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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 2, 2020 17:50:27 GMT -5
RVD and the frog splash
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Aug 2, 2020 18:19:51 GMT -5
Okada and the Rainmaker. I'm convinced that the first one he did at Wrestle Kingdom 6 purposefully sucked so it was that much more of a shock when he took of Tanahashi's head the next month.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 2, 2020 21:33:16 GMT -5
Okada and the Rainmaker. I'm convinced that the first one he did at Wrestle Kingdom 6 purposefully sucked so it was that much more of a shock when he took of Tanahashi's head the next month. It's kind of wild that eventually it became so over. I remember a lot of pushback early on, people saying, "Why doesn't he just finish people with the tombstone he does? It looks so much more like a finisher", and it needed time to pick up momentum in a lot of circles.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Aug 2, 2020 22:17:20 GMT -5
Scott steiner was overshadowed by Big brother Rick's personality and steinerline until he busted out the Frankensteiner.
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Post by Phosphor Glow on Aug 2, 2020 22:27:55 GMT -5
Did Sheamus have the Brogue kick right from the beginning? I can't remember, but I feel like it might have been a big part of him climbing the ranks so quickly he had the Irish Curse as his finisher. (The STO Backbreaker thing) which eventually became his signature. I think the Brogue kick was like his third or fourth finisher actually. I believe it went Irish Curse, the High Cross, the White Noise and then finally the Brouge Kick. he also had the Cloverleaf but I don't know if he did that enough to be his finisher. I understand why he'd move on from it as a finisher, but I always thought the Irish Curse looked so brutal. A backbreaker is already a hell of a thing (and extremely underutilized in modern wrestling), but the Irish Curse gives it SO MUCH more height. Absolutely killer move.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 2, 2020 23:23:56 GMT -5
he had the Irish Curse as his finisher. (The STO Backbreaker thing) which eventually became his signature. I think the Brogue kick was like his third or fourth finisher actually. I believe it went Irish Curse, the High Cross, the White Noise and then finally the Brouge Kick. he also had the Cloverleaf but I don't know if he did that enough to be his finisher. I understand why he'd move on from it as a finisher, but I always thought the Irish Curse looked so brutal. A backbreaker is already a hell of a thing (and extremely underutilized in modern wrestling), but the Irish Curse gives it SO MUCH more height. Absolutely killer move. and is twice as deadly on the steps! Alright I just wanted to mock the time Cole flipped out about Sheamus doing it to someone on the steps...
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 2, 2020 23:35:18 GMT -5
The Full Nelson is probably the most basic of basic holds in the industry, yet there was a stretch where it managed to turn Chris Masters into a semi-main eventer for awhile.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 2, 2020 23:46:43 GMT -5
The Full Nelson is probably the most basic of basic holds in the industry, yet there was a stretch where it managed to turn Chris Masters into a semi-main eventer for awhile. I do love when buff guys make it a finisher, and it helped Masters would ragdoll guys with it. It was also fun for Lashley to bust out recently, like that beating the Masterlock Challenge means he has adopted the move as part of his repertoire now.
