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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 13, 2020 16:24:50 GMT -5
Miz is one of the best lifers they'll ever have.
He legit sees hopping brands and having his heat killed as fun challenges to get better and get over again, and he does just keep getting better, which is genuinely ludicrous.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 14, 2020 13:04:20 GMT -5
The problem with a lot of what happens with Miz's face runs and even his actual WWE title run was... they keep putting him in positions he should never be in...
they try to force him into this badass role... that he is completely not fit for.
As the heel he should be sneaky and underhanded, as a face he can be the face with a lot of heart...
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Post by King Devitt on Jul 15, 2020 1:51:21 GMT -5
I hate that WWE creative is so shitty at their jobs they make the talent wonder what they're doing wrong.
Bayley did the same thing when she said she wasn't as over as she thought she was. And it wasn't her fault then either.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 15, 2020 9:30:07 GMT -5
Miz is the only guy I would have loved to see run out of WWE by Bradshaw. He's got a Barry Horowitz, 1990s jobber look to him and an indy wannabe 1999 Y2J mic skills. When I see him on commercials for that double dare type of show on USA I just question "HOW (did he make it?"). Sorry guys, but I just don't get it. I've been to enough indy shows to know that's where he belongs. And I'm sure Bradshaw goes back on his original beliefs because Miz is a WWE tenured employee at this time. He just seems like someone signed while Vince wasn't watching and by time he found out it was too late.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 15:30:34 GMT -5
Miz is the only guy I would have loved to see run out of WWE by Bradshaw. He's got a Barry Horowitz, 1990s jobber look to him and an indy wannabe 1999 Y2J mic skills. When I see him on commercials for that double dare type of show on USA I just question "HOW (did he make it?"). Sorry guys, but I just don't get it. I've been to enough indy shows to know that's where he belongs. And I'm sure Bradshaw goes back on his original beliefs because Miz is a WWE tenured employee at this time. He just seems like someone signed while Vince wasn't watching and by time he found out it was too late. i.imgur.com/1cHB610.gifvHow is this not embedding?
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 15, 2020 15:37:20 GMT -5
That IC run on Smackdown and Talking Smack promo against Bryan ("This is my show! My show!" really did at the time feel like him being close to a world title run again.
And it didn't happen then, and while he has continued to get himself over, that felt like the biggest missed boat in retrospect. I really didn't think any of the Shane feud whatsoever helped him out, for one.
Really great quotes as, while talking things out loud, it's like Miz is figuring some parts out.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 15, 2020 15:43:35 GMT -5
Miz is the only guy I would have loved to see run out of WWE by Bradshaw. He's got a Barry Horowitz, 1990s jobber look to him and an indy wannabe 1999 Y2J mic skills. When I see him on commercials for that double dare type of show on USA I just question "HOW (did he make it?"). Sorry guys, but I just don't get it. I've been to enough indy shows to know that's where he belongs. And I'm sure Bradshaw goes back on his original beliefs because Miz is a WWE tenured employee at this time. He just seems like someone signed while Vince wasn't watching and by time he found out it was too late. The range between "I'm not a fan" and "he should have been harassed and bullied out of WWE" is so huge that this post is kind of noxious and horrible. What do you get from being that hyperbolicly cruel?
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Post by eJm on Jul 15, 2020 15:46:24 GMT -5
That IC run on Smackdown and Talking Smack promo against Bryan ("This is my show! My show!" really did at the time feel like him being close to a world title run again. And it didn't happen then, and while he has continued to get himself over, that felt like the biggest missed boat in retrospect. I really didn't think any of the Shane feud whatsoever helped him out, for one. Really great quotes as, while talking things out loud, it's like Miz is figuring some parts out. I actually still think the Falls Count Anywhere match was a good set up to an endpoint where Miz killed the asshole later on. He beat the ever-loving crap out of Shane and the risk pretty much gave Shane a fluke win. So the next time, in a less crazy scenario, Shane would get his. And then the cage match happened.
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Post by MrElijah on Jul 15, 2020 16:22:33 GMT -5
I still think it’s a real shame Miz wasn’t WWE champ around 2016/2017. Considering who WWE made Champion for most of 2017 yes it is. Miz could have so easily slotted into Jinder’s position. Miz should've won the 2017 Rumble, beat Styles in a Title for Title match at WM33, then have everyone on SDL chase him and he cheats his ass off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2020 18:01:44 GMT -5
He is completely right. Face Miz sucks. And I am not sure he's completely to blame for it. His entire last face run was "I have Daddy issues!" He's definitely not to blame for the last failed turn. He cut an awesome face promo on Shane and how'd they follow it up? By having him job to Shane repeatedly and even having him tap out to Shane's triangle choke!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 15, 2020 20:54:23 GMT -5
.gifv files won't embed. Just remove the v and it'll embed fine.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 16, 2020 8:50:23 GMT -5
The range between "I'm not a fan" and "he should have been harassed and bullied out of WWE" is so huge that this post is kind of noxious and horrible. What do you get from being that hyperbolicly cruel? Obviously WWE had no problem with the way Bradshaw acts as he's been employed for close to 25 years and his acts have always gone unpunished but given that, I disdain what he does and I should have gone to a more middle ground. I wouldn't want Miz soaped or brought to wrestler's court or sucker punched in the head or forced to damage someone else's car but definitely put in a position where he is made aware of his shortcomings and decides to take his talents to a more appropriate place, like the independent circuit. I am all about the future IF the future is based on skill and talent appropriate to the position. I don't like Ambrose or Rollins or R Truth or many other WWE "talents" of this generation but I can also agree that they have a certain level of talent to have become famous during this time period. If people are complaining about Drew Carey or Kid Rock being in the hall of fame, they should complain when Miz, a reality TV so called "star" enters the hall.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 16, 2020 12:12:07 GMT -5
The range between "I'm not a fan" and "he should have been harassed and bullied out of WWE" is so huge that this post is kind of noxious and horrible. What do you get from being that hyperbolicly cruel? Obviously WWE had no problem with the way Bradshaw acts as he's been employed for close to 25 years and his acts have always gone unpunished but given that, I disdain what he does and I should have gone to a more middle ground. I wouldn't want Miz soaped or brought to wrestler's court or sucker punched in the head or forced to damage someone else's car but definitely put in a position where he is made aware of his shortcomings and decides to take his talents to a more appropriate place, like the independent circuit. I am all about the future IF the future is based on skill and talent appropriate to the position. I don't like Ambrose or Rollins or R Truth or many other WWE "talents" of this generation but I can also agree that they have a certain level of talent to have become famous during this time period. If people are complaining about Drew Carey or Kid Rock being in the hall of fame, they should complain when Miz, a reality TV so called "star" enters the hall. Wow I don't really have anything specifically meant to respond to these ideas I just want to say that it's pretty phenomenal how the words 'hyperbolically cruel' didn't shake even a smidgen of realization out of you that this was mean-spirited and horrible. That's impressive.
