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Post by HMARK Center on Jul 6, 2020 5:25:53 GMT -5
Weren’t they already promoting an interracial relationship by then with Eddie and Chyna? Even before that... Mark Henry and Mae Young. I wouldn't really put that in the category of "promoting" something...at least not anything positive.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 6, 2020 6:06:03 GMT -5
Wasn't the Mark Henry: Sex Guy angle done to try and force him to quit because they didn't want to honour the big contract they signed him to?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 6, 2020 6:15:59 GMT -5
Wasn't the Mark Henry: Sex Guy angle done to try and force him to quit because they didn't want to honour the big contract they signed him to? I think he was making 250k a year guaranteed when that was way more than most of them made, yeah. I don't know if anyone has ever confirmed it or if Mark has weighed in on if he believes it, but credit to him, he also seemed to try to be a team player and didn't half-ass it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 6, 2020 6:20:51 GMT -5
Those were rumors at the time. They wanted to hire a bunch of hot women using the diva searches so that all the new young, often unmarried, wrestlers would have attractive women to hook up with. This would keep them away from the rats and any unpleasantness could be kept in house. Not that I'm surprised, but I'm just amazed by the idea of, "Oh, okay, we'll just have all our employees f***ing each other and that'll keep away any unpleasant drama!" Given what happened to Ashley Massaro and Shelly Martinez, they were allegedly able to keep stuff on the hush for a long time. Spoiled for those who do not want to read it, but it's pretty terrible. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Ashley was raped by a soldier on a USO show and was pressured to not force the issue to not endanger WWE's relationship with the armed forces.
Shelly Martinez was sexually assaulted by Umaga.
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Post by héad.casé on Jul 6, 2020 6:30:16 GMT -5
Wouldn’t doubt it ay all. Like, let’s face it, pro wrestling is skeevy. Maybe you can think she just misunderstood what they meant. Maybe they just wanted her, single, period. And race had nothing to do with it. But that just means “Hey, let’s make sure the hot girl is single, and give the boys in the back a better shot.” That’s not all that much better. But I firmly believe that thought process went into their hiring practices, at that time. In short, WWE is gross. dont most managers of bands/movie stars say to remain single or downplay being in a relationship as it might "affect" sales in particular boy bands It wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case. Alexa Bliss has just gone public with her relationship with Ryan Cabrera and the replies to her photos on Instagram and tweets are horrible compared to before when she was just posting pics of herself.
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Post by eJm on Jul 6, 2020 8:25:30 GMT -5
Even before that... Mark Henry and Mae Young. I wouldn't really put that in the category of "promoting" something...at least not anything positive. It's sort of like going "Yeah, WWE's done storylines involving gay people! Look at Billy & Chuck!"
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Post by mrpeacock on Jul 6, 2020 8:33:30 GMT -5
I mean maybe it was less about race and more about this kinda stuff happening
Wallingford, CT On the night of December 12, pro wrestler "Slyck" Wagner Brown, was arrested for assault and battery upon ex-girlfriend pro- wrestler/model April Hunter. She was beaten, suffered a fractured hand, multiple bruises and contusions. Wagner Brown is being held on bond pending a possible attempted murder charge since he held her at knife point. The report says she'd managed to dial 911 on her cellular phone which she had hidden, then threw the phone behind a couch. The entire situation was recorded by 911. More details will follow when they become available.
Gerweck.net received this report earlier on Tuesday, but was unable to confirm it independently. However, I received a simple reply from Hunter herself on Tuesday afternoon stating "yeah, unfortunatly" when asked about the story.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 6, 2020 9:34:48 GMT -5
Didn't that happen in 2005, years after the time frame this is speculated to have happened? Unless they had a crystal ball at her tryout, or he mistreated her during his own tryouts there, his being a POS probably wasn't a factor as it wasn't common knowledge.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 6, 2020 11:31:08 GMT -5
Without seeing the actual email it's hard to really know, but it would be mega stupid to put something like that in print in the event of legal action. As in it doesn't shock me if someone in WWE felt that way, but just that they would put it in writing.
As far as the wanting stars to appear single and ready to mingle, this is something I wondered about with the Seth Rollins/Becky Lynch stuff last year. I found it curious that WWE would do that as a storyline because in theory you'd want your top guy and top girl to seem available. Isn't that one reason they never quite put Cena in that type of storyline?
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Post by doinkmark on Jul 7, 2020 4:18:10 GMT -5
WWE usually asks people to relocate when they post ads for writers, Tough Enough contestants, etc. So "you should get your affairs in order before you move", including breaking up with a bf back home no matter his race, is plausible.
