WWE Wrestlers rules for Twitch, New Update pg41

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

For a company that desperately wants WWE to reach outward and gain mainstream appeal, yanking out Cameo, Tik Tok, Youtube, and Twitch from the performers doesn't exactly feel like a "phase of growth" to me.

This is gonna backfire. The Saudi shit was bad enough but not you're impacting wrestlers ability to make money. I don't know if all of them will rise up but some of them are simply not gonna stand for this I imagine, this is gonna end in butting heads.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

I am like 99% sure there is no way to legally own someone elses name.

It's why John Cena can still call himself John Cena everywhere...

if it were at all possible Vince would have locked that down immediately.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

Although, either way, how f***ed to be this stingy with folks making bread in other places during a f***ing pandemic while you just posted record profits in, and I repeat, a f***ING PANDEMIC

[Final Countdown Jones]

Sept 4, 2020 16:50:18 GMT -5 "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik said:

I don't understand how they're banning this because it's detrimental to the product and yet they let Seth keep this Twitter.

Because Seth being a raging shithead yelling at people outside the company gives Vince flashes back to '90s Shawn and it's the only thing that gets anything going in his pants anymore.

[ayumidah]

Sept 4, 2020 16:52:42 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Although, either way, how f***ed to be this stingy with folks making bread in other places during a f***ing pandemic while you just posted record profits in, and I repeat, a f***ING PANDEMIC

well, they're still releasing people too, so I mean we already know how much they really care about that

[rocket]

Why am I not surprised that once again Vince wants the final say as to how talent is represented.

[ada2]

What about guys like AJ Styles then? How does that work with him owning his name and such?

How can they expect there talent to be happy with this decision as well

[Mister Pigwell]

Sept 4, 2020 16:49:15 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

Sept 4, 2020 16:47:12 GMT -5 Mister Pigwell said:

So like, practically every outlet has confirmed it.

I'm betting someone impacted by this, or maybe more than one, were quick to out this bs to the dirt sheets.

Yeah this 100% reads to me as something that couldn't have spread as fast as it did without someone quite pissed about it droppoing dime to every outlet they could think of.

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Sept 4, 2020 16:44:26 GMT -5 Richard said:

Sept 4, 2020 16:40:52 GMT -5 @nyg1970 said:

This better not mean the end of the upupdowndown channel 😡

I think WWE owns that so it should be safe.


Here's PWInsider article:

WWE INFORMS TALENTS THEY CANNOT USE THEIR OWN NAMES AND LIKENESS WITH 'THIRD PARTIES' IF WWE DEEMS IT 'DETRIMENTAL' TO COMPANY
by Mike Johnson @ 5:27 PM on 9/4/2020

World Wrestling Entertainment notified their talents yesterday via email that going forward, talents whio are using their “name and likeness in ways that are detrimental” to WWE with "third parties" must cease doing so by Friday 10/2 and if they do not, they risk fines, suspension or termination going forward.

The vague wording of the email has already led to a lot of talent concerns over what exactly is now allowed and what isn’t. Some talents have already reacted negatively to the request, feeling it was in effect an order to shut down their personal streaming channels (since Twitch, YouTube, etc. could be considered a "third party"), although there is no confirmation that is actually the case.

The belief is there will be more explained to talents at this week's TV tapings.

In recent months, a number of talents have taken to streaming live on Twitch to connect with their fans and obviously, make money through Twitch's monetization systems. Some chat with fans. Some play video games alongside them while talking about different topics, including and beyond their WWE exploits. A number of other talents have launched personal YouTube channels where they create and produce their own content, monetizing the videos via advertising and promoting their own personal brands and interests outside of the scope of their WWE personalities. Still others have taken to delivering video messages to fans via Cameo.com, a service that allows fans to purchase personalized greetings as gifts from celebrities. In many cases, these are done using the talents' real names, not their WWE personas, although obviously, it's the same person.

In speaking to talents today, to a person, they described using those platforms as a way to make additional revenue for themselves during the pandemic since WWE has halted touring of live events and without those events, that means no bonuses or merchandise royalties. In many cases, talents who have created streaming channels aren't names that are necessarily being heavily merchandised by the company, although there are exceptions to that, such as AJ Styles, who recently began streaming on Twitch, coming on board that streaming service after streaming on another platform, Mixer.

For talents who aren't on the level of a Styles, however, creating and building the streaming channels was seen as a fun opportunity to build their own brands, interact with their audience and make some money under their real names to offset the loss of revenue that came with the pandemic. For that reason as well as the belief that they have the ability to create their own content on their own time, WWE's email has led to some grumbling among those who feel WWE was now hurting their ability to make outside money during a time period where their own WWE earnings are hurt by the pandemic.

Some pushed the idea that losing the freedom to promote themselves while working for WWE makes working somewhere else, that would allow for more freedom, far more enticing but the reality is that in most cases (not all, but most), the talents stay where they are, no matter how upset they might be at a situation.

