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Post by Sparvid on Dec 22, 2020 6:42:49 GMT -5
Batista's second run was between the filming and release of the first Guardians movie and they didn't mention that at all during that time, other then Triple H saying something like "Go back to Hollywood" on the night he left.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 22, 2020 6:48:00 GMT -5
Batista's second run was between the filming and release of the first Guardians movie and they didn't mention that at all during that time, other then Triple H saying something like "Go back to Hollywood" on the night he left. To be fair, that was because they and most of Hollywood thought the movie was going to bomb. It didn’t so they did look kind of foolish for that. This is different because, again, they let her go do that and barely did anything with it when they used to dedicate segments to Sheamus appearing in the second Bay TMNT movie. |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 22, 2020 6:56:18 GMT -5
Batista's second run was between the filming and release of the first Guardians movie and they didn't mention that at all during that time, other then Triple H saying something like "Go back to Hollywood" on the night he left. The WWE's philosophy is that wrestlers should be dependent on them. You succeed away from the ring on your own, they won't mention it. Bringing it back to Twitch and streaming, that was increasing the profile of wrestlers, which is good for WWE. But they had to shut that down. Instead of hyping it, trying to reach out, they shun it, because people were making money away from them. |
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Post by Legion on Dec 22, 2020 6:59:22 GMT -5
It makes you wonder if Disney dont want anything to do with WWE and aren't letting them.
WWE also has deals with Warner Bros. and do those animated shows with the old Hanna Barbara properties, so that may also have legal things in place to stop Disney/WWE crossover.
Or they could just be sour she did it independently, is credited as herself and they likely got 0 money from it.
It's probably that one.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 22, 2020 7:24:07 GMT -5
It makes you wonder if Disney dont want anything to do with WWE and aren't letting them. WWE also has deals with Warner Bros. and do those animated shows with the old Hanna Barbara properties, so that may also have legal things in place to stop Disney/WWE crossover. Or they could just be sour she did it independently, is credited as herself and they likely got 0 money from it. It's probably that one. But it’s not even like Disney and WWE haven’t worked with each other before. Nia Jax interviewed Brie Larson during the Captain Marvel press junket (the one where Brie said she was up for wrestling Nia which would have likely resulted in the end of Brie Larson), WWE people have been on Marvel red carpets, various random stuff like that. I just genuinely can’t believe that a company that has and continues to meddle in the affairs of its talent like WWE wouldn’t want Sasha Banks to star in a show as big as The Mandalorian without a tonne of caveats and cash being exchanged so that they would promote the hell out of it on their TV show. If they didn’t attempt that, they’re straight up bad business people. Edit: It’s also not like they didn’t talk about it at all, they tweeted it (days after the episode aired) and had segments about it on The Bump so it’s not like they couldn’t or didn’t, just not enough to mention on stuff people actually watch. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 22, 2020 7:48:11 GMT -5
It makes you wonder if Disney dont want anything to do with WWE and aren't letting them. WWE also has deals with Warner Bros. and do those animated shows with the old Hanna Barbara properties, so that may also have legal things in place to stop Disney/WWE crossover. Or they could just be sour she did it independently, is credited as herself and they likely got 0 money from it. It's probably that one. But it’s not even like Disney and WWE haven’t worked with each other before. Nia Jax interviewed Brie Larson during the Captain Marvel press junket (the one where Brie said she was up for wrestling Nia which would have likely resulted in the end of Brie Larson), WWE people have been on Marvel red carpets, various random stuff like that. I just genuinely can’t believe that a company that has and continues to meddle in the affairs of its talent like WWE wouldn’t want Sasha Banks to star in a show as big as The Mandalorian without a tonne of caveats and cash being exchanged so that they would promote the hell out of it on their TV show. If they didn’t attempt that, they’re straight up bad business people. Edit: It’s also not like they didn’t talk about it at all, they tweeted it (days after the episode aired) and had segments about it on The Bump so it’s not like they couldn’t or didn’t, just not enough to mention on stuff people actually watch. And it's not like they need to pay Disney for Michael COle to say "Sasha had an appearance on The Mandalorian". With a throwaway comment or two you can immediately establish that she's a rising star not just in wrestling but in entertainment in general, and I dunno maybe for a character who even as a face tends to have a cocky 'I'm a star' edge to herself, that sort of thing might be really beneficial in legitimizing her character. I don't think anyone's going to say this is money left on the table, but the cost of putting in the slightest, tiniest thing is so abysmally low, and it's all they really need to do. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 22, 2020 8:36:06 GMT -5
Playing devils advocate for a moment, remember Disney+ is a rival broadcaster to NBC Universal and Fox so there's more at play than the WWE being petty. When Xavier starts his G4 gig, if they promote that on TV, that's probably why. It isn't playing favourites, just that G4 is an NBC project.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 22, 2020 8:42:25 GMT -5
Playing devils advocate for a moment, remember Disney+ is a rival broadcaster to NBC Universal and Fox so there's more at play than the WWE being petty. When Xavier starts his G4 gig, if they promote that on TV, that's probably why. It isn't playing favourites, just that G4 is an NBC project. And my counterpoint to that is they spent whole segments promoting Sheamus in the second Bay TMNT movie which is owned by (the now newly established) CBS Viacom who are about as far away from both Disney and Comcast as possible. Like, again, I’m not expecting a ginormous thing but when you’re looking for stars and one of your talent has actually done something worthy of stardom, you find a way to harp on that because then guess what, you see her as a star. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 22, 2020 8:51:30 GMT -5