Talent relations people have also told smaller wrestlers to "get bigger" back in the day. Code for taking steroida.
So, depending on the timeline, anything's possible, but I'd lean more toward a coded message rather than blatant racism, if anything.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jul 7, 2020 5:41:35 GMT -5
Not that I'm surprised, but I'm just amazed by the idea of, "Oh, okay, we'll just have all our employees f***ing each other and that'll keep away any unpleasant drama!" Given what happened to Ashley Massaro and Shelly Martinez, they were allegedly able to keep stuff on the hush for a long time. Spoiled for those who do not want to read it, but it's pretty terrible. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Ashley was raped by a soldier on a USO show and was pressured to not force the issue to not endanger WWE's relationship with the armed forces.
Shelly Martinez was sexually assaulted by Umaga. {Spoiler}For Ashley, it might not be all on WWE. There's the real possibility that they were pressured by the military. There are massive issues in WWE, there are also massive (to put it lightly) issues in the military when it comes to sexual abuse, and how they cover everything up. dont most managers of bands/movie stars say to remain single or downplay being in a relationship as it might "affect" sales in particular boy bands It wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case. Alexa Bliss has just gone public with her relationship with Ryan Cabrera and the replies to her photos on Instagram and tweets are horrible compared to before when she was just posting pics of herself. Yeah, fans can be downright horrible, when their "waifu" or dream person is dating somebody. Look at the shit that Renee gets for being married to Moxley.
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Post by salz4life on Jul 7, 2020 10:11:54 GMT -5
Well, something changed. Ember Moon got hired and she’s married to a white guy. As mentioned earlier, an IR relationship between a white man and a black woman is seen very differently to an IR relationship between a black man and a white woman. Isn't Rhea Ripley dating (?) a black man?
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jul 7, 2020 10:49:27 GMT -5
As mentioned earlier, an IR relationship between a white man and a black woman is seen very differently to an IR relationship between a black man and a white woman. Isn't Rhea Ripley dating (?) a black man? Yes, but I don't think that has anything to do with the validity of April's story. Different people are in charge when it comes to hiring, times have changed, etc.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jul 7, 2020 11:31:54 GMT -5
Didn't that happen in 2005, years after the time frame this is speculated to have happened? Unless they had a crystal ball at her tryout, or he mistreated her during his own tryouts there, his being a POS probably wasn't a factor as it wasn't common knowledge. He was heavily involved with Killer Kowalski's school, so there may have been private knowledge of his behavior. This incident was the big public blow-up but there was more
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 7, 2020 12:04:39 GMT -5
Didn't that happen in 2005, years after the time frame this is speculated to have happened? Unless they had a crystal ball at her tryout, or he mistreated her during his own tryouts there, his being a POS probably wasn't a factor as it wasn't common knowledge. He was heavily involved with Killer Kowalski's school, so there may have been private knowledge of his behavior. This incident was the big public blow-up but there was more He worked dark matches and a TV match for the WWE prior to that, so if they knew back in 2001-2, which is a big if, they didn't care enough to stop giving him a look every couple of years until it made the news.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Jul 7, 2020 12:21:06 GMT -5
He was heavily involved with Killer Kowalski's school, so there may have been private knowledge of his behavior. This incident was the big public blow-up but there was more He worked dark matches and a TV match for the WWE prior to that, so if they knew back in 2001-2, which is a big if, they didn't care enough to stop giving him a look every couple of years until it made the news. There's a 2-3 year gap in the timeline there. We just need to see this email because I feel dirty even trying to provide an alternative explanation
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Post by 111111 on Jul 8, 2020 10:02:27 GMT -5
I don’t see any benefit of the doubt to be given to WWE here.
I mean it’s unfortunately not really far fetched that at least one old man in a position of power in the year 2002 would not only have but voice this thought.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jul 8, 2020 10:06:15 GMT -5
Well it always seemed rumor4d that April didn't get a shot due to her association with Slyk Wagner Brown but I don't think it had anything to do with them dating
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Jul 9, 2020 1:05:04 GMT -5
What's the other side of this tale?
The company turned a blind eye to the extra-curricular debauchery by the talent (drugs, booze, partying, sleeping around) for the longest time, but THIS was the reason for denying employment???
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Post by Muskrat on Jul 9, 2020 6:26:19 GMT -5
What's the other side of this tale? The company turned a blind eye to the extra-curricular debauchery by the talent (drugs, booze, partying, sleeping around) for the longest time, but THIS was the reason for denying employment??? Wait, why is sleeping around being lumped in with drugs and booze? If I’m a grown adult, how is f***ing other consenting adults on the same level as crushing JD and snorting rails?
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