I mean, interracial marriage only reached majority approval in the mid-90s. When this apparently happened, it still only had about 2/3 of the US supporting it.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Jul 4, 2020 16:40:17 GMT -5
As some who was around 20 years ago...I don’t understand this. I know the culture really only recently took a major shift, but inter-racial relationships weren’t THAT huge of a deal in the late 90’s/early 00’s. No way. 80s? Yes, I believe it. Not for the time frame indicated. I'd see it as, it's very of the time for the childhoods of the people making the decisions. Some people really never change their values as they age...
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 4, 2020 16:46:04 GMT -5
As some who was around 20 years ago...I don’t understand this. I know the culture really only recently took a major shift, but inter-racial relationships weren’t THAT huge of a deal in the late 90’s/early 00’s. No way. 80s? Yes, I believe it. Not for the time frame indicated. I'd see it as, it's very of the time for the childhoods of the people making the decisions. Some people really never change their values as they age... Or if they do, it narrows in the other direction. Most people don't get MORE progressive/social-activist in their old age.
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Post by crowley1986 on Jul 4, 2020 16:52:13 GMT -5
Wouldn’t doubt it ay all. Like, let’s face it, pro wrestling is skeevy. Maybe you can think she just misunderstood what they meant. Maybe they just wanted her, single, period. And race had nothing to do with it. But that just means “Hey, let’s make sure the hot girl is single, and give the boys in the back a better shot.” That’s not all that much better. But I firmly believe that thought process went into their hiring practices, at that time. In short, WWE is gross. dont most managers of bands/movie stars say to remain single or downplay being in a relationship as it might "affect" sales in particular boy bands
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 17:06:27 GMT -5
As some who was around 20 years ago...I don’t understand this. I know the culture really only recently took a major shift, but inter-racial relationships weren’t THAT huge of a deal in the late 90’s/early 00’s. No way. 80s? Yes, I believe it. Not for the time frame indicated. pfft. I had to give up the role of Romeo in the school play in 2003 because Juliet was black and my family informed me that my Grandparents would burn the school down if that happened.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 4, 2020 17:17:50 GMT -5
As some who was around 20 years ago...I don’t understand this. I know the culture really only recently took a major shift, but inter-racial relationships weren’t THAT huge of a deal in the late 90’s/early 00’s. No way. 80s? Yes, I believe it. Not for the time frame indicated. pfft. I had to give up the role of Romeo in the school play in 2003 because Juliet was black and my family informed me that my Grandparents would burn the school down if that happened. What if yall had gone authentic with it and Juliet was a guy. :)
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jul 4, 2020 18:20:56 GMT -5
Well, something changed. Ember Moon got hired and she’s married to a white guy.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 4, 2020 18:24:35 GMT -5
you know what, I'm not going to waste my great "too swiss" graphic's debut on this horrible thread. as far as I can tell, we're not talking about "TV Relationships", we're talking about a wrestler being denied employment for their real-life relationship, right? So any "oh you didn't see it on TV much" is a dead-end deflection that doesn't soften the bigotry of this. Again, we don't have proof, but again, lots of people would not be surprised if it's true, which is also pretty damning. In case this is referring to me, I wasn't clear enough - this is 100% bigotry, no qualifiers.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 4, 2020 18:37:36 GMT -5
Well, something changed. Ember Moon got hired and she’s married to a white guy. As mentioned earlier, an IR relationship between a white man and a black woman is seen very differently to an IR relationship between a black man and a white woman.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 4, 2020 20:18:35 GMT -5
to the two that responded to me... like I said I don't have trouble believing this.
Or something similar was said.
Just pointing out it'd be kinda hypocritical if it came from any higher ups with Hayes and his wife at the time....
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jul 4, 2020 20:24:32 GMT -5
to the two that responded to me... like I said I don't have trouble believing this. Or something similar was said. Just pointing out it'd be kinda hypocritical if it came from any higher ups with Hayes and his wife at the time.... Was Terry Taylor back in the fold circa 2001/2002? He's apparently super racist.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 4, 2020 20:33:44 GMT -5
to the two that responded to me... like I said I don't have trouble believing this. Or something similar was said. Just pointing out it'd be kinda hypocritical if it came from any higher ups with Hayes and his wife at the time.... Was Terry Taylor back in the fold circa 2001/2002? He's apparently super racist. september 2002 until July of 2003.
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jul 4, 2020 20:38:31 GMT -5
you know what, I'm not going to waste my great "too swiss" graphic's debut on this horrible thread. as far as I can tell, we're not talking about "TV Relationships", we're talking about a wrestler being denied employment for their real-life relationship, right? So any "oh you didn't see it on TV much" is a dead-end deflection that doesn't soften the bigotry of this. Again, we don't have proof, but again, lots of people would not be surprised if it's true, which is also pretty damning. In case this is referring to me, I wasn't clear enough - this is 100% bigotry, no qualifiers. Na, no worries, sorry -- it seemed like several people were discussing whether interracial dating was "taboo" on TV around this time (which is legit up for debate about whether that would have stuck in TV producers' craws or not at that time). I was saying that debate didn't appear to be on-topic, wasn't trying to shame anyone, if I was grouchy in my post it was because I was annoyed at myself for first posting a "too swiss" joke then decided it wasn't the place for a stupid internet joke (which is a pretty high bar for me
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jul 4, 2020 21:19:34 GMT -5
Wouldn’t doubt it ay all. Like, let’s face it, pro wrestling is skeevy. Maybe you can think she just misunderstood what they meant. Maybe they just wanted her, single, period. And race had nothing to do with it. But that just means “Hey, let’s make sure the hot girl is single, and give the boys in the back a better shot.” That’s not all that much better. But I firmly believe that thought process went into their hiring practices, at that time. In short, WWE is gross. That was supposed to be a major reason behind the diva searches if rumors at the time were true. Hire a bunch of hot women to keep the boys away from the rats.
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Post by fw91 on Jul 4, 2020 23:48:15 GMT -5
"Sexual Chocolate" Mark Henry dated a lot of white women. Even produced a Hand with southern belle Mae Young.
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