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Post by thehottag on Jul 30, 2020 17:05:24 GMT -5
I can’t speak for other countries but when WWF was at its peak in the UK in the early 90s, Hogan was damn near a household name and still is. The only other wrestler since to have that status is The Rock. To add to this, I went in a bookies just 2 years ago to see if they were offering prices for Wrestlemania (some do). The 20-something cashier sneered when asked, saying "sorry, we don't take bets on Hulk Hogan". So there you go.
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Post by 4real on Jul 30, 2020 17:58:16 GMT -5
Yeah I just don’t think the older generation is as familiar with Cena as Hogan. I doubt my parents know who John Cena is I could be wrong.
Hogan has that look as well. Cena just looks like a guy. A big muscly guy but still just a guy.
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Post by 111111 on Jul 30, 2020 18:38:06 GMT -5
John Cena isn’t even close to being half the worldwide household name Hulk Hogan is.
Literally everyone over a certain age knows who Hulk Hogan is. Before the John Cena memes most young people didn’t even know who he was.
Hulk Hogan is still a household name to anyone over their mid 20s, I bet Cena could be more well known exclusively with zoomers though.
Like I think people underestimate how much of a synonymous icon of 80s Americana Hulk Hogan is, even if he’s trashed his legacy in recent years watch the insane coverage and conversation his death will end up getting.
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Post by Cyno on Jul 30, 2020 18:41:53 GMT -5
Hogan is more famous as a wrestler than the Rock likely was, but Dwayne Johnson became a legit A-lister. He's on a completely different tier of fame to Hogan.
I think overall Hogan is more famous than Cena, but that's going to change eventually. I'd say Cena's already more of a household name than Hogan with younger Millennials and Gen Z.
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Post by Dub H on Jul 30, 2020 18:42:07 GMT -5
I would argue that even Randy Savage is.At least where I live.
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Post by koreycaskets on Jul 30, 2020 19:54:05 GMT -5
75% of the Rock's current fanbase prob have zero clue he was a wrestler.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 30, 2020 20:03:55 GMT -5
Cena's more relevant but he's not more famous. This is the correct answer.
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Post by Stu on Jul 30, 2020 20:06:32 GMT -5
But is current Cena more famous than Current Steve Austin?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 30, 2020 21:24:41 GMT -5
But is current Cena more famous than Current Steve Austin? I'd say yes. Austin's weird compared to the others that in spite of peaking so high (on par or maybe even above peak Hogan), it was a very brief, immediately-dated bit of the late '90s zeitgeist, and he's largely faded out of pop cultural consciousness since then.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 31, 2020 6:23:17 GMT -5
Cena is easily more popular than Hogan today, but there’s a difference between popularity and fame/notoriety.
Hogan had an advantage of public awareness in the 1980s because the mainstream back then was far more broad and cable TV was a bigger factor than it was in 2020 where people are cutting the cord for streaming. Today’s kids are obviously going to be more familiar with John’s work though.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Jul 31, 2020 7:02:55 GMT -5
Nope, unlike Cena, Hulk Hogan is a household name. Granted, so is garbage and that stinks when it gets old too.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Jul 31, 2020 8:37:05 GMT -5
That's a good question. It probably depends on the age range you're asking; Hogan's only a nostalgia thing these days, but I'm not sure Cena's really broken out significantly enough to eclipse that yet. Either way, it's the Rock and Bautista at #1 and #2. Give over. There are dozens of actors who've had roles in big movies, who could walk down any street in the world without being recognised. Look at his social media following vs Cena's. Cena is massively famous and has had the type of exposure on movies, talk shows, award shows etc. that Hogan hasn't had in 20 years. It's entirely possible that he's more well known at this point.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jul 31, 2020 13:31:45 GMT -5
Youd be surprised how many people dont know that The Rock and Dwayne Johnson are the same person.
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Post by msc on Jul 31, 2020 13:48:51 GMT -5
Hogan still sort of household name shorthand for all wrestling. Cena's clearly getting some good roles now but I feel he's still at the start of his film career.
Elsewhere, The Rock is easily the most famous wrestler in the world. Everybody knows that guy.
Batista was in Guardians of the Galaxy and was a Bond villain, so I find that even when folk don't watch wrestling they tend to know who he is.
Nowhere near the Hogan/Rock level, but I'd just like to add that through life I've found The Undertaker is surprisingly well known. I think thats like folk knowing who Wolverine is even if you never see X-men, the character having some sort of iconic pop culture status.
