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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2020 13:22:21 GMT -5
He got over on his own merits for other reasons, obviously, but Shawn Michaels does not reach the heights he did in his career without the Sweet Chin Music in my opinion. Simple, effective, and impactful move with a recognizable setup and that could be hit on opponents of any size.
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Post by Psicofreak667 on Aug 4, 2020 3:52:26 GMT -5
I know she wasn't much of a wrestler at all, but being able to do a powerbomb really got Sable over back in the late 90s.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 4, 2020 4:42:57 GMT -5
Earthquake's finisher really differentiated him from other large wrestlers like Tugboat or Bam Bam.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 4, 2020 11:27:44 GMT -5
Shane Helms' Vertebreaker was a huge part of getting him to stand out in the late WCW Cruiserweight division to the point he was champion and was able to even be in a position to get the Hurricane gimmick.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Aug 5, 2020 3:37:18 GMT -5
Justin Gabriel's 450 splash- I'm pretty sure he was the first person to use it after it was banned. It also played a big part in his character development in Nexus.
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Post by dangerousdanpotato on Aug 6, 2020 5:20:38 GMT -5
The tombstone really helped in building allure around the early Undertaker and getting him over as a totally dominant and terrifying agent of death. It looked so devastating and was sold as being terminal. No-one kicked out of that thing. The pinning pose and post-match theatrics also helped get it over as spelling instant death, making Undertaker a true Grim Reaper.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 6, 2020 6:57:20 GMT -5
Okada and the Rainmaker. I'm convinced that the first one he did at Wrestle Kingdom 6 purposefully sucked so it was that much more of a shock when he took of Tanahashi's head the next month. I think even in kayfabe that entire match sucked on purpose so Tana would go "sure kid, I'll give you a shot"
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Post by Bad Moon on Aug 6, 2020 7:11:07 GMT -5
Orton actually had two of these, first when he started using the RKO in conjunction with the Legend Killer gimmick to establish himself as a main eventer and then again years down the line when he started using the punt to move out of that weird and very WWE-specific space of "we'll put the belt on him but he's not really a top star" to actual top star.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Aug 7, 2020 4:32:20 GMT -5
DDP and the Diamond Cutter, specifically how many variations he could do of the move. When I read the topic DDP was the 1st person that popped in my head. Wow that move was over in 1997. I don't think I've seen a move as over since.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Aug 7, 2020 4:34:23 GMT -5
IMO, Petey Williams would be entirely unknown if not for the Canadian Destroyer he was a good wrestler without it ... one of my favorite matches from him was hinged on someone claiming that the Destroyer was all he had in his arsenal. So Petey responded by beating him in a match without using it. That said... it certainly is what got more eyeballs on him as it was before everyone and their mother started using it as a mid match move... Poor Petey must feel the same way Jake Roberts feels every time he sees his pride and joy bastardized in the middle of a match only for the guy that took it to be back up and just fine 30 seconds later.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 7, 2020 4:46:43 GMT -5
he was a good wrestler without it ... one of my favorite matches from him was hinged on someone claiming that the Destroyer was all he had in his arsenal. So Petey responded by beating him in a match without using it. That said... it certainly is what got more eyeballs on him as it was before everyone and their mother started using it as a mid match move... Poor Petey must feel the same way Jake Roberts feels every time he sees his pride and joy bastardized in the middle of a match only for the guy that took it to be back up and just fine 30 seconds later. I love Jake's response when someone asked him about the DDT becoming a mid match move... it was something like the problem is none of them are doing it right, if they had perfected it that would be all they needed. That said I can at least understand why a DDT became a mid match move way more than I can the Canadian Destroyer....
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 7, 2020 5:21:17 GMT -5
2 Cold Scorpio doing the 450 Splash in the early 90's WCW made him look like he was from another planet to be able to pull it off. Commonplace now, but absolutely maddening back then. Found a clip of it too www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cM7HJyeyQQ
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2020 14:08:13 GMT -5
Scotty 2 Hotty and The Worm. Yeah, without that he probably falls into obscurity when Too Cool ends and is released shortly after. The Worm always kept him over enough that he managed to stick around for years after.
