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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 20, 2022 18:20:35 GMT -5
because Bandido never lost the title, nor was he ever officially stripped of it, so he maintains he's still the rightful champion
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Post by eJm on Jan 20, 2022 20:08:43 GMT -5
Okay, I definitely get going with that match, I take no issue with that. But why on earth is ROH recognising Bandido as also being a legitimate champion? That part makes no sense. Jonathan Gresham is very clearly the only actual champion between the two. I mean...is he? As pointed out, they didn't strip him of the actual belt, nor was it the prize in the match between Gresham and Lethal (it was the "original" ROH title) and since neither was the case, Bandido is the actual legitimate champion and Gresham the interim without the name.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 22, 2022 17:36:18 GMT -5
from this week's Eck's Files:
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Post by DSR on Jan 22, 2022 23:11:04 GMT -5
Earlier today, IMPACT Wrestling put the Jonathan Gresham/Steve Maclin ROH World Title Match up on their Youtube:
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Post by DSR on Jan 24, 2022 15:34:48 GMT -5
The "This Is Women's Wrestling" documentary that aired as last week's ROH TV episode will be put up on Youtube UNCUT this Thursday night.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 25, 2022 15:16:35 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Jan 26, 2022 10:48:07 GMT -5
I mean, if it were me doing a class, I'd have...
Samoa Joe/CM Punk (one headline the first class, the other headlines the second) Christopher Daniels Cary Silkin Lacey Prince Nana
Chris Hero might be a good choice, too, but I also wanted it to be an all-around class and not just flood it with names from the off. Like, if she wasn't in WWE, Sara Del Ray would be in for me in a heartbeat.
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Post by chronocross on Jan 26, 2022 10:57:35 GMT -5
A lot of guys from the old days of ROH I can think of that can go in (spaced out over various years):
Samoa Joe CM Punk Homicide (w/Julius Smokes) Bryan Danielson Nigel McGuinness Prince Nana/Jimmy Rave GenNext
Edit: I forgot about Christopher Daniels and Low-Ki (provided he is professional and doesn't cause any drama)
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 26, 2022 11:20:54 GMT -5
Curious how they're looking to organize this; get a bunch of the bigger known names right away, reward longevity, focus on the "founding generation", etc.?
Like, it'd be easy to say the first class should be the guys who largely rebuilt the company after the Feinstein insanity in 2004, with Joe, Punk, Dragon, and Homicide being the core of that. It'd also be easy to say that Chris Daniels needs to be in there given how important he was to establishing the promotion's credibility from day one. On sheer longevity and accomplishments it's very easy to make cases for Lethal and the Briscoes going in early.
Damn, trying to put a first class together is honestly tough as hell, so yeah, curious what the criteria's gonna be for the first group.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 26, 2022 13:54:30 GMT -5
Curious how they're looking to organize this; get a bunch of the bigger known names right away, reward longevity, focus on the "founding generation", etc.? Like, it'd be easy to say the first class should be the guys who largely rebuilt the company after the Feinstein insanity in 2004, with Joe, Punk, Dragon, and Homicide being the core of that. It'd also be easy to say that Chris Daniels needs to be in there given how important he was to establishing the promotion's credibility from day one. On sheer longevity and accomplishments it's very easy to make cases for Lethal and the Briscoes going in early. Damn, trying to put a first class together is honestly tough as hell, so yeah, curious what the criteria's gonna be for the first group. Xavier and Daffney will likely be in, but it might be depressing to have two deceased inductees in the same Hall of Fame class, so I'm not sure which one is first. I guess their announcements could be spaced out as a compromise. Edit: Jimmy Rave definitely needs to be inducted.
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Jan 26, 2022 14:01:26 GMT -5
Prince Nana Paul London Low Ki (first champ) Lacey CM Punk
That’s my list for first class. London was so integral to the first year of ROH that I think it only right he get his due.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Jan 26, 2022 14:31:53 GMT -5
Joe or Danielson are the only two acceptable headliners for the first class. a lot of people have done big things in ROH, but they achieved a Hogan/Austin/Cena level where they were bigger than the world title and were the embodiment of the promotion
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Post by eJm on Jan 26, 2022 14:33:09 GMT -5
Joe or Danielson are the only two acceptable headliners for the first class. a lot of people have done big things in ROH, but they achieved a Hogan/Austin/Cena level where they were bigger than the world title and were the embodiment of the promotion And they then went on to change perception in American mainstream wrestling which is not a minor achievement.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 26, 2022 14:52:59 GMT -5
Briscoes CD Danielson Homicide
Are my guesses, but wouldn’t be shocked to see Lethal, Joe or Punk in there.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 28, 2022 11:07:27 GMT -5
Maybe they couldn't find one but if this is going to be your setup, you should probably run a smaller arena:
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Post by DSR on Jan 28, 2022 14:21:16 GMT -5
Some news on the relaunch (writeup from the Observer site): As part of a relaunch that kicks off in April, Ring of Honor will focus on both the men's and women's World titles and the Tag Team titles. Bryan Alvarez first reported the news on Monday's Wrestling Observer Live. Alvarez said that the three different titles will continue to be defended in various promotions like GCW and Impact as has been the case recently and that Ring of Honor has the rights to air those matches on their weekly TV show, essentially making them "old-school touring World champions" as he put it. It's likely to be mid-March when those matches will begin to air on ROH's weekly TV show on Sinclair. This news also means that the Pure title, the TV title and Six-Man titles will go dormant as they will no longer be defended. Little late getting to this news, but back on the 22nd, Rhett Titus wrestled Josh Woods at United Elite Wrestling's Ignition show, with the UEW World and ROH Pure and TV titles on the line...? I'm assuming this isn't a "sanctioned" ROH title match like the ones Gresham has been having. Also, despite the event taking place a week ago, I can't find results. *shrug* www.facebook.com/UNITETHEELITE/posts/1110322059743496
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jan 28, 2022 23:14:00 GMT -5
Maybe they couldn't find one but if this is going to be your setup, you should probably run a smaller arena: It's not a bad set up, the floor space there is huge. I'm not sure how it looks on AEW but being there live the floor looks empty even with 20 or rows of chairs. It's also much better than the hotel they ran SCoH last WM weekend here, while bigger and/or nicer than the other the other places they've run here.
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Post by DSR on Jan 29, 2022 3:50:18 GMT -5
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Post by ianriccaboni on Jan 29, 2022 7:57:19 GMT -5
Hello! Come ask me things!
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Post by HMARK Center on Jan 29, 2022 12:18:04 GMT -5
Maybe they couldn't find one but if this is going to be your setup, you should probably run a smaller arena: It's not a bad set up, the floor space there is huge. I'm not sure how it looks on AEW but being there live the floor looks empty even with 20 or rows of chairs. It's also much better than the hotel they ran SCoH last WM weekend here, while bigger and/or nicer than the other the other places they've run here. Plus there are some times when larger venues are willing to give more cost efficient deals to shows than smaller, more intimate venues do. There was that time TNA ran in the Alamodome or whichever one it was, and it was easy to make fun of how small a portion of it they used, but it’s likely they saved a lot of money by using it.
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