I want....

[BatPunk]

Here is a thread that you can put whatever it is ‘you want’ to see in WWE.


Starter goes first.


I want, straight up, vicious killer Dolph Ziggler! After seeing him in Raw Underground tonight, I could buy THAT Dolph. I would even cheer for him.

[Gus Richlen Was Wrong]

I want RAW to actually be watchable.
I want Vince to go away.
I want people who know how to put a show together to be in charge.
I want Vince to go far away.
I want the kind of good booking that is on NXT to be in the entire WWE.
I want Vince to PLEASE go far, far away.
I want the production to stop being so goddamned ham-fisted.
I want Vince to PLEASE, for the love of everything, go far, far away.
I want to see a lot of the talent stop being squandered and instead be used to the best of WWE's ability.
And, most importantly, I WANT VINCE MCMAHON TO f*** OFF ALREADY.

[Instant Classic]

I want Shelton Benjamin to be in next years MITB.

[DSR]

I want significantly less camera cuts and zooms.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

I want those guitars that are... like, double guitars?

[King Devitt: Scrum Guzzler]

Aug 3, 2020 22:33:14 GMT -5 Gus Richlen Was Wrong said:

I want RAW to actually be watchable.
I want Vince to go away.
I want people who know how to put a show together to be in charge.
I want Vince to go far away.
I want the kind of good booking that is on NXT to be in the entire WWE.
I want Vince to PLEASE go far, far away.
I want the production to stop being so goddamned ham-fisted.
I want Vince to PLEASE, for the love of everything, go far, far away.
I want to see a lot of the talent stop being squandered and instead be used to the best of WWE's ability.
And, most importantly, I WANT VINCE MCMAHON TO f*** OFF ALREADY.

And I want Vince to take Kevin Dunn with him.

[DSR]

Aug 3, 2020 22:38:28 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

I want those guitars that are... like, double guitars?

Aw, you changed this post!

I mean, I like this answer, too, but still.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

Aug 3, 2020 22:43:08 GMT -5 DSR said:

Aug 3, 2020 22:38:28 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

I want those guitars that are... like, double guitars?

Aw, you changed this post!

I mean, I like this answer, too, but still.

I got my candy in literally the intervening 30 seconds between making the post and the edit.

[ssdrivin]

Answers.

Can I want answers? Because I want answers.

Also all of those other things people mentioned above. But also answers.

[A Platypus Rave]

Aug 3, 2020 22:38:28 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

I want those guitars that are... like, double guitars?

I want chocolate microscopes.

[Deleted]

I want a "less is more" approach with the camera work.

I want them to get rid of the 24/7 Championship.

I want them to do a brand split and actually stick with it. If you want to move people to different shows, just do trades throughout the year.

I want them to stop with these "You get handed everything because you're dating ___ or related to ___" promos. Not only are they lazy, but they make no sense in kayfabe.

I want Raw and SD to get creative with their promos and vignettes the way NXT does. Stuff like the Gargano dinner segments and Io's promos are like a breath of fresh air compared to the usual 10-15 minute in ring segment on Raw or SD.

I want win and loss records to matter.

I want talk show segments to go away.

[Rumble McSkirmish]

...you to want me.

...something that I want.

...to break free.

...it that way.

...candy.

[Jonathan Michaels]

Them to continue trying new things and not listen to people complain and then drop them after a couple weeks.

For everyone to stop sending mixed signals as to what they want out of the show so the company can’t figure out how to make them happy.

[ssdrivin]

Aug 3, 2020 23:37:31 GMT -5 Jonathan Michaels said:

Them to continue trying new things and not listen to people complain and then drop them after a couple weeks.

For everyone to stop sending mixed signals as to what they want out of the show so the company can’t figure out how to make them happy.

It's a feedback loop though. If everybody trusted WWE to follow through on angles, angles that made sense, went somewhere useful, and played out to a logical conclusion, it'd be way easier to accept the "dude, just wait and see, it's only been a week, how can you expect them to give you the whole resolution already?" argument. They've proven they can't or won't consistently do that, they'll change angles in random directions at random times so they no longer make sense, or they'll just ditch them and forget they even happened without even a vague acknowledgement. So people complain. Then WWE drops another angle. Then people complain. The cycle just keeps on rolling.

