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Post by markymark on Aug 23, 2020 16:32:41 GMT -5
Furthering some angles, a cool crossover match, definitely some fun places they can go. I wonder if Brandi or Allie vs Anna might make it on the card. Granted, I wouldn't be surprised if not, a PPV match is obviously a lot to put on her shoulders this early, but I think she could do it, especially since I don't anticipate it'd be a long match given the angle. I really believe now that Allie wont turn heel with BB joining Kingston group and with DO taking out the Nightmare Family which is a perfect excuse to drop the storyline of Allie trying to ruin the NF since DO already beat her to it.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 23, 2020 17:45:31 GMT -5
Furthering some angles, a cool crossover match, definitely some fun places they can go. I wonder if Brandi or Allie vs Anna might make it on the card. Granted, I wouldn't be surprised if not, a PPV match is obviously a lot to put on her shoulders this early, but I think she could do it, especially since I don't anticipate it'd be a long match given the angle. I really believe now that Allie wont turn heel with BB joining Kingston group and with DO taking out the Nightmare Family which is a perfect excuse to drop the storyline of Allie trying to ruin the NF since DO already beat her to it. I think Allie's with the Nightmare Family for the long haul. I think she planned on this being an easy bait and switch but now she's kinda in too deep. Interesting that she wasn't out there with the rest of the Family though or when QT got murdered. She can break off whenever she pleases but I don't know if now is the time.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 24, 2020 17:30:48 GMT -5
Wasn't sure where to put this but here should do.
I was listening to Sean Ross Sapp's latest podcast reviewing Dynamite and he was talking about the women's tournament, Ivelisse in particular. He said something along the lines of how taleneted she is but talent was never the problem, it was her other issues and from what he's been told, she might still have those issues.
That sucks if true. Also not surprising.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 24, 2020 22:38:31 GMT -5
Wasn't sure where to put this but here should do. I was listening to Sean Ross Sapp's latest podcast reviewing Dynamite and he was talking about the women's tournament, Ivelisse in particular. He said something along the lines of how taleneted she is but talent was never the problem, it was her other issues and from what he's been told, she might still have those issues. That sucks if true. Also not surprising. Ivelisse's issue has always been her attitude. It's not "Tessa Blanchard" bad but if she keeps her head down and just does the work she'll be fine.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Aug 24, 2020 22:45:03 GMT -5
Wasn't sure where to put this but here should do. I was listening to Sean Ross Sapp's latest podcast reviewing Dynamite and he was talking about the women's tournament, Ivelisse in particular. He said something along the lines of how taleneted she is but talent was never the problem, it was her other issues and from what he's been told, she might still have those issues. That sucks if true. Also not surprising. Ivelisse's issue has always been her attitude. It's not "Tessa Blanchard" bad but if she keeps her head down and just does the work she'll be fine. Yeah. I hope she does because she's a great addition to the division
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Post by AEW19 on Aug 25, 2020 4:51:27 GMT -5
She wouldn't have won the tournament if they didn't have plans to sign her. I wouldn't be surprised to see the graphic of " Diamanté and Ivelisse is ALL ELITE" within the next couple of weeks.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 25, 2020 6:24:55 GMT -5
She wouldn't have won the tournament if they didn't have plans to sign her. I wouldn't be surprised to see the graphic of " Diamanté and Ivelisse is ALL ELITE" within the next couple of weeks. I dont see why we have to wait weeks, frankly I'm shocked we didn't get it after they won the tourney itself along with some other girls. It's just become the trademark "They're signed" moment, but I dont see them giving someone three wins they weren't gonna sign, Diamante has like five now too. That's some of the most wins of any woman on the roster by default.
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Post by markymark on Aug 25, 2020 7:59:25 GMT -5
Wasn't sure where to put this but here should do. I was listening to Sean Ross Sapp's latest podcast reviewing Dynamite and he was talking about the women's tournament, Ivelisse in particular. He said something along the lines of how taleneted she is but talent was never the problem, it was her other issues and from what he's been told, she might still have those issues. That sucks if true. Also not surprising. Ivelisse's issue has always been her attitude. It's not "Tessa Blanchard" bad but if she keeps her head down and just does the work she'll be fine. And also to be careful what she says on twitter, look what happened to Tessa when she said all women had to be together and she got bashed by a lot of wrestlers.
