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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 4, 2021 20:18:31 GMT -5
Have a feeling AEW is gonna want Maki regardless if she makes it to the Japan bracket final or not She's just got an undenyable charisma about her. Also Happy 100 Pages women's division
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 4, 2021 20:40:49 GMT -5
Her English promo skills are top-notch, too, so it'll be great to see her stretch those muscles. "It was very fun, but Martina's vagina? Not a good smell."
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 4, 2021 20:46:33 GMT -5
Sorry to double-post, but I just saw Mei Suruga is also involved, which I'm allllllllmost more excited about than Itoh. She's massively, massively talented in the ring and is enormously entertaining with her character work. She's so young, too.
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Post by markymark on Feb 4, 2021 21:05:18 GMT -5
I kinda want to see Vickie and Maki exchanging words.
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Post by markymark on Feb 4, 2021 21:09:20 GMT -5
Have a feeling AEW is gonna want Maki regardless if she makes it to the Japan bracket final or not She's just got an undenyable charisma about her. Also Happy 100 Pages women's division Curious if management will let her use the headbutt.....
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 4, 2021 21:20:11 GMT -5
Have a feeling AEW is gonna want Maki regardless if she makes it to the Japan bracket final or not She's just got an undenyable charisma about her. Also Happy 100 Pages women's division Curious if management will let her use the headbutt..... Oh, there's a lot of things about Maki Itoh that TNT might want to be weary of.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 4, 2021 21:39:20 GMT -5
Not embedding since I think it might break a rule if there's too many videos, but here's a few free matches where you can see some of the Japan side wrestlers that haven't been featured by AEW much or at all yet: Rin Kadokura vs Sareee (who is now on her way to WWE). www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFHMD7H312MRyo Mizunami vs. Meiko Satomura www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stw0d4NUpiIVENY and Nyla Rose vs. Takumi Iroha and Syuri youtu.be/KF2eKFT6NjEVENY and Makoto vs. Ryo Mizunami and Itsuki Aoki youtu.be/39ffeRR-dLIAlso strongly suggest her vs Arisa Nakajima from the SEAdLINNNG on 6/13/20, it's on dailymotion and not official so held back on linking. Mei Suruga vs. Hana Honori youtu.be/XmDsx2XhPFg
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Post by markymark on Feb 5, 2021 9:42:25 GMT -5
Britt vs Yuka II in the final could work.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 5, 2021 14:00:40 GMT -5
Seems Eddie Kingston isn’t a fan.
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 5, 2021 14:56:49 GMT -5
I watched a short doc on Maki Itoh and she is amazing. She's like this heel because the world is cruel, but she is also highly insecure, and she "has to fail." There is a lot going on, and her rivalry and tag team with Mizuki is some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. People are going to get on her because her workrate is ok, but she's a star. Edit: Here is a link to the short doc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZuITjMO14&feature=youtu.be
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Feb 5, 2021 16:49:16 GMT -5
I watched a short doc on Maki Itoh and she is amazing. She's like this heel because the world is cruel, but she is also highly insecure, and she "has to fail." There is a lot going on, and her rivalry and tag team with Mizuki is some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. People are going to get on her because her workrate is ok, but she's a star. Edit: Here is a link to the short doc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZuITjMO14&feature=youtu.beItoh's been excellent at some aspects of actual wrestling for a while now. Her selling, both of strikes and holds, is great, and her ability to communicate the storyline of a match with her acting is absolutely top notch. It's just her offense doesn't look very good, and I think some of the issue is that she simply isn't a natural athlete. She doesn't have great balance. She doesn't seem to be able to put on much muscle. I guess she could be a Mr. Perfect type, where she spends 90% of all her matches getting her ass kicked. Or maybe throw her in a tag team, like the WWE did with Enzo Amore. Regarding her character, I'm kind of fascinated about what they could do to make her work in the US, without all the idol baggage. The basics will translate fine (she's an insecure, selfish asshole who relishes whenever she gets the slightest bit of power or attention, but at the same time is an indominable, irrepressible force of nature who refuses to ever give up), but the package? I dunno. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 5, 2021 18:23:12 GMT -5
