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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Sept 6, 2020 1:56:52 GMT -5
Like, I understand if you don't want them to go by their stage names. That part I can at least understand. But to interfere with their personal lives and livelihood - what these independent contractors who don't get health insurance coverage do on their own time away from their job, is bullshit. I know many of them are well-off and don't *need* this, but that doesn't matter. It's the principle of it, and it's for the smaller acts who actually do live in apartments and aren't, say, Randy Orton. I hope they stand up to it and challenge it.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Sept 6, 2020 2:12:07 GMT -5
He has also in younger years been this way when he realises he doesn't get a cut from everything they do. The most prominent example may be the fall of King Kong Bundy from Wrestlemania main eventer to released jobber. Bundy got 1987 a commercial offer from a Dutch computer company. Since it's in Europe, Bundy assumed nobody in wwf will get to know this and he did the ad without going through wwf and them taking a share. However somebody got wind of it, according to Bundy then Vince McMahon got angry at him and soon after he was not even a midcarder anymore.
Isn't the reason SGT Slaughter left in the 80s related to him working out the GI Joe deal without Vince? I think because GI Joes are Hasbro and at the time WWF Figures were LJN |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Sept 6, 2020 2:18:21 GMT -5
Twitching Austin Creed just mentioned he has no further info on ramifications, etc. as no one as contacted him. Comforting to know you potentially losing your livlihood outside of WWE is met with zero communication or contact Seriously dude, get the f*** outta here. WWE Exec: "Shit, the news leaked about Vince's stance on wrestlers using Twitch and Cameo, what do we do?" Vince: "Don't worry, it will be fine." Exec: "Fans aren't happy. This is really bad PR. What are we gonna do?" Vince: "It will blow over" Exec: "I don't think it will. What are we gonna do!?" Vince: "Um... Say nothing, we'll figure something out." |
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Post by ayumidah on Sept 6, 2020 3:11:26 GMT -5
Twitching Austin Creed just mentioned he has no further info on ramifications, etc. as no one as contacted him. one of the reports did say the wrestlers would probably learn more at the tapings this coming week, so I'm not surprised by this, but shit, that's making a lot of people suffer through anxiety and overthinking things for like four or more days while WWE execs sit on their hands, and meander about "control and exploitation" |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2020 3:55:41 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home.
Unbelievable.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 6, 2020 4:14:10 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home. Unbelievable. |
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Post by Heartbreaker on Sept 6, 2020 4:21:22 GMT -5
Shocked Vince hasn't pulled a Mr. Krabs yet.  |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Sept 6, 2020 4:28:39 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home. Unbelievable. I mean... most places will fire you if you use social media in a awy that makes the company look bad... but very few would likely bar you from making money off a twitch channel... |
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 6, 2020 6:31:58 GMT -5
So are we still at the point where we don’t know much other than they don’t want the wrestlers using their character names on third-party platforms? I assume more gets cleared up this week.
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Post by mistery on Sept 6, 2020 6:39:09 GMT -5
Just in case no one watched All Out tonight, Kip Sabian had a very stiff jab at WWE by doing this.  Can't say they didn't earn this. Funny but after last night, AEW would be wise to not take shots at WWE for awhile considering how much of a trainwreck All Out was. The way they handled the Hardy situation was absolutely horrific. |
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Sept 6, 2020 7:14:50 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home. Unbelievable. My company has a social media policy. I'd guess a lot of companies have social media policies. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Sept 6, 2020 7:19:06 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home. Unbelievable. My company has a social media policy. I'd guess a lot of companies have social media policies. WWE doesn’t have a social media policy. And if they do, it’s a pretty shit one from what I’ve seen. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 6, 2020 8:14:15 GMT -5
Imagine any other company telling you what you can and can't do at home. Unbelievable. My company has a social media policy. I'd guess a lot of companies have social media policies. Saying that you can't say shit on twitter that makes the company look bad is not the same as telling people "You can't use this website to play games for the internet" |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2020 8:16:15 GMT -5
I genuinely do t know why Paige switched her twitch name over to Saraya, I'm not sure WWE could even enforce copyright on her stage name given how generic that name is. I'd say it's like just giving an American girl the name Ashley but then I remember they actually did that. Because WWE spent their whole existence demanding talent be one with their character. You wanna separate them?Fine,Paige is on the right, separate them. She isnt Paige anywhere outside of WWE Shows them. |
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Post by polarbearpete on Sept 6, 2020 8:17:08 GMT -5
My company has a social media policy. I'd guess a lot of companies have social media policies. Saying that you can't say shit on twitter that makes the company look bad is not the same as telling people "You can't use this website to play games for the internet" To be fair, we don’t know that’s actually what’s happening. Might just be they can’t do it using WWE trademarked names. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Sept 6, 2020 8:27:23 GMT -5
Saying that you can't say shit on twitter that makes the company look bad is not the same as telling people "You can't use this website to play games for the internet" To be fair, we don’t know that’s actually what’s happening. Might just be they can’t do it using WWE trademarked names. If that was the case I don't see why their official statement would include "Notwithstanding the contractual language, it is imperative for the success of our company to protect our greatest assets and establish partnerships with third parties on a companywide basis, rather than at the individual level, which as a result will provide more value for all involved." This is not the language of one protecting trademarked stage names, in which case they would be talking about people needing to enter deals with third parties without the use of IP owned by the company, and abotu the problems with unauthorized use of company IP. |
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Post by XIII on Sept 6, 2020 8:30:06 GMT -5
My company has a social media policy. I'd guess a lot of companies have social media policies. Saying that you can't say shit on twitter that makes the company look bad is not the same as telling people "You can't use this website to play games for the internet" And they’re not even saying that, it’s more “you can do whatever want as long as we get a cut because we control and exploit you” |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2020 8:30:22 GMT -5
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Sept 6, 2020 11:35:00 GMT -5
Just in case no one watched All Out tonight, Kip Sabian had a very stiff jab at WWE by doing this. Can't say they didn't earn this. What’s really funny is that Khan in the post show presser said that AEW talent would need permission when it came to outside sponsors and partnerships. (Like being in the twitch partner program per se) |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 6, 2020 11:59:57 GMT -5
Just in case no one watched All Out tonight, Kip Sabian had a very stiff jab at WWE by doing this. Can't say they didn't earn this. What’s really funny is that Khan in the post show presser said that AEW talent would need permission when it came to outside sponsors and partnerships. (Like being in the twitch partner program per se) "In response to the official AEW stance on performers using third parties such as Twitch and Cameo, Khan said while he thinks there are some grey areas, he generally supports people using their Twitch and YouTube platforms to monetize their content. He said he would never tell people not to do anything outside of AEW and would not try to stop them." www.f4wonline.com/aew-news/aew-all-out-media-scrum-notes-tony-khan-gives-matt-hardy-update-319501youtu.be/RnAPdkTEKew?t=2729He does talk about sponsorships being something you need to talk with the company,using as example pepsi. He never says anything about twitch partnership program needing permission. |
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