And, not world famous at all but just as an aside in the 1990s, genuinely the British Bulldog was a household name in the UK. His death was even announced on the BBC 6 O'Clock news.
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Post by slaughterama on Jul 31, 2020 13:50:31 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was (still is) one of the most recognizable people on the planet. Hogan was one of the faces of American pop culture at the time it was exploding in nations that were opening up to exposure to more and more of the world. Just about anyone above the age of 30 knows who he is, or is very cut off from the outside world. He also had a unique look and unique name compared to Cena which makes him stand out even more.
If you put pro wrestling into the category of "sports" Hogan is in the company of people like Ali, Tiger, Jordan, & Tyson in terms of American stars known globally. I'd put Cena somewhere a notch below the next group of guys like Kobe, LeBron, Mickelson, etc.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2020 14:13:13 GMT -5
Hogan is more famous as a wrestler than the Rock likely was, but Dwayne Johnson became a legit A-lister. He's on a completely different tier of fame to Hogan. I think overall Hogan is more famous than Cena, but that's going to change eventually. I'd say Cena's already more of a household name than Hogan with younger Millennials and Gen Z. The Rock, Dwayne Johnson stands as the most famous wrestling figure ever. He was already a known name thanks to wrestling but his movie career has put him on a diff tier then everyone else If Cena acting career takes off he will surpass Hogan in terms of name
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2020 14:14:08 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was (still is) one of the most recognizable people on the planet. Hogan was one of the faces of American pop culture at the time it was exploding in nations that were opening up to exposure to more and more of the world. Just about anyone above the age of 30 knows who he is, or is very cut off from the outside world. He also had a unique look and unique name compared to Cena which makes him stand out even more. If you put pro wrestling into the category of "sports" Hogan is in the company of people like Ali, Tiger, Jordan, & Tyson in terms of American stars known globally. I'd put Cena somewhere a notch below the next group of guys like Kobe, LeBron, Mickelson, etc. Kobe, LeBron is in the Jordan and Tyson group Once you get known by one name you are a worldwide name. Phil Mickelson is not in that group.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jul 31, 2020 14:14:43 GMT -5
If you put pro wrestling into the category of "sports" Hogan is in the company of people like Ali, Tiger, Jordan, & Tyson in terms of American stars known globally. I'd put Cena somewhere a notch below the next group of guys like Kobe, LeBron, Mickelson, etc. This right here is the most apt comparison. Yeah, it may SEEM like he's a big name in the western world, but Cena likely isn't nearly as recognizable on an international platform as Hogan. It's like asking someone about famous musicians/bands. Michael Jackson is going to be an easily recognizable sound/look to even the most casual of music followers, but to hell if anyone is going to be able to identify Dua Lipa by name or even song (source: I have no clue who that is, I just googled for a "top musicians of 2020" list).
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Post by Cyno on Jul 31, 2020 14:34:20 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan was (still is) one of the most recognizable people on the planet. Hogan was one of the faces of American pop culture at the time it was exploding in nations that were opening up to exposure to more and more of the world. Just about anyone above the age of 30 knows who he is, or is very cut off from the outside world. He also had a unique look and unique name compared to Cena which makes him stand out even more. If you put pro wrestling into the category of "sports" Hogan is in the company of people like Ali, Tiger, Jordan, & Tyson in terms of American stars known globally. I'd put Cena somewhere a notch below the next group of guys like Kobe, LeBron, Mickelson, etc. Kobe, LeBron is in the Jordan and Tyson group Once you get known by one name you are a worldwide name. Phil Mickelson is not in that group. Kobe and LeBron are EASILY in the Jordan, Ali, Woods, etc. group. Like, it's not even up for debate. The worldwide reaction to Kobe's death showed how much he was beloved around the world.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 31, 2020 14:37:03 GMT -5
Kobe, LeBron is in the Jordan and Tyson group Once you get known by one name you are a worldwide name. Phil Mickelson is not in that group. Kobe and LeBron are EASILY in the Jordan, Ali, Woods, etc. group. Like, it's not even up for debate. The worldwide reaction to Kobe's death showed how much he was beloved around the world. Yea, like if we are going to put Cena in a comparable group to that i'd say he's probably Tim Duncan Known and an all time great if you watch the sport but isn't the sexiest worldwide name but his accomplishments match nearly the same as the greats
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