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Post by thechase on Aug 2, 2020 9:52:28 GMT -5
They got Shatner for Futurama and it was one of their best ever episodes. He even made light of his directing ego. James Doohan famously refused to participate in the episode if it meant working with Shatner.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 2, 2020 11:27:35 GMT -5
They got Shatner for Futurama and it was one of their best ever episodes. He even made light of his directing ego. James Doohan famously refused to participate in the episode if it meant working with Shatner. Shatner's so easy to like, but, if anything, easier to hate. I do miss his Twitter "feuds" with Carrie Fisher. Pretty much the only reason I used to follow him was to see how they would try to out-insult each other.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 11:36:00 GMT -5
Much as I think Shatner's an ass, I don't see anybody but RLM's fanbase caring, and they (or, at least, a portion of them) seem to be the root of all the problems in that mess. Yup, I love me some RLM, but it's basically fans defending RLM to Bill getting pissed off about it. Shame for Mike, as the dude loves Star Trek. Mike has been beaten up enough by Star Trek. Last thing he needed was a spat with Shatner.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 2, 2020 12:00:03 GMT -5
Keiji Inafune has to be one of the most prominent video game figures to fall into this category.
Following his departure from Capcom (itself in the midst of one of its lesser periods), in 2013 the guy for all intents and purposes was a beloved underdog game designer whose presentation for Mighty No 9 was instantly supported by the internet worldwide. Its not hard to recall the general viral popularity he had by many fans whom viewed him as the father of Mega Man, screwed over by Capcom's combination of ineptitude/greed and was finally getting a chance to create a new franchise that could fill the gap left by the Blue Bomber's franchise being forgotten by his parent company. The success of Mighty No 9's funding itself was offered as example of how crowdfunding was helping to fix a lot of the problems the mainstream gaming industry had fallen into.
And in just three years that goodwill, the wide eyed optimism about Kickstarter, and the narrative about Inafune largely disappeared.
While delays about the game most certainly played a significant role, one of the biggest problems was that Inafune's attempts a creating multi-media franchises about both Mighty No 9 & Red Ash via additional crowdfunding eventually shifted the view about him from visionary game designer to shameless entrepreneur. Internal problems within its development including controversy over the community manager muddled things further. The little game that could very quickly became the 4 million dollar project that couldn't, and the inevitable problems of both feature creep and trying to develop for multiple platforms added up to create a slow train wreck that had the fanbase slowly losing enthusiasm the longer the game took and how it was moving further away from the art design that made it so initially appealing.
Mighty No 9 would eventually come out to middling reviews and flat fanfare, memorable largely for its awful marketing and disparaging memes. Nowadays Beck has largely lived on through Inti Creates putting him in other titles, including Mighty Gunvolt Burst which many would claim is far closer to what MN9 should have been. Capcom would come out of its own dark age, kicking of a renaissance for its various franchises including bringing back Mega Man himself in MM11 to a generally warm reception.
As for Inafune. He has almost completely disappeared from public eye, now largely seen as a cautionary tale of what unbridled ambition and excess confidence can do without careful planning and awareness of one's limitations. Ironically for someone many claim was falsely attributed for being the father of Mega Man has now himself been falsely quoted for a statement made by someone else that nonetheless sums up the eventual quality of the Mighty No 9 effort: "It's better than nothing."
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 2, 2020 12:35:14 GMT -5
Wrestlers are mostly too obvious if you're thinking of the ones who murdered, committed a major crime, was on the sex offender outing list of last month, etc.
I will say a lot of former smark favorites can be like that when they run their course or when the WWE or whoever's decides they're popular. At one point, the IWC loved Hardcore Holly, for instance @
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Post by agent817 on Aug 2, 2020 12:41:59 GMT -5
Matthew McConaughey - from typecast pretty boy to serious Oscar winning actor. Weird that I saw him that way at first and then later on I started to respect him more.
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Post by Greer on Aug 2, 2020 13:28:04 GMT -5
"Just signed the entire Indy roster. Soooooo...do you guys like me now?"