So naturally people are going to see new angles show up, especially if they're a bit cryptic or not immediately obvious in direction or maybe taking their time to get to the meaty bits, and think "well what's the point? they won't explain any of this, it's just going to end up in some nonsensical blowoff where the wrong guy wins and the whole thing will have been for nothing". Or maybe the angle just trundles on aimlessly forever involving random people for no reason who seem to have no specific reason for being involved, so it all feels a bit "going through the motions".

It's true that it would help if WWE ignored naysayers when that happens and play out the angles to completion regardless, but the problem then becomes "what if the angles do actually just suck?" and not listening to feedback will result in them just running through crappy angles which people also won't want to tune in for. If all the people stopped complaining, the show would probably still suck, it'd just be less like a pinball machine in terms of written direction, it'd just be merely boring and nonsensical instead of boring, nonsensical, and impossible to logically follow.

If they could consistently write and perform solid, decent, logical angles which make sense in-universe and keep things flowing fresh, that'd be great, then they could ignore the fans but have the show still be good for the majority. But they can't and they apparently don't, so we get the cycle we have right now, where WWE keeps throwing stuff at the wall haphazardly, the audience raises an eyebrow and asks wtf is this supposed to be? WWE shitcans it and tries something else lazy and haphazardly, the audience reacts poorly again. It goes on and on and on, they have to break the cycle by producing high quality angles, week after week, which have continuity, make sense, and are entertaining.

[Deleted]

Aug 4, 2020 0:11:00 GMT -5 ssdrivin said:

Aug 3, 2020 23:37:31 GMT -5 Jonathan Michaels said:

Them to continue trying new things and not listen to people complain and then drop them after a couple weeks.

For everyone to stop sending mixed signals as to what they want out of the show so the company can’t figure out how to make them happy.

It's a feedback loop though. If everybody trusted WWE to follow through on angles, angles that made sense, went somewhere useful, and played out to a logical conclusion, it'd be way easier to accept the "dude, just wait and see, it's only been a week, how can you expect them to give you the whole resolution already?" argument. They've proven they can't or won't consistently do that, they'll change angles in random directions at random times so they no longer make sense, or they'll just ditch them and forget they even happened without even a vague acknowledgement. So people complain. Then WWE drops another angle. Then people complain. The cycle just keeps on rolling.

So naturally people are going to see new angles show up, especially if they're a bit cryptic or not immediately obvious in direction or maybe taking their time to get to the meaty bits, and think "well what's the point? they won't explain any of this, it's just going to end up in some nonsensical blowoff where the wrong guy wins and the whole thing will have been for nothing". Or maybe the angle just trundles on aimlessly forever involving random people for no reason who seem to have no specific reason for being involved, so it all feels a bit "going through the motions".

It's true that it would help if WWE ignored naysayers when that happens and play out the angles to completion regardless, but the problem then becomes "what if the angles do actually just suck?" and not listening to feedback will result in them just running through crappy angles which people also won't want to tune in for. If all the people stopped complaining, the show would probably still suck, it'd just be less like a pinball machine in terms of written direction, it'd just be merely boring and nonsensical instead of boring, nonsensical, and impossible to logically follow.

If they could consistently write and perform solid, decent, logical angles which make sense in-universe and keep things flowing fresh, that'd be great, then they could ignore the fans but have the show still be good for the majority. But they can't and they apparently don't, so we get the cycle we have right now, where WWE keeps throwing stuff at the wall haphazardly, the audience raises an eyebrow and asks wtf is this supposed to be? WWE shitcans it and tries something else lazy and haphazardly, the audience reacts poorly again. It goes on and on and on, they have to break the cycle by producing high quality angles, week after week, which have continuity, make sense, and are entertaining.

I hate to bring up NXT all the time, but there's a reason NXT gets the benefit of the doubt at least 70% of the time. They do whiff on some things (like the Ciampa/Gargano feud after Takeover: New Orleans and the Dakota Kai vs. Tegan Nox feud), but more often than not they get shit right. People have been burned by Raw for so long now, I don't blame anyone for shitting on it already.

