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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 24, 2021 12:39:35 GMT -5
And yet they're clearly setting up Cesaro to be the next one up and setting Roman up for the upset. Knowing how WWE works, even I don’t have faith in that happening. I think that’s kind of the beauty of it: It feels like Cesaro might have a shot for an upset. Also very likely Roman will win. But I think there’s enough leeway there to think he can do it.
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Post by thechase on Apr 24, 2021 12:44:37 GMT -5
That potential misery booking people were worried about? Yeah next week if he beats Daniel Bryan, Danel Bryan is banished from Smackdown forever I'd say that's the apex of that worry. Could be this is where Daniel bows out to be a family guy for a while, or he migrates over to NXT
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Apr 24, 2021 13:06:23 GMT -5
Is he still doing well? I don't watch the product but I always rooted for him to do well, especially with the heel run He’s doing generally well, but I see people here upset with the invincible heel run being symptomatic of WWE’s “misery booking”. I’d love to figure out how close they actually are to the sweet spot. Like, let’s be honest, the champion really shouldn’t be taking clean losses on TV in non-title matches or getting laid out that often, as I’m led to believe by people’s reactions when that stuff happens on a regular basis to other champions. Hell, with all the times he’s been bailed out by Jey Uso or Paul Heyman, this is arguably the weakest Reigns has ever been booked. Does it really just boil down to “He doesn’t get laid out on TV enough”? Because there’s a really fine line between not enough and enough, and enough and too much. There’s also the issue of... They could be booking everything absolutely perfectly, but you just know he’s not dropping the belt until it is a show with a live crowd (and that’s not expected to happen until SummerSlam in August). I just don’t know what WWE could do to rectify THAT short of giving someone such a massive win on a show with no crowd with a name like “WrestleMania Backlash”. I guess they made their choice by not doing that at WrestleMania when they could, so it’s their bed to lie in.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 24, 2021 22:29:02 GMT -5
He’s doing generally well, but I see people here upset with the invincible heel run being symptomatic of WWE’s “misery booking”. I’d love to figure out how close they actually are to the sweet spot. Like, let’s be honest, the champion really shouldn’t be taking clean losses on TV in non-title matches or getting laid out that often, as I’m led to believe by people’s reactions when that stuff happens on a regular basis to other champions. Hell, with all the times he’s been bailed out by Jey Uso or Paul Heyman, this is arguably the weakest Reigns has ever been booked. Does it really just boil down to “He doesn’t get laid out on TV enough”? Because there’s a really fine line between not enough and enough, and enough and too much. There’s also the issue of... They could be booking everything absolutely perfectly, but you just know he’s not dropping the belt until it is a show with a live crowd (and that’s not expected to happen until SummerSlam in August). I just don’t know what WWE could do to rectify THAT short of giving someone such a massive win on a show with no crowd with a name like “WrestleMania Backlash”. I guess they made their choice by not doing that at WrestleMania when they could, so it’s their bed to lie in. It has been booked perfectly for me Despite Roman walking around like a GOD, he's not necessarily OP. He gets his ass whooped and has looked vulnerable much more than I expected him to. The legit complaint I can see is the reliance on Jey Uso as a continuous interference crutch in his matches Roman is on TV every week but he doesn't feel played out as a champion and it helps he's not always wrestling either
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 22:46:00 GMT -5
