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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 0:50:52 GMT -5
I just want them to show Shane snorting coke with one of the dancers to put over how cool and edgy Raw Underground is.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 0:55:23 GMT -5
I just want them to show Shane snorting coke with one of the dancers to put over how cool and edgy Raw Underground is. How about they just snort cacao? Cesaro could probably find 'em the perfect blend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 1:01:35 GMT -5
I really don't see the issue with this.
I feel like some people get offended at the idea of women being "sexy" at all these days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 1:01:38 GMT -5
Who do they think they are? TNA? So hornswoggle going to come back and jerk off on RAW?
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Post by ssdrivin on Aug 4, 2020 1:06:31 GMT -5
I just want them to show Shane snorting coke with one of the dancers to put over how cool and edgy Raw Underground is.
Not that I would go as far as to say this is a good idea, but in the hypothetical context of this being an underground fight club I wouldn't actually mind a bit more roughness. Some APA style drinking, maybe some implied drug use (I don't think the sponsors would be too keen on seeing Shane hoover up a couple of fat rails live on air), a bit of gambling, that sort of thing. They've already got the exotic dancers, and it's a fight club, you could make a pretty good guess that the sort of people who go there aren't all straight laced and proper.
I say this in the context of this being a fictional fight club, aside from it being WWE. It wouldn't necessarily be a surprise to see such things in a movie which covered an underground club of some kind, so why not here too? I mean, other than WWE likely not knowing how to handle some of that slightly more adult subject matter in a way that doesn't involve being wacky and over the top and making a big deal out of it.
But it is the last hour of RAW, previously known for being the edgier part of RAW, and it's after 10pm, so... y'know, maybe there's room for a bit more "boisterous underground adults enjoying a club" energy in there?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Aug 4, 2020 1:15:51 GMT -5
The dancers weren't even the issue, it was the constant nauseating cuts back to them that were the issue. Like they didnt make any sense nor add to the atmosphere it was just a mess of "the ring the girls the ring the girls the ring the girls" over the course of ten seconds.
I alsoa agree them just dancing in place even when people weren't watching them made them feel like NPC's in a game
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 1:16:49 GMT -5
I just want them to show Shane snorting coke with one of the dancers to put over how cool and edgy Raw Underground is. Not that I would go as far as to say this is a good idea, but in the hypothetical context of this being an underground fight club I wouldn't actually mind a bit more roughness. Some APA style drinking, maybe some implied drug use (I don't think the sponsors would be too keen on seeing Shane hoover up a couple of fat rails live on air), a bit of gambling, that sort of thing. They've already got the exotic dancers, and it's a fight club, you could make a pretty good guess that the sort of people who go there aren't all straight laced and proper. I say this in the context of this being a fictional fight club, aside from it being WWE. It wouldn't necessarily be a surprise to see such things in a movie which covered an underground club of some kind, so why not here too? I mean, other than WWE likely not knowing how to handle some of that slightly more adult subject matter in a way that doesn't involve being wacky and over the top and making a big deal out of it. But it is the last hour of RAW, previously known for being the edgier part of RAW, and it's after 10pm, so... y'know, maybe there's room for a bit more "boisterous underground adults enjoying a club" energy in there?
I just want to say I laughed out loud at this part.
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Post by ssdrivin on Aug 4, 2020 1:18:16 GMT -5
Not that I would go as far as to say this is a good idea, but in the hypothetical context of this being an underground fight club I wouldn't actually mind a bit more roughness. Some APA style drinking, maybe some implied drug use (I don't think the sponsors would be too keen on seeing Shane hoover up a couple of fat rails live on air), a bit of gambling, that sort of thing. They've already got the exotic dancers, and it's a fight club, you could make a pretty good guess that the sort of people who go there aren't all straight laced and proper. I say this in the context of this being a fictional fight club, aside from it being WWE. It wouldn't necessarily be a surprise to see such things in a movie which covered an underground club of some kind, so why not here too? I mean, other than WWE likely not knowing how to handle some of that slightly more adult subject matter in a way that doesn't involve being wacky and over the top and making a big deal out of it. But it is the last hour of RAW, previously known for being the edgier part of RAW, and it's after 10pm, so... y'know, maybe there's room for a bit more "boisterous underground adults enjoying a club" energy in there?
I just want to say I laughed out loud at this part.
Haha, glad it amused you, it was fun to type too
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 4, 2020 1:32:17 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 1:37:55 GMT -5
I would not want to let down Dead Ass Girls. Maybe I'll sign this after I wake up.