I watched a short doc on Maki Itoh and she is amazing. She's like this heel because the world is cruel, but she is also highly insecure, and she "has to fail." There is a lot going on, and her rivalry and tag team with Mizuki is some of the best storytelling I've ever seen. People are going to get on her because her workrate is ok, but she's a star. Edit: Here is a link to the short doc. www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZuITjMO14&feature=youtu.beIt's just her offense doesn't look very good, and I think some of the issue is that she simply isn't a natural athlete. She doesn't have great balance. She doesn't seem to be able to put on much muscle. I guess she could be a Mr. Perfect type, where she spends 90% of all her matches getting her ass kicked. Or maybe throw her in a tag team, like the WWE did with Enzo Amore. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience. To be fair, that's pretty much where she stands out the most at the moment. Her best matches involve stuff like her as a too-stupid to stay down underdog (vs Miyu on the big January 4th show, both the Aja Kong singles and Aja Kong/Miyu tag with Sareee) and frantic tag match stuff right now. She may be at her ceiling and maybe the top belt is out of reach for a while but she has improved enough to put on good singles with the likes of Hikari, Kamiyu, and obviously Mizuki. She doesn't need to be Daniel Bryan or anything. I wouldn't worry too much about the dom role thing because it's clearly something she limits to her perverse Twitter posts, which I'd bet pretty confidently is run by Chris Brookes anyway lol.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 5, 2021 19:04:28 GMT -5
It's just her offense doesn't look very good, and I think some of the issue is that she simply isn't a natural athlete. She doesn't have great balance. She doesn't seem to be able to put on much muscle. I guess she could be a Mr. Perfect type, where she spends 90% of all her matches getting her ass kicked. Or maybe throw her in a tag team, like the WWE did with Enzo Amore. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience. To be fair, that's pretty much where she stands out the most at the moment. Her best matches involve stuff like her as a too-stupid to stay down underdog (vs Miyu on the big January 4th show, both the Aja Kong singles and Aja Kong/Miyu tag with Sareee) and frantic tag match stuff right now. She may be at her ceiling and maybe the top belt is out of reach for a while but she has improved enough to put on good singles with the likes of Hikari, Kamiyu, and obviously Mizuki. She doesn't need to be Daniel Bryan or anything. I wouldn't worry too much about the dom role thing because it's clearly something she limits to her perverse Twitter posts, which I'd bet pretty confidently is run by Chris Brookes anyway lol. Why would her account be run by another wrestler?
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Post by AwamoriRock on Feb 5, 2021 19:16:33 GMT -5
To be fair, that's pretty much where she stands out the most at the moment. Her best matches involve stuff like her as a too-stupid to stay down underdog (vs Miyu on the big January 4th show, both the Aja Kong singles and Aja Kong/Miyu tag with Sareee) and frantic tag match stuff right now. She may be at her ceiling and maybe the top belt is out of reach for a while but she has improved enough to put on good singles with the likes of Hikari, Kamiyu, and obviously Mizuki. She doesn't need to be Daniel Bryan or anything. I wouldn't worry too much about the dom role thing because it's clearly something she limits to her perverse Twitter posts, which I'd bet pretty confidently is run by Chris Brookes anyway lol. Why would her account be run by another wrestler? Maybe not actually run it, but the uptick in fluent perverse “TIL insert crude phrase” and gross/insinuating stuff pretty much took over after she started regularly hanging out and teaming with Brookes, so it’s kinda assumed he may be providing/helping those types of her posts.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Feb 5, 2021 20:29:03 GMT -5
Why would her account be run by another wrestler? Maybe not actually run it, but the uptick in fluent perverse “TIL insert crude phrase” and gross/insinuating stuff pretty much took over after she started regularly hanging out and teaming with Brookes, so it’s kinda assumed he may be providing/helping those types of her posts. I’m assuming he’s known for that type of stuff? I don’t particularly know much about him.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Feb 5, 2021 22:25:48 GMT -5