Roman to me is my idea of the perfect heel champion. He's not like AJ Styles where he was booked to be so strong you couldn't see him ever being defeated due to Vince's love for him, mind you AJ did shit himself. He's not like Lesnar where he was indestructible that no matter what you did you couldn't phase him. He's not too weak like Miz where him being world champion was such a joke that we knew he'd be beaten easily. He's in that spot where he's great in the ring but everything he's faced can reasonably beat him. The only reason they haven't is because of the Jey Uso stipulation and luckily with this Cesaro feud they seem to finally have picked up on that. The issue here is that Jimmy's ready to come back so Jimmy might still cause an issue and if he does? Then that means you need 2 guys to help you defeat Reigns rather than just 1. Who got 2 guys to help?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 24, 2021 22:48:52 GMT -5
Roman to me is my idea of the perfect heel champion. He's not like AJ Styles where he was booked to be so strong you couldn't see him ever being defeated due to Vince's love for him, mind you AJ did shit himself. He's not like Lesnar where he was indestructible that no matter what you did you couldn't phase him. He's not too weak like Miz where him being world champion was such a joke that we knew he'd be beaten easily. He's in that spot where he's great in the ring but everything he's faced can reasonably beat him. The only reason they haven't is because of the Jey Uso stipulation and luckily with this Cesaro feud they seem to finally have picked up on that. The issue here is that Jimmy's ready to come back so Jimmy might still cause an issue and if he does? Then that means you need 2 guys to help you defeat Reigns rather than just 1. Who got 2 guys to help? Yeah, I been saying from jump Big E is the one coming for Roman and he has the backup to even the odds plus the history with The Usos to play off of
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 22:57:31 GMT -5
Roman to me is my idea of the perfect heel champion. He's not like AJ Styles where he was booked to be so strong you couldn't see him ever being defeated due to Vince's love for him, mind you AJ did shit himself. He's not like Lesnar where he was indestructible that no matter what you did you couldn't phase him. He's not too weak like Miz where him being world champion was such a joke that we knew he'd be beaten easily. He's in that spot where he's great in the ring but everything he's faced can reasonably beat him. The only reason they haven't is because of the Jey Uso stipulation and luckily with this Cesaro feud they seem to finally have picked up on that. The issue here is that Jimmy's ready to come back so Jimmy might still cause an issue and if he does? Then that means you need 2 guys to help you defeat Reigns rather than just 1. Who got 2 guys to help? Yeah, I been saying from jump Big E is the one coming for Roman and he has the backup to even the odds plus the history with The Usos to play off of It makes the most sense. I mean even in the current scenario I can see there being a chance Cesaro wins but then Reigns gets it back immediately once Jimmy comes back, who knows but one thing's for sure, this whole thing is made for Big E to rise up and win. Somehow, someway. He'll rise up.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 24, 2021 22:59:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I been saying from jump Big E is the one coming for Roman and he has the backup to even the odds plus the history with The Usos to play off of It makes the most sense. I mean even in the current scenario I can see there being a chance Cesaro wins but then Reigns gets it back immediately once Jimmy comes back, who knows but one thing's for sure, this whole thing is made for Big E to rise up and win. Somehow, someway. He'll rise up. I think if Cesaro or DB were to win against Roman it would be a Luger moment where they get the title for maybe 2 weeks and drops it back to Roman
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 23:02:45 GMT -5
It makes the most sense. I mean even in the current scenario I can see there being a chance Cesaro wins but then Reigns gets it back immediately once Jimmy comes back, who knows but one thing's for sure, this whole thing is made for Big E to rise up and win. Somehow, someway. He'll rise up. I think if Cesaro or DB were to win against Roman it would be a Luger moment where they get the title for maybe 2 weeks and drops it back to Roman Exactly. They'd setup a rematch immediately, attack Cesaro before the match started so he'd be weakened, Reigns wins the belt back, just do something so that people would hate Reigns more.
