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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2020 7:37:02 GMT -5
Being the better man means letting the asshole win. I'm not going to wish the worst on her but I'm not going to wish her well either. I would think being the better man prevents one from being an asshole, though, or at least perceived to being an asshole. At this point, it all feels like people bragging about being the healthiest leper in the colony.......a nice feeling for a little bit, but guess what.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2020 22:39:03 GMT -5
Good, detailed breakdown on the whole situation. Sort of a weird subject for the Right Opinion, he usually covers Youtube drama, but he does explain at the start that he just felt like doing this.
I'm not finished watching yet but near the end. Don't really agree with how he seems to be coming down on the side of being somewhat sympathetic toward her but at least it's a good compilation of all the info.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 23, 2021 9:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Mar 23, 2021 9:31:25 GMT -5
I guess it's surprising in that it didn't feel like she was after the apology but then I guess the way it was addressed likely soured people and then the format is also hard to hold during a pandemic.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 23, 2021 9:42:17 GMT -5
I guess it's surprising in that it didn't feel like she was after the apology but then I guess the way it was addressed likely soured people and then the format is also hard to hold during a pandemic. The apology was def lacking which probably plays a big factor alongside just the way things are right now
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Mar 23, 2021 12:06:58 GMT -5
Could also be the show has been on for what 8 years. So people are tired of it.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 23, 2021 12:14:01 GMT -5
Could also be the show has been on for what 8 years. So people are tired of it. Nope. I THINK since 2003. (As Ellen took over after Caroline Rhea's show lasted one season in 2002-03). Then again, look at The Simpsons. So yeah, I would hope it's because the curtain has been pulled away.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Mar 23, 2021 12:27:42 GMT -5
Compare with the country singer recently recorded shouting racial slurs. His sales doubled. My guess is the kind of people who were Ellen fans dont care for toxic people and phony aoologies. The kinds that love that sort of thing hate Ellen anyway.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 23, 2021 21:31:37 GMT -5
Compare with the country singer recently recorded shouting racial slurs. His sales doubled. My guess is the kind of people who were Ellen fans dont care for toxic people and phony aoologies. The kinds that love that sort of thing hate Ellen anyway. Someone on my Facebook timeline posted something like "Who'd ever want to be an SJW? They all eat their own sooner or later." No, dumbshit, that's the way it should be. If I act like a piece of shit or enable pieces of shit, I want my peers calling me out on it and holding me to account. Sure beats the alternative of gradually morphing into an asshole and getting praised for it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 21:33:54 GMT -5
Honestly, this never surprised me.
Ellen comes across as one of the most unlikeable people on TV. Most of her "jokes" are at other people's expense and when she doesn't get the reaction she's hoping for, she continues pushing and pushing the joke even if it humiliates the guest.
Never liked her. Not surprised.
Having said that, I don't necessarily agree with this trend of "cancelling people".
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on May 12, 2021 12:39:49 GMT -5
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Post by James Fabiano on May 12, 2021 12:58:09 GMT -5
And though she is hiding the real reasons...what went around, came around, finally.
Go join Rosie in becoming a total bitter old Wizard whom the curtain had been pulled on.
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Post by Push R Truth on May 12, 2021 13:01:40 GMT -5
".. it's just not a challenge anymore"
I guess abusing staff was the challenge she craved?
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Post by eJm on May 12, 2021 13:03:18 GMT -5
It also hasn’t anything to do with ratings going down in light of those allegations which, you know, would harm your image as the personality you put out there.
Like, it’s so transparent, the statement might as well be a window.
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Post by thechase on May 12, 2021 13:05:36 GMT -5
Forgetting Dory
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2021 13:27:21 GMT -5
I'm actually a little interested in the Oprah interview. I wonder if Oprah actually asks her about the abuse and stuff.
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Post by Cyno on May 12, 2021 13:32:53 GMT -5
I'm still annoyed by every celebrity who defended her like "I was a guest on her show and she was always nice to me." Like, do you not understand how bullying actually works? They don't punch up.
Even if she wasn't personally the one being abusive towards staff, she was responsible for employing the people who did and didn't do a damn thing about it even after it came to light. Except for some "goodwill gestures" that came off like they were from a Charles Dickens story.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on May 12, 2021 13:59:27 GMT -5
So I guess they won't be giving it to Eric Andre then...
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Post by eJm on May 12, 2021 14:00:20 GMT -5
So I guess they won't be giving it to Eric Andre then... She ended her show because she’s too much of a coward to do that.
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Post by chrom on May 12, 2021 14:05:55 GMT -5
I'm actually a little interested in the Oprah interview. I wonder if Oprah actually asks her about the abuse and stuff. Knowing Oprah, it'll be nothing but the two fawning over each other and how bold and empowering they are.
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