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 2, 2020 20:14:52 GMT -5
Curt schilling. He was loved for helping the Boston baseball club win a world championship. Then he was not so loved for making controversial comments on social media.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2020 20:42:23 GMT -5
Anyone in a Quentin Tarantino movie, it seems.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 3, 2020 7:48:24 GMT -5
Curt schilling. He was loved for helping the Boston baseball club win a world championship. Then he was not so loved for making controversial comments on social media. or, y'know, almost bankrupting Rhode Island.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 8:02:44 GMT -5
They got Shatner for Futurama and it was one of their best ever episodes. He even made light of his directing ego. James Doohan famously refused to participate in the episode if it meant working with Shatner. I've always been mystified at that story about Doohan angrily refusing to do the show. I saw him at a convention about a year before that episode aired, and he was in terrible condition. Imagining that person even yelling "NO" into a phone (as David X. Cohen has told it) is tough.
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Post by madness50 on Aug 3, 2020 15:30:51 GMT -5
Anyone in a Quentin Tarantino movie, it seems. What happened now?
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Aug 3, 2020 16:55:36 GMT -5
Much as I think Shatner's an ass, I don't see anybody but RLM's fanbase caring, and they (or, at least, a portion of them) seem to be the root of all the problems in that mess. Yup, I love me some RLM, but it's basically fans defending RLM to Bill getting pissed off about it. Shame for Mike, as the dude loves Star Trek. This is for years of making fun of Rich Evans. Rich Evans always has the last laugh.
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Post by Greer on Aug 3, 2020 18:57:37 GMT -5
Yup, I love me some RLM, but it's basically fans defending RLM to Bill getting pissed off about it. Shame for Mike, as the dude loves Star Trek. This is for years of making fun of Rich Evans. Rich Evans always has the last laugh. And what an amazing laugh it is.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 3, 2020 19:03:10 GMT -5
Funny no one has mentioned Shatner yet. From 'serious actor' to 'washed up joke trying to cash in past fame' to 'self-depricating joke' and somehow regained acceptance by acknowledging his past. he is one of several actors that have just basically become parodies of themselves...
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 4, 2020 8:33:45 GMT -5
Nic Cage went from being a critically acclaimed, award winning actor to a hammy punchline to the internet's favorite actor who isn't named Keanu Reeves.
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Post by Viking Hall on Aug 4, 2020 9:52:38 GMT -5
You'll have to forgive the personal anecdote but I saw this happen in real time in person once. Download Festival 2009, for those who don't know, Download is basically the UK's biggest Heavy Metal festival and is related to a long lineage of Metal festivals at Donnington from I think as far back as the early 80's. So yeah, super serious Metal loving crowd and we're stood in there waiting to see Limp Bizkit play at a UK festival for the first time in years. By this point I think they'd been split up for some time, or at the very least, weren't a prominent band by any stretch. The perception was that they were well past it, it was going to be embarrassing, Fred Durst was an idiot and we were all going to have a good laugh. Literally everyone you spoke to was there to see some sort of car crash and the possibility of Fred Durst getting hit with a bottle of piss.
And then Break Stuff hits. The place goes f***ing nuts and all of a sudden all of these cynical twenty and thirty something metal heads are 13 years old again and Limp Bizkit go from the running joke of the weekend to being the must see set of the weekend within one song. It was like nothing I've every experienced before and goes down as the one and only time I crowd surfed in my long and illustrious gig and festival attending career.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 4, 2020 10:30:05 GMT -5
Wrestlers are mostly too obvious if you're thinking of the ones who murdered, committed a major crime, was on the sex offender outing list of last month, etc. I will say a lot of former smark favorites can be like that when they run their course or when the WWE or whoever's decides they're popular. At one point, the IWC loved Hardcore Holly, for instance @ There's kind of a 'Well, what have you done for me lately' attitude with wrestling fans, where people rag on guys they were fans of after retirement, during from the WWE or a concerted burial like Zack Ryder.
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Post by Ganon83 on Aug 4, 2020 13:16:36 GMT -5
I don’t know if it has been said yet but O.J. Simpson.
Try telling somebody in 1986 that in ten year’s time, he’d be the defendent in the trial of the century after being charged of murdering his wife and another person. Hell, even a few months before the murders.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 4, 2020 13:34:44 GMT -5
I don’t know if it has been said yet but O.J. Simpson. Try telling somebody in 1986 that in ten year’s time, he’d be the defendent in the trial of the century after being charged of murdering his wife and another person. Hell, even a few months before the murders. James Cameron considered OJ for The Terminator but decided he came off as too nice.
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