From a WWE perspective, they are obviously trying to protect what they feel is their intellectual property and that's something that all entertainment companies have always taken very seriously. Certainly, when a talent signs a WWE contract, they are agreeing to sign away certain rights for WWE to utilize during the length of that contract. If the talents were appearing outside of WWE as their characters or portraying themselves as those characters - for example Saraya Knight appearing as Paige, as opposed to appearing under her real name - certainly WWE would be well within their rights to object to that, just as they could if someone used their WWE ring name while appearing on an independent wrestling show.

WWE's goal here is no different than what Disney’s would be in the same case - to protect their brand and IP from being exploited by others in a way the company doesn't approve of. There is a massive gray area here, because Disney doesn’t have to worry about Mickey Mouse working on his own projects. In this case, for WWE talents, where does the line get drawn when those potentially exploiting WWE’s Intellectual Property would be the talents themselves? Where does the line get drawn between for example, Saraya Knight and Paige, especially in a world where WWE has portrayed her under her real name on a reality series?

Of course it's entirely possible that WWE simply wants any such ventures to come through the company, so they in control of the talents, how they are utilized and portrayed. There's no word whether this means WWE is looking to do more beyond what they currently produce on streaming platforms or whether they want to launch their own Cameo clone, etc.

Over the last 24 hours, there has been a lot of talk among talents about pushing back against WWE's edict if they are indeed being required to shut down their personal streaming channels, but whether that actually happens or not remains to be seen. As of now, talents don’t have clear clarification of what is and is not allowed going forward, and until they do, their concerns won’t be alleviated, especially when they are being told that they cannot use their own likeness, in essence, their own face, for outside projects.

PWInsider.com has reached out to WWE for comment but has not yet received a response.

Creed does shit with GiantBomb, newLegacyInc, is vying for a hosting gig at the new G4 Channel, etc.

Keeping UpUpDownDown and only UpUpDownDown is not gonna fly with him I imagine, or any wrestlers for that matter who want to use any basic way to get themselves out there.

This basically sounds like another way for Vince to say "You can't get over without me saying so" except now it is real life, and it is their real money, that he is messing with. It just screams disaster for me.

I never thought f***ing gaming was gonna be the cause of one of WWE's biggest talent clashes in recent memory, especially over the Saudi situation, but I think this is gonna do it, and Vince is not gonna see it coming.  

[thegatewaydrug]

Currently, a mod of Adam Cole's Twitch is deleting questions about the issue.

[Von Wagner's Brownies]

Honestly, considering the whole "Vince wants you to cheer and boo for who Vince wants you to cheer and boo for", I'm honestly not surprised he wants to do this.

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Sept 4, 2020 16:54:20 GMT -5 ayumidah said:

Sept 4, 2020 16:52:42 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

Although, either way, how f***ed to be this stingy with folks making bread in other places during a f***ing pandemic while you just posted record profits in, and I repeat, a f***ING PANDEMIC

well, they're still releasing people too, so I mean we already know how much they really care about that

AND they're still signing people or trying to while claiming trimming the roster is to help profit margins.

They offered Kingston a contract when he got over in the AEW Cody match and trended and he turned them down.

They're a bunch of petty dickheads over there

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Sept 4, 2020 16:56:29 GMT -5 thegatewaydrug said:

Currently, a mod of Adam Cole's Twitch is deleting questions about the issue.

They proably dont wanna have shit blow up yet but I imagine everyone is aware of it and planning action.

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I hope this bites WWE big time in the butt and bunch of stars leave the whole company. Trying to mess with Billie Kay's show and possibly Asuka's show? The old man has lost its grapefruits!

[spagett]

They'll probably have some new lame WWE version of Twitch or Cameo that they've developed and they'll make all the talent use that.

It'll flop as almost everything Vince tries out always does, remember Tout?, and all this will achieve is making the talent even more miserable working for a truly horrible person in Vince Mcmahon.

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Sept 4, 2020 16:55:40 GMT -5 ada2 said:

What about guys like AJ Styles then? How does that work with him owning his name and such?

How can they expect there talent to be happy with this decision as well

Styles ain't gonna be doing stuff anymore that's for sure. Him, of course the UUDD crew, Orton, Corbin, those in NXT such as "BRE" and Mia, all of them game, all of them go to other outlets and spend time being themselves so yeah. I mean these days that's how all of us 45 and younger really spend time with each other. We all game, we all have another channel elsewhere, it's what we all do, it's part of our lives.

This won't be like the whole Saudi thing, this is a bigger issue as this doesn't conflict with work and yet Vince is making it relate to work. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens.

[thegatewaydrug]

Get ready, Vince is gonna make a big announcement about this new policy tonight on Tout. Oh wait...

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What is gonna make this worse is Vince is gonna pick exactly who he gives exceptions to to allow them to continue their channel.

UpUpDownDown will continue because that is a WWE owned show.

AJ Styles is a name they damn sure do not want to piss off so he will be "allowed" to keep his twitch.

People like Billie Kay are gettin run over by the piece of shit driving the GOOD SHIT PAL BUS

[spagett]

It's almost like having a 75 year old weirdo maniac, who is laughably out of touch, make all the decisions in the company is a very bad idea.

You can make very good money in WWE, but honestly everything else about working there seems MISERABLE

[Chainsaw]

Everyone should leave this company. It's as simple as that.