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Post by Chiral on Apr 24, 2021 23:15:37 GMT -5
He’s doing generally well, but I see people here upset with the invincible heel run being symptomatic of WWE’s “misery booking”. I’d love to figure out how close they actually are to the sweet spot. Like, let’s be honest, the champion really shouldn’t be taking clean losses on TV in non-title matches or getting laid out that often, as I’m led to believe by people’s reactions when that stuff happens on a regular basis to other champions. Hell, with all the times he’s been bailed out by Jey Uso or Paul Heyman, this is arguably the weakest Reigns has ever been booked. Does it really just boil down to “He doesn’t get laid out on TV enough”? Because there’s a really fine line between not enough and enough, and enough and too much. There’s also the issue of... They could be booking everything absolutely perfectly, but you just know he’s not dropping the belt until it is a show with a live crowd (and that’s not expected to happen until SummerSlam in August). I just don’t know what WWE could do to rectify THAT short of giving someone such a massive win on a show with no crowd with a name like “WrestleMania Backlash”. I guess they made their choice by not doing that at WrestleMania when they could, so it’s their bed to lie in. For me he just needs to have a finish that isn't just Jey bailing him out and to have some actual setback on TV. That doesn't necessarily mean a beat down, like give him something where he can be legitimately bested and taken off his feet for once as a character, because it's been like nine months of him barely facing any consequence for anything. Pearce outplayed him once...by putting him against Owens for a rematch, which Roman shook off like it was nothing a week later and beat Pearce down. The dude needs something like Angle's milk truck moment, like some moment where the pie is on his face for once instead of him having all the chess moves ready. LIKE give him something like an anime moment where he thinks he's beaten the hero but they've actually moved three chess moves ahead past his two. And it's not like Roman isn't capable of it as in his matches he IS totally vulnerable and most of the time he's barely getting by, they just all fall prey to the booking necessitating Jey interfering for the finish every time.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 24, 2021 23:26:16 GMT -5
I’d love to figure out how close they actually are to the sweet spot. Like, let’s be honest, the champion really shouldn’t be taking clean losses on TV in non-title matches or getting laid out that often, as I’m led to believe by people’s reactions when that stuff happens on a regular basis to other champions. Hell, with all the times he’s been bailed out by Jey Uso or Paul Heyman, this is arguably the weakest Reigns has ever been booked. Does it really just boil down to “He doesn’t get laid out on TV enough”? Because there’s a really fine line between not enough and enough, and enough and too much. There’s also the issue of... They could be booking everything absolutely perfectly, but you just know he’s not dropping the belt until it is a show with a live crowd (and that’s not expected to happen until SummerSlam in August). I just don’t know what WWE could do to rectify THAT short of giving someone such a massive win on a show with no crowd with a name like “WrestleMania Backlash”. I guess they made their choice by not doing that at WrestleMania when they could, so it’s their bed to lie in. For me he just needs to have a finish that isn't just Jey bailing him out and to have some actual setback on TV. That doesn't necessarily mean a beat down, like give him something where he can be legitimately bested and taken off his feet for once as a character, because it's been like nine months of him barely facing any consequence for anything. Pearce outplayed him once...by putting him against Owens for a rematch, which Roman shook off like it was nothing a week later and beat Pearce down. The dude needs something like Angle's milk truck moment, like some moment where the pie is on his face for once instead of him having all the chess moves ready. LIKE give him something like an anime moment where he thinks he's beaten the hero but they've actually moved three chess moves ahead past his two. And it's not like Roman isn't capable of it as in his matches he IS totally vulnerable and most of the time he's barely getting by, they just all fall prey to the booking necessitating Jey interfering for the finish every time. Best scenario would be a babyface challenger getting ahead of Roman’s reliance on Jey and whoopin’ that boy’s ass backstage before the title match.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Apr 30, 2021 21:46:45 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Apr 30, 2021 21:49:43 GMT -5
As stated he needs to take some sort of roadblock... he hasn't for over half a year... he doesn't have to lose but he hasn't had any issues with like anything. At the very least this long in we shouldn't still be having the Roman's opponent has him almost beat and then Jey/Heyman interfere on his behalf. The faces or the people making the matches should have had an answer to that by now. I could do without the rip off of O Fortuna at in the beginning... rest is... ok.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 30, 2021 21:55:07 GMT -5
Theme was fine
This reigns booking however? Has gotten super old, super fast
The endless heat is agony.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 21:55:51 GMT -5
That new theeemmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeee ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy aaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
smoking on that Bryan pack ayyyyyyyyyyy
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Post by Cyno on Apr 30, 2021 22:00:33 GMT -5
He desperately needed his own theme that wasn't just The Shield's theme without the NATO phonetic alphabet intro.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Apr 30, 2021 22:01:15 GMT -5
CESARO COMING FOR YOU, BIG DAWG
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 30, 2021 22:20:45 GMT -5
I’m down for Cesaro for getting a flash one week title reign but as I been saying from jump the big dawg will not go down until summerslam when Big E takes him out
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 30, 2021 22:26:19 GMT -5
I really like that his new theme still has a bit of the Shield theme in it
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on May 3, 2021 21:00:09 GMT -5
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