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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 16, 2020 23:55:21 GMT -5
I legitimately don鈥檛 think the Warriors are going to be King Shit anymore without KD and a constantly downward trending Draymond Green. Don鈥檛 get me wrong, they鈥檒l be in the playoffs but I think there will be better teams. Of course that鈥檚 as it stands now... we鈥檒l see who they buy with that sweet sweet #2 pick. I think Klay comes back putting up 30 next year. If he is on any other team, he might lead the league in scoring But yes, Draymond not being Draymond anymore plays a big factor. They won't be a juggernaut anymore but they shouldn't be overlooked to hard either The number 2 pick can go multiple ways. But their bench whole squad will be much better then the horrendous mess it was last year. Warriors knew that season was going to be long and put themselves in position to succeed long term instead of getting a middling pick so smart on their part
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Post by sfvega on Oct 17, 2020 1:52:01 GMT -5
I legitimately don鈥檛 think the Warriors are going to be King Shit anymore without KD and a constantly downward trending Draymond Green. Don鈥檛 get me wrong, they鈥檒l be in the playoffs but I think there will be better teams. Of course that鈥檚 as it stands now... we鈥檒l see who they buy with that sweet sweet #2 pick. I think Klay comes back putting up 30 next year. If he is on any other team, he might lead the league in scoring聽 But yes, Draymond not being Draymond anymore plays a big factor. They won't be a juggernaut anymore but they shouldn't be overlooked to hard either The number 2 pick can go multiple ways. But their bench whole squad will be much better then the horrendous mess it was last year. Warriors knew that season was going to be long and put themselves in position to succeed long term instead of getting a middling pick so smart on their part Esp if they go Wiseman. Remember how many uncontested dunks their bigs like Bogut and McGee got with that ball movement? Now imagine that guy with a ton of skill. I know the overarching rumor is that they move the pick for something more playoff-ready, but why? They could use a player who isn't making bank who can also contribute because last year showed their depth had left with Livingston, Iguodala, McGee, etc. The savings between another veteran role player and the #2 pick could be another signing or someone at the dealine.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 17, 2020 1:59:17 GMT -5
I think Klay comes back putting up 30 next year. If he is on any other team, he might lead the league in scoring But yes, Draymond not being Draymond anymore plays a big factor. They won't be a juggernaut anymore but they shouldn't be overlooked to hard either The number 2 pick can go multiple ways. But their bench whole squad will be much better then the horrendous mess it was last year. Warriors knew that season was going to be long and put themselves in position to succeed long term instead of getting a middling pick so smart on their part Esp if they go Wiseman. Remember how many uncontested dunks their bigs like Bogut and McGee got with that ball movement? Now imagine that guy with a ton of skill. I know the overarching rumor is that they move the pick for something more playoff-ready, but why? They could use a player who isn't making bank who can also contribute because last year showed their depth had left with Livingston, Iguodala, McGee, etc. The savings between another veteran role player and the #2 pick could be another signing or someone at the dealine. The best move they can do is go Wiseman and sign Dwight Howard on the cheap or even lure someone like Whiteside on the cheap Now you have big man depth with Wiseman, Looney and potentially another big man vet. They can still lure people their on the cheap. The only way I move the number 2 pick is if it is highly worth it meaning you can move Wiggins and get back a damn good player and some depth
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Post by sfvega on Oct 17, 2020 5:40:21 GMT -5
On the topic of Kawhi. Is it fair to say looking back his single season in Toronto was better than any single season he had as a Spur? His last 3 postseasons stand far above his others, but namely 2019 in points, boards, threes, shots, and (if you're into that sort of thing) Usage and VORP. He never had more of the offensive load, and was every bit as good as before and probably better. Still weird that he's a small forward and just now being seen as really elite, but is a career 50+% FG%, 40% 3PT%, and 84% FT%. Even for a middling usage starter, those are fantastic numbers. But for a guy with two Finals, those are short list all-time at his position numbers. He shot noticeably from 3 than the years prior, but it's pretty laughable for Trez who got friggin abused in the playoffs to take exception to something. I take exception to him getting toasted by every big on the defensive end.
