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Post by Pooh Carlson on Jul 31, 2020 18:26:46 GMT -5
I'm currently watching all Undertaker's PPV matches. Currently in Taker vs Vader and JR made a comment that Vader wasn't able to score a pinfall because he didn't hook Taker's leg. Is there a kayfabe reason why hooking a leg would make it harder to get a shoulder up?
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Post by mrpeacock on Jul 31, 2020 18:48:55 GMT -5
It’s the principal of pulling the opponents body weight onto their shoulders too plus a kick out is all about kicking so if you hook the leg they won’t be able to kick as well. However Undertaker usually could only pin an opponent when he didn’t hook the leg. Go figure.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 31, 2020 18:51:24 GMT -5
The legs are generally the strongest part of the body.
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Post by XIII on Jul 31, 2020 19:58:41 GMT -5
The idea is that it should be an amateur wrestling style cradle, the problem is whenever people even hook the leg they do it in the laziest way possible rendering it useless either way
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 20:04:06 GMT -5
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Jul 31, 2020 20:27:10 GMT -5
Smart-ass comment below:
Hook the leg
Kick out
What could possibly be th
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Post by camphor #BLM on Jul 31, 2020 20:28:19 GMT -5
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Jul 31, 2020 23:19:06 GMT -5
one of my biggest pet peeves in wrestling is how often someone will hook the leg, but put ZERO weight on their opponent's shoulders.
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Post by Shark on Jul 31, 2020 23:20:58 GMT -5
I do remember a story years back when RVD beat AJ for the TNA title and AJ was reportedly upset that RVD didn't hook his leg during the final pinfall and that it made AJ look like a chump.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 1, 2020 2:19:36 GMT -5
It’s the principal of pulling the opponents body weight onto their shoulders too plus a kick out is all about kicking so if you hook the leg they won’t be able to kick as well. However Undertaker usually could only pin an opponent when he didn’t hook the leg. Go figure. I think that whole thing with Taker doing his signature pin after a Tombstone and not hooking the leg is that he beat the shit out of them so hard that there's literally no chance of them kicking out anyway. |
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Post by honsou on Aug 1, 2020 2:38:33 GMT -5
One of the most common ways to avoid getting pinned is bridging with your feet on the mat. If you hook the leg its really difficult to bridge
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 1, 2020 2:39:08 GMT -5
It’s the principal of pulling the opponents body weight onto their shoulders too plus a kick out is all about kicking so if you hook the leg they won’t be able to kick as well. However Undertaker usually could only pin an opponent when he didn’t hook the leg. Go figure. I think that whole thing with Taker doing his signature pin after a Tombstone and not hooking the leg is that he beat the shit out of them so hard that there's literally no chance of them kicking out anyway. Right, it was putting over the tombstone. The pin was simply academic. |
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Aug 1, 2020 5:29:19 GMT -5
One of the most common ways to avoid getting pinned is bridging with your feet on the mat. If you hook the leg its really difficult to bridge If you just bridge when your feet aren't your shoulders still down though? Or maybe the image is wrong in my head. |
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Post by camphor #BLM on Aug 1, 2020 7:07:03 GMT -5
I think that whole thing with Taker doing his signature pin after a Tombstone and not hooking the leg is that he beat the shit out of them so hard that there's literally no chance of them kicking out anyway. Right, it was putting over the tombstone. The pin was simply academic.  |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 1, 2020 13:00:55 GMT -5
Why hook the leg? Because Gorilla Monsoon said to always hook the leg. You don't need any more reason then that.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 1, 2020 16:02:17 GMT -5
Why hook the leg? Because Gorilla Monsoon said to always hook the leg. You don't need any more reason then that. Precisely. |
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Post by honsou on Aug 1, 2020 16:46:48 GMT -5
One of the most common ways to avoid getting pinned is bridging with your feet on the mat. If you hook the leg its really difficult to bridge If you just bridge when your feet aren't your shoulders still down though? Or maybe the image is wrong in my head. You're just looking to get one shoulder up. So you'd bridge and then attempt to get to your side. There is actually a basic wrestling drill where you bridge then use your left hand to touch the mat to the right of your head, then do the same with your right hand to touch the mat to the left of your head just to get used to escaping. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 12:01:38 GMT -5
Right, it was putting over the tombstone. The pin was simply academic. What a Genius post. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 12:40:15 GMT -5
There's no advantage to booking the leg.
Its just one of those things that's aesthetically pleasing.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Aug 3, 2020 13:06:52 GMT -5
Right, it was putting over the tombstone. The pin was simply academic. REST IN TENURE |
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