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Post by Pgarodactyl on May 9, 2021 5:12:43 GMT -5
Wait... back up here...
Alex's last name is Gracia? All this time I've been calling her Garcia and no one has corrected me! I've been made a fool!
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on May 9, 2021 9:58:48 GMT -5
Wait... back up here... Alex's last name is Gracia? All this time I've been calling her Garcia and no one has corrected me! I've been made a fool! You aren't the only one, and it feels rude to correct a misspelling that could easily be auto-correct on a phone...
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on May 9, 2021 10:44:37 GMT -5
Wait... back up here... Alex's last name is Gracia? All this time I've been calling her Garcia and no one has corrected me! I've been made a fool! You aren't the only one, and it feels rude to correct a misspelling that could easily be auto-correct on a phone... At least this place didn't exist in the era where we'd have to regularly spell the name Zbyszko correctly.
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Post by toodarkmark on May 9, 2021 13:34:26 GMT -5
You aren't the only one, and it feels rude to correct a misspelling that could easily be auto-correct on a phone... At least this place didn't exist in the era where we'd have to regularly spell the name Zbyszko correctly. I still don't feel comfortable spelling Madi or Leyla's last names, and I'm Eastern European.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 16:32:04 GMT -5
What do you guys and gals think IIconics could achieve in AEW?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 17:09:49 GMT -5
What do you guys and gals think IIconics could achieve in AEW? If AEW were to commit to a tag division, I would love to see them in it. Other than that it's tough to tell. While the women's division has certainly improved AEW has still rarely reached out to any big female free agents. I wouldn't be shocked if Mickie James isn't even brought in. So there is very little track record to compare.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 17:15:19 GMT -5
What do you guys and gals think IIconics could achieve in AEW? If AEW were to commit to a tag division, I would love to see them in it. Other than that it's tough to tell. While the women's division has certainly improved AEW has still rarely reached out to any big female free agents. I wouldn't be shocked if Mickie James isn't even brought in. So there is very little track record to compare. AEW's reached out to some higher calibur talent girls lately, Willow Nightengale, The Sea Stars, and Raychell Rose are more high end Indy Girls. It's unknown if they reached out to Trinidad or if she was interested as of now. It's not like they aren't looking at established talents, they just have liked focusing on developing their own which is fine as well. That being said The IIconics would be a great addition for them since they love women who can really bring characters to the screen like Baker, and Billie and Peyton would easily do that. Also while it's never a guarantee couples will go where the other is, Spears being in AEW already might help a bit. Mickie's probably going to NWA. I would be shocked if she doesn't given Aldis is there. But I could be wrong.
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Post by markymark on May 10, 2021 17:15:27 GMT -5
Maybe help boost the women demo, which the company badly needs besides helping the upcoming women tag division .
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 17:17:11 GMT -5
Maybe help boost the women demo, which the company badly needs besides helping the upcoming women tag division . I said this to you in the ratings thread already, and I guess that was ignored, but "More Women's stuff" does not equal the women's demo automatically rising. The women demo fluctuates depending on who is on screen and what is going on, man or woman.
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Post by markymark on May 10, 2021 17:27:30 GMT -5
The Iiconics had quite a fanbase though, tons of young fans, and they were top merch sellers at one point(iirc when they were women tag champs then WWE has them do nothing for some reason)
The AEW women division has a lot favorites but seems that mostly male fans care about them and for some reason most of the division dont seem to appeal to the young fans/female teens while WWE had the Horsewomen, Alexa, Bianca, they are example of wrestlers being seen as role models for the young fans, those fans with the mentality of "I want to be like them when I grow up".