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Post by sfvega on Oct 17, 2020 9:47:00 GMT -5
Esp if they go Wiseman. Remember how many uncontested dunks their bigs like Bogut and McGee got with that ball movement? Now imagine that guy with a ton of skill. I know the overarching rumor is that they move the pick for something more playoff-ready, but why? They could use a player who isn't making bank who can also contribute because last year showed their depth had left with Livingston, Iguodala, McGee, etc. The savings between another veteran role player and the #2 pick could be another signing or someone at the dealine. The best move they can do is go Wiseman and sign Dwight Howard on the cheap or even lure someone like Whiteside on the cheap聽 Now you have big man depth with Wiseman, Looney and potentially another big man vet. They can still lure people their on the cheap.聽 The only way I move the number 2 pick is if it is highly worth it meaning you can move Wiggins and get back a damn good player and some depth I think a lot of people expected more from Looney last year because the Warriors were high on him. He may be injury-prone, and had a lost year. Who knows how high they are on him now? Could go either way. Could have a kinda breakout year next year. Could be the next Willie Hernangomez....
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 19, 2020 0:50:36 GMT -5
People expect the Lakers to go after Derrick Rose again
Last year they were trying to do a trade of Caruso and a pick for Rose but Det wanted Kuzma in the deal. Rose also wanted to remain in Det
Idk, Rose and LeBron was a bad fit on the Cavs and would probably be so here too. Mil def needs Rose more then LA does and need to pull that trade off plus I think Rose would be more inclined to go there with him being from Chicago
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 20, 2020 11:56:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 12:01:03 GMT -5
So Lakers are trying to request a career ending injury application to get Luol Deng off the team books which would in turn free up about 5mil which would be huge for us.
and I do not see how we do not get this considering Orlando got approved for the samething with Mozgov.
Question is what do we use it on...to keep an exsisting player or to get new piece.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 12:45:16 GMT -5
They didn't go with Mike D'Antoni. Very ballsy.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 20, 2020 12:58:40 GMT -5
They didn't go with Mike D'Antoni. Very ballsy. *facepalm* They hired the wrong Raptors assistant coach.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 20, 2020 13:45:21 GMT -5
So Lakers are trying to request a career ending injury application to get Luol Deng off the team books which would in turn free up about 5mil which would be huge for us. and I do not see how we do not get this considering Orlando got approved for the samething with Mozgov. Question is what do we use it on...to keep an exsisting player or to get new piece. Mozgov was waived due to a knee injury and never played a game for Orlando tho. They filed for salary relief that same year and got it Luol Deng was healthy and they bought his contract out. He then went and played with the Wolves the next season. Don't see Lakers winning that argument
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 13:53:17 GMT -5
So Lakers are trying to request a career ending injury application to get Luol Deng off the team books which would in turn free up about 5mil which would be huge for us. and I do not see how we do not get this considering Orlando got approved for the samething with Mozgov. Question is what do we use it on...to keep an exsisting player or to get new piece. Mozgov was waived due to a knee injury and never played a game for Orlando tho. They filed for salary relief that same year and got it Luol Deng was healthy and they bought his contract out. He then went and played with the Wolves the next season. Don't see Lakers winning that argument Mozgov went off to play in Russia after Orlando was given the exemption. So it will be what the NBA believes is "career ending" Deng did not play 25 games which is the cut off limit to be able to apply for this exemption.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 20, 2020 13:58:37 GMT -5