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Post by Kalmia on Aug 4, 2020 1:41:15 GMT -5
If someone wants to be an exotic dancer (or stripper or sex worker etc) and it's their free choice, then good for them. They shouldn't be thought less of or mocked for that.
But this is pro wrestling. The dancers served no purpose other than as window dressing to be ogled at. Some of the female wrestlers wear less and act sexy, but they're also wrestlers. These women were just presented as objects to drool over—that's the problem.
Now, if we get a women's match and there are male dancers in skimpy clothes dancing away for no reason then I'll take my criticism back because at least then it's equal opportunities objectification. I doubt that'll happen though.
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Post by eJm on Aug 4, 2020 1:43:35 GMT -5
If someone wants to be an exotic dancer (or stripper or sex worker etc) and it's their free choice, then good for them. They shouldn't be thought less of or mocked for that. But this is pro wrestling. The dancers served no purpose other than as window dressing to be ogled at. Some of the female wrestlers wear less and act sexy, but they're also wrestlers. These women were just presented as objects to drool over—that's the problem. Now, if we get a women's match and there are male dancers in skimpy clothes dancing away for no reason then I'll take my criticism back because at least then it's equal opportunities objectification. I doubt that'll happen though. I think that’s kind of it for me. Like, no judgement for anyone who takes the gig or anything like that but...have some sexy male dancers too. Like, it’s 2020, there are gay men and bisexuals watching. Give them some other eye candy too if you’re going to do it or not do it at all. And yeah, AEW’s the same way. Give me a woman lifeguard and a male lifeguard at Bash in the Beach. Go for it.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 4, 2020 1:44:14 GMT -5
Maybe they could give an intern the job of finding pics of David Otunga to put up on the walls to even things out a bit?
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Aug 4, 2020 1:47:08 GMT -5
The woman's champ(s) can at least run the ropes. We're fine.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2020 1:50:15 GMT -5
If someone wants to be an exotic dancer (or stripper or sex worker etc) and it's their free choice, then good for them. They shouldn't be thought less of or mocked for that. But this is pro wrestling. The dancers served no purpose other than as window dressing to be ogled at. Some of the female wrestlers wear less and act sexy, but they're also wrestlers. These women were just presented as objects to drool over—that's the problem. Now, if we get a women's match and there are male dancers in skimpy clothes dancing away for no reason then I'll take my criticism back because at least then it's equal opportunities objectification. I doubt that'll happen though. I think that’s kind of it for me. Like, no judgement for anyone who takes the gig or anything like that but...have some sexy male dancers too. Like, it’s 2020, there are gay men and bisexuals watching. Give them some other eye candy too if you’re going to do it or not do it at all. And yeah, AEW’s the same way. Give me a woman lifeguard and a male lifeguard at Bash in the Beach. Go for it.I'm expecting this to happen at SummerSlam, if it's outside venue.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Aug 4, 2020 3:34:07 GMT -5
Who do they think they are? TNA? Well they are getting closer and close to the fabled 1.1 rating
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Post by bearned on Aug 4, 2020 4:10:07 GMT -5
I thought people would have a problem with it but maybe that was the point? The whole Shane thing was dumb and stupid (and I must admit I thought it was awesome till the end with MVP and his crew) so maybe there was some nuance to the story, like Shane was just dicking us around with what he *thinks* appeals to the hardcore fans but it’s actually really more over produced WWE stuff.
Probably giving way too much credit to the people who wrote this though.
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Post by 3cheers4ramirez on Aug 4, 2020 4:14:44 GMT -5
They were barely on-screen for more than a second at a time and about as PG-13 as club dancers could possibly get. This is a stretch I think.
There are at least four or five women on the roster who wear less clothes and are regularly 'ogled' at.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 4, 2020 4:46:48 GMT -5
I thought the whole point was that Shane's stupid fight club was weird and sleazy compared to the rest of raw?
To be honest I'm more wondering why the hell they brought in more outside workers while we're supposed to be social distancing.
Also, dancing and stripping are real professions that aren't shameful.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Aug 4, 2020 4:52:49 GMT -5
So let me get this straight. The male wrestlers who are mostly in good shape, are pretty good looking guys, and wrestle in very little clothes aren't eye candy? I'm pretty sure there are plenty of people who enjoy ogling the men while they wrestle. What I'm saying is, just because the men aren't trying to be sexy, doesn't mean they don't come off as sexy to lots of fans of any gender. Which is just fine by me. And I say this as a secure heterosexual male.
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