Playing devils advocate for a moment, remember Disney+ is a rival broadcaster to NBC Universal and Fox so there's more at play than the WWE being petty. When Xavier starts his G4 gig, if they promote that on TV, that's probably why. It isn't playing favourites, just that G4 is an NBC project. And my counterpoint to that is they spent whole segments promoting Sheamus in the second Bay TMNT movie which is owned by (the now newly established) CBS Viacom who are about as far away from both Disney and Comcast as possible. Like, again, I’m not expecting a ginormous thing but when you’re looking for stars and one of your talent has actually done something worthy of stardom, you find a way to harp on that because then guess what, you see her as a star. That was a movie, not a rival show on a rival channel owned by a rival broadcaster, not direct competition. |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Dec 22, 2020 8:53:56 GMT -5
It makes you wonder if Disney dont want anything to do with WWE and aren't letting them. WWE also has deals with Warner Bros. and do those animated shows with the old Hanna Barbara properties, so that may also have legal things in place to stop Disney/WWE crossover. Or they could just be sour she did it independently, is credited as herself and they likely got 0 money from it. It's probably that one. But it’s not even like Disney and WWE haven’t worked with each other before. Nia Jax interviewed Brie Larson during the Captain Marvel press junket (the one where Brie said she was up for wrestling Nia which would have likely resulted in the end of Brie Larson), WWE people have been on Marvel red carpets, various random stuff like that. Not only that, WWE literally ran a promo video on Raw to advertise the movie’s release with footage from it intercut with women wrestlers kicking ass, so there’s more to it. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 22, 2020 9:54:25 GMT -5
And my counterpoint to that is they spent whole segments promoting Sheamus in the second Bay TMNT movie which is owned by (the now newly established) CBS Viacom who are about as far away from both Disney and Comcast as possible. Like, again, I’m not expecting a ginormous thing but when you’re looking for stars and one of your talent has actually done something worthy of stardom, you find a way to harp on that because then guess what, you see her as a star. That was a movie, not a rival show on a rival channel owned by a rival broadcaster, not direct competition. But a rival movie owned by a rival broadcaster. If those semantics can be put on The Mandalorian, it could really easily be done for that because NBC Universal, I’m sure, would rather WWE promoted something coming out from them that same weekend. |
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Post by Legion on Dec 22, 2020 10:10:59 GMT -5
It's just so unlike WWE NOT to do it, it feels like there is more to it than just negligence.
Which means either sour grapes she did it alone, or something going on that means they literally aren't allowed.
It's very odd. Doubt we'll find out until Sasha leaves.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 22, 2020 11:12:40 GMT -5
That was a movie, not a rival show on a rival channel owned by a rival broadcaster, not direct competition. But a rival movie owned by a rival broadcaster. If those semantics can be put on The Mandalorian, it could really easily be done for that because NBC Universal, I’m sure, would rather WWE promoted something coming out from them that same weekend. It isn't semantics though, one is direct competition to the channel paying them hundreds of millions and it's streaming service, and the other is competition in the sense it's also entertainment, but not one currently eating into their ratings. I'm not American, but outside of reality TV, tv shows about TV and talk shows Tv shows promoting shows on other broadcasters is super rare, no matter who stars, I can't imagine the more cutthroat American market being any more open to it. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 22, 2020 11:20:59 GMT -5
But a rival movie owned by a rival broadcaster. If those semantics can be put on The Mandalorian, it could really easily be done for that because NBC Universal, I’m sure, would rather WWE promoted something coming out from them that same weekend. It isn't semantics though, one is direct competition to the channel paying them hundreds of millions and it's streaming service, and the other is competition in the sense it's also entertainment, but not one currently eating into their ratings. I'm not American, but outside of reality TV, tv shows about TV and talk shows Tv shows promoting shows on other broadcasters is super rare, no matter who stars, I can't imagine the more cutthroat American market being any more open to it. I mean, you could argue that a big movie can cut into ratings because people go at prime time to go see it. Like, I can’t see a scenario where TV companies were happy that Avengers Endgame was making a load of money and taking away viewers at certain times for a few weeks. And if we’re talking about WWE promoting other TV shows, WWE spent an entire year doing it during the guest host period. And most of those were not NBC Universal shows, I’m pretty sure. |
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Post by gl83 on Dec 25, 2020 20:52:32 GMT -5
Dakota Kai with an update on her Twitch channel:
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Post by mystermystery on Dec 25, 2020 21:20:32 GMT -5
I feel like it would be incredibly easy to post an exceptionally snarking comment on "Wonder how much off her pay they'll take for that video." but she looks so sad at the fact that she has to essentially go dormant on something that not only brought joy to her but to others in a time of pain.
Checking my Twitch follows the other day, I realized it'd been over two months since Cesaro was on and that's such a bummer.
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Post by ayumidah on Dec 26, 2020 2:21:46 GMT -5
Yeah, Xavier hasn't streamed on his twitch in over 2 months either. Really sad.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 26, 2020 2:42:21 GMT -5
Yeah, Xavier hasn't streamed on his twitch in over 2 months either. Really sad. Cole still streams, hopefully that doesn't stop. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 26, 2020 8:09:17 GMT -5
Yeah, Xavier hasn't streamed on his twitch in over 2 months either. Really sad. Weirdly, he has appeared on other streams. He was on Chris Decker’s charity stream with nL not long ago. It was as Austin Creed but still. |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Dec 26, 2020 8:43:11 GMT -5
"WWE owns your face" is f***ing horrific. We could see it coming. I mean blue dot Christian was a thing. |
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