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Post by sfvega on Nov 3, 2020 14:50:50 GMT -5
Frank is at least a very good defender. Warriors need depth like him and Randle, but not sure that is the best return on #2, even in a down draft. I still think Hayes goes top 5. I've always had Haliburton or Anthony to Knicks, and I think that's how it shakes out though Anthony seems to be falling further in recent mocks. Not sure I'd write him off yet though, esp in this class. Then again, look at how far MPJ fell. I like Cole Anthony, people are sleeping on him but he'd def be a big reach at 8. Around the 14 range is better for him if the Knicks want to grab him if they move back. I'd take the chance on him but I doubt they will Assuming neither Warriors or Wolves trade their picks, this draft can get crazy after 3. Their is solid players who can become good and good players who may turn out to be bums so shit is up in the air The next 15 picks after Charlotte are the most up in the air the draft has been in that area since I can remember following it. Cole Anthony still has offensive upside IMO. Probably gonna be a steal to someone in the 10-18 range. Also, with all these dumb looking alternates, can we get a damn Knicks New Jack City alternate? It'd be 10x better than "The Land".
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 3, 2020 14:58:59 GMT -5
Frank is at least a very good defender. Warriors need depth like him and Randle, but not sure that is the best return on #2, even in a down draft. I still think Hayes goes top 5. I've always had Haliburton or Anthony to Knicks, and I think that's how it shakes out though Anthony seems to be falling further in recent mocks. Not sure I'd write him off yet though, esp in this class. Then again, look at how far MPJ fell. I like Cole Anthony, people are sleeping on him but he'd def be a big reach at 8. Around the 14 range is better for him if the Knicks want to grab him if they move back. I'd take the chance on him but I doubt they will Assuming neither Warriors or Wolves trade their picks, this draft can get crazy after 3. Their is solid players who can become good and good players who may turn out to be bums so shit is up in the air One thing is for certain; the Kings will 100% take one of the bums at #12
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 14:59:44 GMT -5
I like Cole Anthony, people are sleeping on him but he'd def be a big reach at 8. Around the 14 range is better for him if the Knicks want to grab him if they move back. I'd take the chance on him but I doubt they will Assuming neither Warriors or Wolves trade their picks, this draft can get crazy after 3. Their is solid players who can become good and good players who may turn out to be bums so shit is up in the air The next 15 picks after Charlotte are the most up in the air the draft has been in that area since I can remember following it. Cole Anthony still has offensive upside IMO. Probably gonna be a steal to someone in the 10-18 range. Also, with all these dumb looking alternates, can we get a damn Knicks New Jack City alternate? It'd be 10x better than "The Land". That's the thing with this draft. There is a lot of 10-20 talent but no one you risk reaching on talent 4-10. If Knicks can move back to 12-15, they need to grab him up. He's a raw talent but he can bring exciting play and the Knicks have gone too vanilla with their recent picks in Frank and Knox whose ceiling were good players but on a championship team they wouldn't be your top 6 players Knicks as usual waste money. Their Jerseys are lazy. I like the new Oakland uniforms from the Warriors. Same with the Nets using the old throwback New Jersey Nets uniform.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 15:18:27 GMT -5
I like Cole Anthony, people are sleeping on him but he'd def be a big reach at 8. Around the 14 range is better for him if the Knicks want to grab him if they move back. I'd take the chance on him but I doubt they will Assuming neither Warriors or Wolves trade their picks, this draft can get crazy after 3. Their is solid players who can become good and good players who may turn out to be bums so shit is up in the air One thing is for certain; the Kings will 100% take one of the bums at #12 I can't call it on the Kings They need a F but the problem is, none of the forwards really stand out from each other and they are going to run heavy 10-20. I can't really tell you a safe pick or what will be a bust Patrick Williams Devin Vassell Saddiq Bey Precious Achiuwa One of those 4 names they should be grabbing if they going F
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Post by Push R Truth on Nov 3, 2020 15:21:09 GMT -5
Val's "This is really stupid but I still want to see it wish": I wish there was some way to make the bottom 4-6 teams play a round robin tournament for some sort of draft bonus. Like if some team is penalized and loses a draft pick, the winner of the tournament gets that extra pick or some other random bullshit. Or you get like an extra couple balls in the lottery or something. Or maybe your team gets like an extra 5 million on the salary cap or something.