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2021 17:31:37 GMT -5
If AEW were to commit to a tag division, I would love to see them in it. Other than that it's tough to tell. While the women's division has certainly improved AEW has still rarely reached out to any big female free agents. I wouldn't be shocked if Mickie James isn't even brought in. So there is very little track record to compare. AEW's reached out to some higher calibur talent girls lately, Willow Nightengale, The Sea Stars, and Raychell Rose are more high end Indy Girls. It's unknown if they reached out to Trinidad or if she was interested as of now. It's not like they aren't looking at established talents, they just have liked focusing on developing their own which is fine as well. That being said The IIconics would be a great addition for them since they love women who can really bring characters to the screen like Baker, and Billie and Peyton would easily do that. Also while it's never a guarantee couples will go where the other is, Spears being in AEW already might help a bit. Mickie's probably going to NWA. I would be shocked if she doesn't given Aldis is there. But I could be wrong. My point was more that their are few cases to compare too. While I do agree that those names are bigger indie names, only Thunder Rosa and Deeb were biggish names brought in that weren't Dark/Elivation job roles. You could argue Diamante and Ivelisse as well were bigger names, though they fell down the card relatively quick. All I was saying it's a smaller sample size so tough to tell how well The Icconics would do.
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Post by markymark on May 10, 2021 17:36:23 GMT -5
AEW's reached out to some higher calibur talent girls lately, Willow Nightengale, The Sea Stars, and Raychell Rose are more high end Indy Girls. It's unknown if they reached out to Trinidad or if she was interested as of now. It's not like they aren't looking at established talents, they just have liked focusing on developing their own which is fine as well. That being said The IIconics would be a great addition for them since they love women who can really bring characters to the screen like Baker, and Billie and Peyton would easily do that. Also while it's never a guarantee couples will go where the other is, Spears being in AEW already might help a bit. Mickie's probably going to NWA. I would be shocked if she doesn't given Aldis is there. But I could be wrong. My point was more that their are few cases to compare too. While I do agree that those names are bigger indie names, only Thunder Rosa and Deeb were biggish names brought in that weren't Dark/Elivation job roles. You could argue Diamante and Ivelisse as well were bigger names, though they fell down the card relatively quick. All I was saying it's a smaller sample size so tough to tell how well The Icconics would do. Diamante wasnt exactly good at the start(probably rustiness due to the pandemic), and Ivelisse was always a big mark for herself, now Diamante has gotten better and is a good worker. I wonder if AEW will attempt to get Kiera Hogan once her Impact deal is up to get the return of Fire and Adrenaline.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 17:43:36 GMT -5
AEW's reached out to some higher calibur talent girls lately, Willow Nightengale, The Sea Stars, and Raychell Rose are more high end Indy Girls. It's unknown if they reached out to Trinidad or if she was interested as of now. It's not like they aren't looking at established talents, they just have liked focusing on developing their own which is fine as well. That being said The IIconics would be a great addition for them since they love women who can really bring characters to the screen like Baker, and Billie and Peyton would easily do that. Also while it's never a guarantee couples will go where the other is, Spears being in AEW already might help a bit. Mickie's probably going to NWA. I would be shocked if she doesn't given Aldis is there. But I could be wrong. My point was more that their are few cases to compare too. While I do agree that those names are bigger indie names, only Thunder Rosa and Deeb were biggish names brought in that weren't Dark/Elivation job roles. You could argue Diamante and Ivelisse as well were bigger names, though they fell down the card relatively quick. All I was saying it's a smaller sample size so tough to tell how well The Icconics would do. The main Pandemic signings for AEW have been Deeb, Conti, Hirsch, and Rosa (At least partly until her NWA contract is up) and Mizunami if you count her stay. That along with the likes of Cargill, King, Wrenkowski and Velvet on the come up, and the likes of Diamante and Big Swole improving, it at the very least is nice that AEW is in a position where they are beginning to form a division that has a lot of options not even considering the Joshi and seemingly wanting Itoh full time. They've done that without resorting to getting huge names, it took time but it's definitely promising and it could yield some very good results and has already, as the year continues. If they eventually were to get the likes of The IIconics, Nightengale, Davienne, and Sea Stars along with that? It'd just be gravy in the end tbh.
