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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 13:52:14 GMT -5
What's the difference between Dwyane "The Rock" Johnson appearing in films, and other "Sports Entertainers" appearing on a different platform to make a living? Am I mistaken that he was under a WWE contract while filming early in his acting career? Is this some kind of "special permission" BS? Well, a big difference is The Rock was THE top guy when he started appearing in movies, so he had way more power to tell Vince to f*** off, your midcarders who have a side hustle are interchangeable cogs so Vince can threaten them. Also, it's not like this is the first time. Once he was in movies, how long did The Rock reeeeally stick around? Anyone who's had any success has been straight out of there. It's extra noticeable if you look at the history of women in the company, Maria on The Apprentice and Stacy Keibler on Dancing with the Stars both got heat for doing well outside the bubble and were released around those times. Those seasons were the only time I watched either of those shows. It works both ways. I tuned into shows I would normally never watch to see WWE performances, then fans of DWtS or The Apprentice tune into WWE to see Stacy or Maria... but WWE being WWE instead of using to this promotion to feature them and bringing in new fans both are punished, not featured and quickly released. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 13:54:48 GMT -5
If Amazon isn't willing to hash out a deal with HBO Max they're sure as hell not going to want to give a substantial cut of anything to WWE. WWE might be able to make some money from Twitch but not enough to mean anything whatsoever compared to their existing revenue streams.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Sept 5, 2020 14:16:21 GMT -5
What's the difference between Dwyane "The Rock" Johnson appearing in films, and other "Sports Entertainers" appearing on a different platform to make a living? Am I mistaken that he was under a WWE contract while filming early in his acting career? Is this some kind of "special permission" BS? Well, a big difference is The Rock was THE top guy when he started appearing in movies, so he had way more power to tell Vince to f*** off, your midcarders who have a side hustle are interchangeable cogs so Vince can threaten them. Also, it's not like this is the first time. Once he was in movies, how long did The Rock reeeeally stick around? Anyone who's had any success has been straight out of there. It's extra noticeable if you look at the history of women in the company, Maria on The Apprentice and Stacy Keibler on Dancing with the Stars both got heat for doing well outside the bubble and were released around those times. Didn't Vince McMahon get a producer credit on Rock's early movies? I think he got a slice of the pie while Rock was under contract but doing other projects. |
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Post by Citizen Snips on Sept 5, 2020 14:18:30 GMT -5
1. Wow, "control and exploitation". Nice word choice when everyone's calling you an evil corporate overlord. 2. YOU WILL NEVER BE DISNEY, VINCE. STOP TRYING TO COMPARE YOUR PRO WRESTLING COMPANY TO DISNEY. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 5, 2020 14:29:05 GMT -5
It's actually some special kind of lunacy to respond to "Hey why are you keeping the people who wrestle for you from streaming on twitch or using TikTok?" with "Well you see, much like Disney"
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Sept 5, 2020 14:29:16 GMT -5
I REALLY WANNA SEE CONTROL AND EXPLOITATION IN THE WWE BOARD BLURB FOR FUNSIES GOING FORWARD I'M GONNA BUG OUR NEW ADMIN UNTIL IT HAPPENS >:8( |
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Post by Perd on Sept 5, 2020 14:31:56 GMT -5
Guys, I can’t seem to find my escape goat. Do those damn things ever live up to their names.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2020 14:35:22 GMT -5
It's a pretty bold move defending against people calling you exploitative by openly declaring that you're exploiting people.
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Post by honsou on Sept 5, 2020 14:37:46 GMT -5
The biggest difference is that Disney and WB aren't stopping actors from doing their own thing. As long as Chris Evans is just...being himself he can do whatever he wants outside of the Avengers films. This deal seems to imply that anyone who wrestles for WWE is on the clock 24/7 which is...I'm not sure if its exactly illegal but its certainly something |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Sept 5, 2020 14:38:48 GMT -5
Guys, I can’t seem to find my escape goat. Do those damn things ever live up to their names. yours has, it took plan B and gave you a map to distract you while doing a runner. |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 5, 2020 14:40:20 GMT -5
Ya know, I'm almost kinda thinking that Vince himself wrote up that explanation. Who else would use exploitation as a word to explain themselves to the public when other words could be used instead that won't sound completely off?
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Sept 5, 2020 14:40:30 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 5, 2020 14:40:33 GMT -5
I can buy Miro owning an escape goat.
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Post by The Captain on Sept 5, 2020 14:41:47 GMT -5
The biggest difference is that Disney and WB aren't stopping actors from doing their own thing. As long as Chris Evans is just...being himself he can do whatever he wants outside of the Avengers films. This deal seems to imply that anyone who wrestles for WWE is on the clock 24/7 which is...I'm not sure if its exactly illegal but its certainly something Actors who work for WB and Disney are also part of a union that collectively bargains for a number of things. And have agents that negotiate deals in good faith with the studios. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 5, 2020 14:43:36 GMT -5
It's actually some special kind of lunacy to respond to "Hey why are you keeping the people who wrestle for you from streaming on twitch or using TikTok?" with "Well you see, much like Disney" There's something I want to say, but can't quite come up with the proper words to say what I want to say in the way I wish to say it, that sounds authentically like me. There's a lot to it. But I guess the part that I can say is that while I kind of understand why Vince feels how he does (don't take that to mean that I agree with him, however), he needs to get over himself. And that he's certainly not confident in his own abilities as a businessman anymore if he's that opposed to his contracted talent making a side business/brand off of their legal names. The rest... the rest I'm still lacking ability to put the proper words/emotions into. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 5, 2020 14:44:46 GMT -5
Looks like Lana's mad at what Meltzer said. Its not like she would know if she was either  But I sure some people went after her for it,which is stupid even if it was confirmed(it isnt). |
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 5, 2020 14:45:24 GMT -5
Not much to add, simply that I also think this is just a phenomenally stupid move.
The whole independent contractor thing has always felt like shaky ground as it is, and drawing more attention to it with a "have your cake and eat it" thing like this is nuts.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 5, 2020 14:47:37 GMT -5
I can buy Miro owning an escape goat.  is Jerigoat an Escape Goat? |
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 5, 2020 14:49:48 GMT -5
Also, all this Escape Goat talk reminds me of an indy game titled Escape Goat.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 5, 2020 14:50:27 GMT -5
Also, all this Escape Goat talk reminds me of an indy game titled Escape Goat. I have been meaning to play Escape Goat 2 for a while. |
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