Regarding her character, I'm kind of fascinated about what they could do to make her work in the US, without all the idol baggage. The basics will translate fine (she's an insecure, selfish asshole who relishes whenever she gets the slightest bit of power or attention, but at the same time is an indominable, irrepressible force of nature who refuses to ever give up), but the package? I dunno. After watching the doc, I can see ways that they could translate it if they put the effort in. (...which is always a Question with women's booking in AEW...) Pairing her up with a scrub like Alex Gracia or KiLynn King could probably do a lot to bridge the gap - I'm imagining an angle where she demands that her new partner spread the word of how wonderful she is to the US, and that she turns it into a quest to "make it" in the US, perhaps while exaggerating her previous accomplishments.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 6, 2021 5:11:59 GMT -5
Regarding her character, I'm kind of fascinated about what they could do to make her work in the US, without all the idol baggage. The basics will translate fine (she's an insecure, selfish asshole who relishes whenever she gets the slightest bit of power or attention, but at the same time is an indominable, irrepressible force of nature who refuses to ever give up), but the package? I dunno. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience. Now, while the idea of the pop idol itself require a little bit of explaining, I think the overall concept isn't all that different from how celebrities tend to be treated in the western world and the idea of stan-culture and such. From there, I think anyone can understand the struggle of persuing a goal or a dream only to flame out, and she dealt with it by entering pro wrestling where she could take all her frustrations and insecurities out of her opponents.
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Post by Dub H on Feb 6, 2021 5:27:08 GMT -5
It is not like US doenst has the same concept with Boy Band and Female Singers.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 6, 2021 5:44:55 GMT -5
Regarding her character, I'm kind of fascinated about what they could do to make her work in the US, without all the idol baggage. The basics will translate fine (she's an insecure, selfish asshole who relishes whenever she gets the slightest bit of power or attention, but at the same time is an indominable, irrepressible force of nature who refuses to ever give up), but the package? I dunno. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience. Now, while the idea of the pop idol itself require a little bit of explaining, I think the overall concept isn't all that different from how celebrities tend to be treated in the western world and the idea of stan-culture and such. From there, I think anyone can understand the struggle of persuing a goal or a dream only to flame out, and she dealt with it by entering pro wrestling where she could take all her frustrations and insecurities out of her opponents. All you really need to do is take the tried and true method of "Delusional Artist Who Thinks They're Huge", like Jeff Jarrett, Honkytonk Man, and 3 Count, and just join it in progress where reality has set in and she's allowed to be frustrated by not having the life she that was due to her as an idol. I mean, hell, other than how they're reacting, that's Hangman Page, the most popular gimmick in the whole company outside of maybe Orange. He didn't fulfill expectations in his mind and he's reacting to it with insecurity. Maki's just embittered.
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Post by markymark on Feb 6, 2021 10:14:13 GMT -5
It's just her offense doesn't look very good, and I think some of the issue is that she simply isn't a natural athlete. She doesn't have great balance. She doesn't seem to be able to put on much muscle. I guess she could be a Mr. Perfect type, where she spends 90% of all her matches getting her ass kicked. Or maybe throw her in a tag team, like the WWE did with Enzo Amore. I'm slightly concerned she's leaning too far into the dominatrix role, because wow she's got some creepy fans on twitter who seem to demand that. She seems popular among women fans, though, too, so hopefully that'll mitigate a backlash when she gets seen by a new audience. To be fair, that's pretty much where she stands out the most at the moment. Her best matches involve stuff like her as a too-stupid to stay down underdog (vs Miyu on the big January 4th show, both the Aja Kong singles and Aja Kong/Miyu tag with Sareee) and frantic tag match stuff right now. She may be at her ceiling and maybe the top belt is out of reach for a while but she has improved enough to put on good singles with the likes of Hikari, Kamiyu, and obviously Mizuki. She doesn't need to be Daniel Bryan or anything. I wouldn't worry too much about the dom role thing because it's clearly something she limits to her perverse Twitter posts, which I'd bet pretty confidently is run by Chris Brookes anyway lol. I can see Maki being the Orange Cassidy of the Women division.
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