[ssdrivin]

Aug 4, 2020 0:18:12 GMT -5 @dax said:

Aug 4, 2020 0:11:00 GMT -5 ssdrivin said:

It's a feedback loop though. If everybody trusted WWE to follow through on angles, angles that made sense, went somewhere useful, and played out to a logical conclusion, it'd be way easier to accept the "dude, just wait and see, it's only been a week, how can you expect them to give you the whole resolution already?" argument. They've proven they can't or won't consistently do that, they'll change angles in random directions at random times so they no longer make sense, or they'll just ditch them and forget they even happened without even a vague acknowledgement. So people complain. Then WWE drops another angle. Then people complain. The cycle just keeps on rolling.

So naturally people are going to see new angles show up, especially if they're a bit cryptic or not immediately obvious in direction or maybe taking their time to get to the meaty bits, and think "well what's the point? they won't explain any of this, it's just going to end up in some nonsensical blowoff where the wrong guy wins and the whole thing will have been for nothing". Or maybe the angle just trundles on aimlessly forever involving random people for no reason who seem to have no specific reason for being involved, so it all feels a bit "going through the motions".

It's true that it would help if WWE ignored naysayers when that happens and play out the angles to completion regardless, but the problem then becomes "what if the angles do actually just suck?" and not listening to feedback will result in them just running through crappy angles which people also won't want to tune in for. If all the people stopped complaining, the show would probably still suck, it'd just be less like a pinball machine in terms of written direction, it'd just be merely boring and nonsensical instead of boring, nonsensical, and impossible to logically follow.

If they could consistently write and perform solid, decent, logical angles which make sense in-universe and keep things flowing fresh, that'd be great, then they could ignore the fans but have the show still be good for the majority. But they can't and they apparently don't, so we get the cycle we have right now, where WWE keeps throwing stuff at the wall haphazardly, the audience raises an eyebrow and asks wtf is this supposed to be? WWE shitcans it and tries something else lazy and haphazardly, the audience reacts poorly again. It goes on and on and on, they have to break the cycle by producing high quality angles, week after week, which have continuity, make sense, and are entertaining.

I hate to bring up NXT all the time, but there's a reason NXT gets the benefit of the doubt at least 70% of the time. They do whiff on some things (like the Ciampa/Gargano feud after Takeover: New Orleans and the Dakota Kai vs. Tegan Nox feud), but more often than not they get shit right. People have been burned by Raw for so long now, I don't blame anyone for shitting on it already.

Yeah, I can't really speak for NXT as I haven't watched it (its existence has largely coincided with my period of not really watching WWE), but from what I hear it's a lot better structured and besides main roster call-ups being kind of a disaster it's appreciated for its differences, particularly pre-Wednesday Night War era. Which, whilst I don't actually watch it myself because of my general meh-ness about WWE product in general, I am genuinely glad to hear.

I know WWE, or at least some of the people in it, is/are capable of putting out great stuff, even the main roster shows manage it occasionally, I really do want more of that, I don't like to be all "anything with a WWE logo on it totally sucks" because that's not true. I often have negative things to say, there's a lot of negative aspects to talk about, but I'm willing and happy to give praise where it's due and I hope the same from everybody else. Obviously it's fine to just not like RAW, or Smackdown, or even NXT, everyone has their tastes, that's cool, but even crappy wrestling companies/shows have something in them that's worth giving a thumbs up to, and I think WWE is just as deserving of that as any other when they show promise. I just wish they did it more often, it's frustrating knowing the potential they (still) have and I'd love for them to make it harder for me to find things to dislike, I want it to be good.

There's a reason I'm still here talking about it, right? If I didn't care at all, or I thought wrestling (or WWE in particular) had no redeeming qualities then I'd have stopped thinking about it long ago.

[Duke Cameron]

I want Asuka and Io to be the faces of the women’s divisions.

[Wieners=$$$]

Kushida to become an actual time-traveler.

At least it's an excuse to where he's been!


Think about it. He could use the power of history to win matches, like how Bill & Ted used history to win matches.

[Sponsored by Groose Wipes]

I want to not be ashamed of wrestling anymore. WWE is REALLY making that hard.

[Zenengage]