Mozgov was waived due to a knee injury and never played a game for Orlando tho. They filed for salary relief that same year and got it Luol Deng was healthy and they bought his contract out. He then went and played with the Wolves the next season. Don't see Lakers winning that argument Mozgov went off to play in Russia after Orlando was given the exemption. So it will be what the NBA believes is "career ending" Deng did not play 25 games which is the cut off limit to be able to apply for this exemption. Yea, but that was after they got the exemption and he was originally cut for the knee injury and the knee injury still bothered Mozgov when he went over there. He signed but never played, that's why Magic was able to keep him off the books If he went back and played, then his money would had counted against the books Deng played and was a healthy scratch for those games, so there is a difference. If he never played a game after Lakers cut him, they would had a big case
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2020 22:34:00 GMT -5
They didn't go with Mike D'Antoni. Very ballsy. *facepalm* They hired the wrong Raptors assistant coach. What's wrong with him? He worked with Nurse for years.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Oct 20, 2020 22:45:28 GMT -5
*facepalm* They hired the wrong Raptors assistant coach. What's wrong with him? He worked with Nurse for years. Nothing....just he isnt the one we actually showcased as head coach for a game which we won. And no one has hired him yet.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 21, 2020 6:10:41 GMT -5
If D'Antoni doesn't get the coaching job in NO, Nash has expressed interest in D'Antoni being his assistant coach in Brooklyn
Honestly, it wouldn't be the worst gig for him. He can focus on offense and basically be another head coach on the sideline. Nash said he isn't looking to just hire people, he wants people in his inner circle. He asked Dirk, but Dirk said he isn't ready for coaching yet
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 21, 2020 8:15:13 GMT -5
If D'Antoni doesn't get the coaching job in NO, Nash has expressed interest in D'Antoni being his assistant coach in Brooklyn Honestly, it wouldn't be the worst gig for him. He can focus on offense and basically be another head coach on the sideline. Nash said he isn't looking to just hire people, he wants people in his inner circle. He asked Dirk, but Dirk said he isn't ready for coaching yet Oh man, Nash and Dirk as a coaching duo isn't something I knew I wanted until now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 21, 2020 13:07:20 GMT -5
Stan Van Gundy is the new coach of the Pelicans
Bad hire. You should have hired a young assistant coach out there who can run a fast pace offense and grow with this team. I would had taken D'Antoni over SVG
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Post by sfvega on Oct 21, 2020 22:29:33 GMT -5
Stan Van Gundy is the new coach of the Pelicans Bad hire. You should have hired a young assistant coach out there who can run a fast pace offense and grow with this team. I would had taken D'Antoni over SVG I just knew they'd f*** it up. Way, way too much smoke for him to not be the hire. I get that they needed a guy who could coach them up on D as Gentry just basically never bothered. But like you said, I wish they'd picked someone whose geared towards running a wide open offense. Which is not to say JVG isn't a good offensive coach, but his strength isn't Lonzo/Zion/BI basketball. He did well with Turk, Lewis, JJ who were all more spot-up shooters. BI CAN do that, but he's best off the dribble. I think they're a little bit better with this hire, as I think he'll take them to the playoffs. But I don't think they reach their potential under SVG.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 21, 2020 23:22:23 GMT -5
Stan Van Gundy is the new coach of the Pelicans Bad hire. You should have hired a young assistant coach out there who can run a fast pace offense and grow with this team. I would had taken D'Antoni over SVG I just knew they'd f*** it up. Way, way too much smoke for him to not be the hire. I get that they needed a guy who could coach them up on D as Gentry just basically never bothered. But like you said, I wish they'd picked someone whose geared towards running a wide open offense. Which is not to say JVG isn't a good offensive coach, but his strength isn't Lonzo/Zion/BI basketball. He did well with Turk, Lewis, JJ who were all more spot-up shooters. BI CAN do that, but he's best off the dribble. I think they're a little bit better with this hire, as I think he'll take them to the playoffs. But I don't think they reach their potential under SVG. They will have a new coach by the time it is time for Zion to sign a new deal in 3 years They were already coming into the season as a borderline playoff team so making it as 7th or 8th seed isn't going to be a shock nor should it. Paying Ingram is an easy decision. But they still have to find a partner for a Holiday trade (Nets are interested and i'd def take LeVert in that deal) and they have to figure out how much is Lonzo worth This team can easily trend upward or go backwards depending on moves they make
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