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Post by markymark on Aug 25, 2020 17:18:06 GMT -5
Well the women once again was the lowest point of the show, but at least some fans came back when the Sicarias won.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 25, 2020 17:43:02 GMT -5
Well the women once again was the lowest point of the show, but at least some fans came back when the Sicarias won. Yeah, this is more or less what I feared - that they've booked the women into the ground to the point where they will have to take some hits and book well for a sustained period before they can regain viewer interest. (The even bigger worry is that this natural result of the past year-minus of booking will be read as evidence that they shouldn't invest more in the division.) Rather unsurprising that the finals to a tournament only posted on Youtube (that was barely mentioned on Dynamite) and featuring an actively unpopular wrestler (however unjustified that unpopularity may be) tanked.
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Post by markymark on Aug 25, 2020 17:48:50 GMT -5
Well the women once again was the lowest point of the show, but at least some fans came back when the Sicarias won. Yeah, this is more or less what I feared - that they've booked the women into the ground to the point where they will have to take some hits and book well for a sustained period before they can regain viewer interest. (The even bigger worry is that this natural result of the past year-minus of booking will be read as evidence that they shouldn't invest more in the division.) Rather unsurprising that the finals to a tournament only posted on Youtube (that was barely mentioned on Dynamite) and featuring an actively unpopular wrestler (however unjustified that unpopularity may be) tanked. My take is that someone in management thought the Nightmare Sisters were some kind of draw which was really naive, and add also the lack of development with the Sicarias.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 25, 2020 17:53:44 GMT -5
It's less them booking the women into the ground and more just, you have to start somewhere. Outside of the title, they don't really regularly have the women on the card much outside of that. This is something that should be expected, especially with the women being arguably NXT's strong point. AEW's not going to waltz in with the same prestige.
This is exactly what happened with WWE for a while. You have to build it. TNA got a free lunch on it, honestly, since people were starved enough for the Knockouts to get a lot of attention due to WWE's incompetence at booking their women at the time, but that was then. Now, WWE's got their women in fairly prominent positions so, "Here, good women's wrestling" is not a draw in and of itself. This will take time.
Right now, AEW needs to do its homework and eat its vegetables, and if they do that and nurture this, it'll be something.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 25, 2020 18:01:31 GMT -5
Growing pains will happen. The more effort you put in, the more people will be interested, AEW can and have made the women interesting and their ratings to match before, they can do it again, they just need to rebuild and go from there and there have been promising signs.
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2020 8:11:04 GMT -5
Oof that handicap match was straight up bad, they shouldnt let Rebel wrestle again.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Aug 28, 2020 8:16:48 GMT -5
Oof that handicap match was straight up bad, they shouldnt let Rebel wrestle again. Yeah, rare screw ups by Penelope and Rebel being terrible really hurt that segment. Should have just been Penelope one on one with some heel stuff from Britt and Rebel. Would have been nice if Lil Swole could have been Big Swole's back up as well.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Aug 28, 2020 8:31:46 GMT -5
This was a segment that really emphasized how division size is hurting even the good angles. Britt/Swole has been a good angle...but these last few weeks have had to stretch it into really bad lulls because there just isn't anything else going on. Last week and this week have rehashed a prior portion of the feud (Britt demanding that Swole get through a different match before facing her one-on-one) without adding any new elements (the match was still primarily comedic and gave Swole a victory that didn't look very impressive).
Also, I know that Britt is using Jericho as inspiration, but maybe the Jericho/Cena 2005 feud isn't the best place to look for material...
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 28, 2020 16:09:19 GMT -5
I like Rebel as Baker's clumsy assistant, but really shouldn't be wrestling.
That Shelly Martinez match was proof.
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Post by darbus alan on Aug 28, 2020 16:12:00 GMT -5
Reba just isn't a good wrestler. Never has been. She's good as a manager/lackey, though.
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Post by markymark on Aug 28, 2020 16:13:16 GMT -5
I like Rebel as Baker's clumsy assistant, but really shouldn't be wrestling. That Shelly Martinez match was proof. Not even Tessa could carry Rebel to a good match. Match shouldve been Penelope vs Swole, and all Rebel does is hit Penelope with the crutch via accident.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 28, 2020 16:41:09 GMT -5
Rebel/Reba in her Baker role is great, but as a wrestler? I think we've seen we don't gotta go down that road again
Nice to see multiple women spots tonight though. The match even though it sucked at least was part of a good feud, Shida/Rosa having a hype package, and Brodie putting Anna Jay over and recruiting Conti after the fact, they're slowly but surely putting pieces together
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