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 7, 2020 14:11:54 GMT -5
Roman and the Superman Punch.
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Post by Laces on Aug 7, 2020 17:20:41 GMT -5
Probably incorrect but this whole thread all I can think of is The Razor's Edge
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Post by FrankGotch on Aug 9, 2020 1:25:45 GMT -5
Scott steiner was overshadowed by Big brother Rick's personality and steinerline until he busted out the Frankensteiner. it's hard to believe at one time they were thought of as "Rick Steiner and his boring brother" IDK even during his "small" phase Scott had a body that screamed look at me! Scott's rookie year in AWA he could easily rival guys like Pula Roma, and Jim Powers in physique. By the time he hit Big poppa pump levels his upper body rivaled modern Olympia champions which is totally insane. The fact that he had a legit wrestling pedigree, and an already established name probably put him over the top even before he started with the frankenstiener. Not that it didn't help getting him over a lot. But I think Scott would've become a star even if he'd stuck to the Steiner recliner as his finish his whole career. Imagine how big he would have been if people would have been more willing to take the screw driver. that has to be the best / most insane finisher ever.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 9, 2020 1:42:16 GMT -5
Scotty 2 Hotty and The Worm. Yeah, without that he probably falls into obscurity when Too Cool ends and is released shortly after. The Worm always kept him over enough that he managed to stick around for years after. I feel like they'd keep him around, since he was a skilled enhancement guy, but he probably would be like JTG and very rarely get on TV instead of at least getting some occasional spotlight like the team with Albert.
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Post by evilone on Aug 9, 2020 4:25:52 GMT -5
He got over on his own merits for other reasons, obviously, but Shawn Michaels does not reach the heights he did in his career without the Sweet Chin Music in my opinion. Simple, effective, and impactful move with a recognizable setup and that could be hit on opponents of any size. Look at your avatar. Yokozuna = Banzai Drop, the most unique finisher there was. Not sure anyone has successfully replicated it after him unlike many variations of leg drop, power bombs, DDTs etc. BTW I think SCM is the weakest finisher one main eventer has ever used. Uppercut makes more sense than this weak looking kick, foot stomping before it is more of a signature than the kick itself.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 9, 2020 10:38:57 GMT -5
He got over on his own merits for other reasons, obviously, but Shawn Michaels does not reach the heights he did in his career without the Sweet Chin Music in my opinion. Simple, effective, and impactful move with a recognizable setup and that could be hit on opponents of any size. Look at your avatar. Yokozuna = Banzai Drop, the most unique finisher there was. Not sure anyone has successfully replicated it after him unlike many variations of leg drop, power bombs, DDTs etc. BTW I think SCM is the weakest finisher one main eventer has ever used. Uppercut makes more sense than this weak looking kick, foot stomping before it is more of a signature than the kick itself. I mean a good kick to the face can knock anyone out ,its mot hard to believe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2020 11:01:40 GMT -5
He got over on his own merits for other reasons, obviously, but Shawn Michaels does not reach the heights he did in his career without the Sweet Chin Music in my opinion. Simple, effective, and impactful move with a recognizable setup and that could be hit on opponents of any size. Look at your avatar. Yokozuna = Banzai Drop, the most unique finisher there was. Not sure anyone has successfully replicated it after him unlike many variations of leg drop, power bombs, DDTs etc. BTW I think SCM is the weakest finisher one main eventer has ever used. Uppercut makes more sense than this weak looking kick, foot stomping before it is more of a signature than the kick itself. Yokozuna is my all time favorite wrestler, and the banzai my favorite finisher. I just think that he got over, more, by being an agile 500+ man who looked like he could murder you than the finisher itself. SCM I think was integral in getting Shawn as over as he got because of the theatrics of the move and the fact that he could hit it on anyone (which is important for a guy Shawn’a size if he’s going to main event). I don’t disagree that he should have maybe had a companion move like the Rock Bottom to the People’s Elbow, but I definitely think it was one of the most over finishers of the 90s.
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