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Post by Moppy on Jul 16, 2020 12:20:00 GMT -5
Miz was made aware of his shortcomings, repeatedly and to his face, if he's to be believed. Probably still is.
He's still been WWE Champion and closed Wrestlemania, so those people can suck eggs. Go Miz.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Jul 16, 2020 12:49:41 GMT -5
Miz was made aware of his shortcomings, repeatedly and to his face, if he's to be believed. Probably still is. He's still been WWE Champion and closed Wrestlemania, so those people can suck eggs. Go Miz. Yeah I'm not sure where the idea comes from that Miz wasn't bullied and given ample amounts of grief by the likes of Bradshaw and Benoit. He went through all that garbage, worked harder through all the shit they put him through, and become a locker room leader who didn't put up with any of that shit himself. He's a success story who avoided become an abusive dickbag and worked to change the backstage climate for the better. He should be respected for that, not whatever the hell that is.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 16, 2020 14:21:43 GMT -5
Wow I don't really have anything specifically meant to respond to these ideas I just want to say that it's pretty phenomenal how the words 'hyperbolically cruel' didn't shake even a smidgen of realization out of you that this was mean-spirited and horrible. That's impressive. I didn't wish cruelty on him and actually I would have rather Bradshaw been released in 1996 or 1997 when he wasn't proving himself to be very talented. I think it's horrible what he did to Edge, Brian Christopher, Hardy Boyz, Jackyl, Blue Meanie, Mauro R. and many more who we may not have even heard about. I personally think he should have been fired for any of his actions and arrested for assault of Blue Meanie or even sexual assault of Edge or Brian and fired for harassment of Mauro. There's ribbing and there's criminal actions. I suppose there's no wishing Bradshaw sending him packing without Bradshaw doing criminal actions so I am wrong in my thought process. If for some reason Bradshaw had not been borderline criminal or evil in his actions or words towards people, then I would prefer him attempt to send Miz to the independents. Sorry but I just don't "get" him. I hear "AWESOME" and I'm turning the channel. Good for him for proving himself to the audience but when I just don't see a difference between him and many young guys on the indy circuit hoping for their big break. My thought process is very much like Booker T. when James Ellsworth was brought on the roster and Booker was frustrated his students would never get that chance.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 16, 2020 15:30:24 GMT -5
Miz was made aware of his shortcomings, repeatedly and to his face, if he's to be believed. Probably still is. Anybody who says they can't see any difference between the performer Miz was in 2006 and the performer he's become today is either lying or just not paying attention. I don't think anybody's claiming he's ever been an elite in-ring talent, but he's not a bad worker and - more importantly - consistently gets himself and whoever he's working with over.
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Post by saneiac on Jul 16, 2020 19:14:46 GMT -5
He's definitely not to blame for the last failed turn. He cut an awesome face promo on Shane and how'd they follow it up? By having him job to Shane repeatedly and even having him tap out to Shane's triangle choke! I was so ready for a great Miz face run on his most recent one, thinking they couldn't possibly screw up his character as badly as they did on the first try. They actually made it worse, getting outsmarted by Shane week after week and losing endlessly. Heel Miz is intelligent and cunning. I don't get why face Miz is always turned into such an idiot.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jul 17, 2020 9:46:22 GMT -5
The range between "I'm not a fan" and "he should have been harassed and bullied out of WWE" is so huge that this post is kind of noxious and horrible. What do you get from being that hyperbolicly cruel? If people are complaining about Drew Carey or Kid Rock being in the hall of fame, they should complain when Miz, a reality TV so called "star" enters the hall. I've been on this board for about 15 years and this is the most baffling, ridiculous comparison I have ever seen. Congratulations are in order.
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Post by warden on Jul 17, 2020 10:12:31 GMT -5
I like the miz, he's come a long way from being that guy who fumbled his words on the diva search and his IC reign was great. That being said, dude does not have the chops to be a long lasting face. He is a natural heel. He has a punchable face, he oozes annoyance, he has a big mansion, he has a hot ass wife, his own tv show, just listing all that stuff makes me hate him more... Yea face miz just stinks after a month, it's ok to be the scorpion Miz. Why fight your nature
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