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Post by toodarkmark on May 10, 2021 19:29:16 GMT -5
What do you guys and gals think IIconics could achieve in AEW? I think they can launch a youtube show, and be a top heel group on the shows. Other than Deeb, they don't have any ex WWE workers, so they would built in heat. I guess Brandi as well worked for WWE, but not really. I love them, and McKay is a comedy genius, so I want them to sign as soon as they can.
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Post by pippen94 on May 10, 2021 19:57:19 GMT -5
What do you guys and gals think IIconics could achieve in AEW? I think they can launch a youtube show, and be a top heel group on the shows. Other than Deeb, they don't have any ex WWE workers, so they would built in heat. I guess Brandi as well worked for WWE, but not really. I love them, and McKay is a comedy genius, so I want them to sign as soon as they can. I see them going to impact & winning tag titles there. Previously they've been a comedy duo, so that'll allow them to develop more substance before entering aew
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 20:02:05 GMT -5
Renee Michelle had a great match tonight vs Rosa, usually showcased her selling but tonight she showed what she can do in a straight up match and it's impressive if they end up signing her to a deal
Rosa aso cut a promo giving Britt props for beating everyone in her way, but her, and conceded it was unsanctioned so it didn't count in the rankings. However she also called her shot and said she wants Baker or Shida after DoN and wants Deeb when she's done with her "Business elsewhere" which I assume means NWA, aiming to become a double champion this year.
Good stuff. Also Hirsch and Conti looked great tonight. Baker also looked good and had a promo, good women's stuff on the show overall.
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Post by pippen94 on May 10, 2021 20:03:41 GMT -5
Renee Michelle had a great match tonight vs Rosa, usually showcased her selling but tonight she showed what she can do in a straight up match and it's impressive if they end up signing her to a deal Rosa aso cut a promo giving Britt props for beating everyone in her way, but her, and conceded it was unsanctioned so it didn't count in the rankings. However she also called her shot and said she wants Baker or Shida after DoN and wants Deeb when she's done with her "Business elsewhere" which I assume means NWA, aiming to become a double champion this year. Good stuff. Also Hirsch and Conti looked great tonight. Baker also looked good and had a promo, good women's stuff on the show overall. I'm not an aew hater but a lot of the women who feature on dark are really green
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 20:53:36 GMT -5
Renee Michelle had a great match tonight vs Rosa, usually showcased her selling but tonight she showed what she can do in a straight up match and it's impressive if they end up signing her to a deal Rosa aso cut a promo giving Britt props for beating everyone in her way, but her, and conceded it was unsanctioned so it didn't count in the rankings. However she also called her shot and said she wants Baker or Shida after DoN and wants Deeb when she's done with her "Business elsewhere" which I assume means NWA, aiming to become a double champion this year. Good stuff. Also Hirsch and Conti looked great tonight. Baker also looked good and had a promo, good women's stuff on the show overall. I'm not an aew hater but a lot of the women who feature on dark are really green They've been showcasing some more experienced Indy Girls but of course there are green ones. But Renee Michelle's been around a bit, she's a four time champion in MCW, and it shows. The girls in AEW are only improving more and more. Velvet, King, Hirsch, Jordyn, Conti Abadon and more have improved so much it's insane. So no not all the girls they feature on DARK are green.
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Post by markymark on May 10, 2021 21:09:16 GMT -5
That Senton on Madi looked really dangerous, like her back was gonna snap in 2.
I wonder if Sterling being Jade manager/representative leads to her joining Pinnacle.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on May 10, 2021 21:45:57 GMT -5
That Senton on Madi looked really dangerous, like her back was gonna snap in 2. I wonder if Sterling being Jade manager/representative leads to her joining Pinnacle. I'm sure Madi's fine, but I'd have that bump taken stomach first more than the back No confirmation that Sterling is Jade's official manager, we may learn more on Dynamite, Jade's scheduled for an interview.
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