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Post by adamclark52 on Aug 2, 2020 23:54:49 GMT -5
Victorias "Widows Peak"
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Post by angelofapocalypse on Aug 3, 2020 0:39:22 GMT -5
Rick Rude's Rude Awakening Neckbreaker
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 3, 2020 0:41:33 GMT -5
he had the Irish Curse as his finisher. (The STO Backbreaker thing) which eventually became his signature. I think the Brogue kick was like his third or fourth finisher actually. I believe it went Irish Curse, the High Cross, the White Noise and then finally the Brouge Kick. he also had the Cloverleaf but I don't know if he did that enough to be his finisher. I understand why he'd move on from it as a finisher, but I always thought the Irish Curse looked so brutal. A backbreaker is already a hell of a thing (and extremely underutilized in modern wrestling), but the Irish Curse gives it SO MUCH more height. Absolutely killer move. I wonder if part of why he downplayed it in favor of other finishers, like the Brogue Kick, the White Noise, and the Cloverleaf, is because he or WWE opted to name it after a dick joke of all things.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 3, 2020 3:31:38 GMT -5
I wonder if part of why he downplayed it in favor of other finishers, like the Brogue Kick, the White Noise, and the Cloverleaf, is because he or WWE opted to name it after a dick joke of all things. IIRC they initially moved away from it because they had a couple of other guys using moves with a similar setup and/or execution (Ezekiel Jackson's Uranage was one of them) and that there was the potential for a lot of wear and tear on Sheamus himself to be having guys land on his left leg every match he won with it. Once he started using other finishers he really only busted out the backbreaker on big TV matches and PPVs.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 3, 2020 4:30:34 GMT -5
I wonder if part of why he downplayed it in favor of other finishers, like the Brogue Kick, the White Noise, and the Cloverleaf, is because he or WWE opted to name it after a dick joke of all things. IIRC they initially moved away from it because they had a couple of other guys using moves with a similar setup and/or execution (Ezekiel Jackson's Uranage was one of them) and that there was the potential for a lot of wear and tear on Sheamus himself to be having guys land on his left leg every match he won with it. Once he started using other finishers he really only busted out the backbreaker on big TV matches and PPVs. Makes sense. Also, the crucifix bomb also similarly probably was phased since, wrestlers HATE taking that move. If you watch carefully, the unfortunate fact is that people bash the back of their head a LOT on that move.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 3, 2020 4:37:56 GMT -5
IIRC they initially moved away from it because they had a couple of other guys using moves with a similar setup and/or execution (Ezekiel Jackson's Uranage was one of them) and that there was the potential for a lot of wear and tear on Sheamus himself to be having guys land on his left leg every match he won with it. Once he started using other finishers he really only busted out the backbreaker on big TV matches and PPVs. Makes sense. Also, the crucifix bomb also similarly probably was phased since, wrestlers HATE taking that move. If you watch carefully, the unfortunate fact is that people bash the back of their head a LOT on that move. The Razor's Edge also isn't a very versatile move, in that he'll never be able to do it to big guys, which was an issue for most of his run when Big Show, Kane, Mark Henry, and others were still very much active in WWE. But at the end of the day, the real reason the High Cross/Pale Justice, the Irish Curse, and the White Noise never stuck around as his finish is because he got the Brogue Kick over. It's got to be a wrestler's dream to get a strike over as the finish because he can do it to anyone, and it doesn't add to his bump card in the process.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 3, 2020 10:49:50 GMT -5
I think we need to seperate
"The finisher helped the talent be over"
"And the talent helped the finisher be over". Okada made the Rainmaker over for example.
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Post by camphor #BLM on Aug 3, 2020 11:17:37 GMT -5
I understand why he'd move on from it as a finisher, but I always thought the Irish Curse looked so brutal. A backbreaker is already a hell of a thing (and extremely underutilized in modern wrestling), but the Irish Curse gives it SO MUCH more height. Absolutely killer move. I wonder if part of why he downplayed it in favor of other finishers, like the Brogue Kick, the White Noise, and the Cloverleaf, is because he or WWE opted to name it after a dick joke of all things. HOW HAS THERE NEVER BEEN A WRESTLER NAMED "DICK JOKE"?! On a more serious note, this form of back-breaker looks...pretty stiff, actually -- I remember thinking the 'normal' backbreaker was scary, until I saw it more and saw how the guy taking it has his feet hit the ground and take a bunch of the impact. This looks like a Rock Bottom square onto his knee, a "non-worked" backbreaker cuz the guy taking it can't dissipate the blow Am I missing something (or is this a badly-delivered one?)
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 3, 2020 11:21:02 GMT -5
Scott steiner was overshadowed by Big brother Rick's personality and steinerline until he busted out the Frankensteiner. it's hard to believe at one time they were thought of as "Rick Steiner and his boring brother"
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 3, 2020 11:23:11 GMT -5
I understand why he'd move on from it as a finisher, but I always thought the Irish Curse looked so brutal. A backbreaker is already a hell of a thing (and extremely underutilized in modern wrestling), but the Irish Curse gives it SO MUCH more height. Absolutely killer move. I wonder if part of why he downplayed it in favor of other finishers, like the Brogue Kick, the White Noise, and the Cloverleaf, is because he or WWE opted to name it after a dick joke of all things. just looking at it, as cool as it is, doing that move like 300 nights a year would have destroyed his knee.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 11:37:50 GMT -5
Styles Clash!
Not that he isn't one of the all time grata anyway, but it helped put him on the map in his early days.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Aug 3, 2020 12:49:03 GMT -5
How about The Stomp? Anything else Seth ever used resulted in an anti-pop.
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