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Post by darbus alan on Nov 3, 2020 15:29:17 GMT -5
This is a weird ass draft because not only is the talent pool feel very up in the air, but we didn't have any big tournaments where dudes could create moments to get them to stand apart from the rest of the crowd.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 15:31:15 GMT -5
Val's "This is really stupid but I still want to see it wish": I wish there was some way to make the bottom 4-6 teams play a round robin tournament for some sort of draft bonus. Like if some team is penalized and loses a draft pick, the winner of the tournament gets that extra pick or some other random bullshit. Or you get like an extra couple balls in the lottery or something. Or maybe your team gets like an extra 5 million on the salary cap or something. They will NEVER play for draft positioning It would add incentive for teams to at least keep some skill players but also penalize the teams that are actually bad and not trying to purposely tank. The lottery isn't perfect but it is the best solution for now In terms of incentive for a tournament for the bottom teams, it would only be bragging rights. No matter how you slice it, if for example Portland ended up having a really bad year, no way Dame Lillard would play any of those games. Vets would say f*** that and stay home
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 15:36:11 GMT -5
This is a weird ass draft because not only is the talent pool feel very up in the air, but we didn't have any big tournaments where dudes could create moments to get them to stand apart from the rest of the crowd. Yea, a few players on the board like Cole Anthony could have used a big time tournament moment to increase their stock Thus far, the only person to really increase their stock in season was Obi Toppin who could go as early as number 2 and already 22 years old
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 16:15:30 GMT -5
Morey wants his player
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Nov 3, 2020 18:40:48 GMT -5
Seems there’s been one name out there that the Kings really like, and it’s Kira Lewis. I’m very uneducated, but basically Fox-lite? Fast man with no shot? I’d hate it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 18:55:20 GMT -5
Seems there’s been one name out there that the Kings really like, and it’s Kira Lewis. I’m very uneducated, but basically Fox-lite? Fast man with no shot? I’d hate it. He can shoot a little bit A poor man's Ja Morant in terms of not that type of stupid athletic but he has a better shot
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Post by tenshi on Nov 3, 2020 19:38:37 GMT -5
There are some rumblings about the Spurs trying to trade their way up the Draft so they can pick Deni Avdija after they have him a workout. If that's the case, who would benefit from trading with then and getting #11?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 20:01:57 GMT -5
There are some rumblings about the Spurs trying to trade their way up the Draft so they can pick Deni Avdija after they have him a workout. If that's the case, who would benefit from trading with then and getting #11? That would require them to get the number 4 or 5 pick Supposedly, Chicago and Cavs are big on him and both need Forwards so it has to be a trade that makes it worthwhile unless Deni somehow slips
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Post by tenshi on Nov 3, 2020 20:26:57 GMT -5
There are some rumblings about the Spurs trying to trade their way up the Draft so they can pick Deni Avdija after they have him a workout. If that's the case, who would benefit from trading with then and getting #11? That would require them to get the number 4 or 5 pick Supposedly, Chicago and Cavs are big on him and both need Forwards so it has to be a trade that makes it worthwhile unless Deni somehow slips Atlanta supposedly was open to trade their #6 pick and San Antonio was linked with them, possibly trading Demar DeRozan and #11 in order to get. The question here is, if that trade happens, would Deni be on the board at #6 and, if he's not, who should they take? Because #11 can land Patrick Williams, Precious Achiuwa, Jalen Smith and even people like Saddiq Bey and Devin Vasell but it all depends on who makes teams "fall in love" with them.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 3, 2020 23:14:32 GMT -5
That would require them to get the number 4 or 5 pick Supposedly, Chicago and Cavs are big on him and both need Forwards so it has to be a trade that makes it worthwhile unless Deni somehow slips Atlanta supposedly was open to trade their #6 pick and San Antonio was linked with them, possibly trading Demar DeRozan and #11 in order to get. The question here is, if that trade happens, would Deni be on the board at #6 and, if he's not, who should they take? Because #11 can land Patrick Williams, Precious Achiuwa, Jalen Smith and even people like Saddiq Bey and Devin Vasell but it all depends on who makes teams "fall in love" with them. ATL is not going to hamstring their cap taking on Demar when they got to pay John Collins Spurs will most likely end up with a Forward where they are at since they will have the first crack most likely at the lot of them as I said earlier. All of them are projected to go 10-20 barring surprises and they don't have enough assets to make a move to jump to the top 5 If Devi somehow last until 7 and up they got a chance but all things considered Devi is going top 4
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Post by Rican on Nov 4, 2020 1:10:52 GMT -5
I honestly think Deni is gonna go top 3. I’d love for the Spurs to get him but there’s lot of players in their range, especially with how unpredictable this draft is, I’d be excited for them to get. Their scouting and development is top notch so anyone they get will end up being pretty solid.
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Post by sfvega on Nov 4, 2020 5:36:27 GMT -5
It's so weird looking at this draft and then the next 2. Nobody knows who is going to go top 5 or what order or even if those guys will ever be worth that pick. But then you have Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Jalen Johnson, Terrence Clarke, Kuminga in 2021. And wild potential in 2022 double class with Emoni Bates looks like a future HOF scorer. Wembanyama and Chet Holgren are in the unicorn mold of guys who, with a little bit of weight, could be guys like you've never seen before. Jaden Hardy has a high ceiling as well. I'm almost positive I'd rather have the #5 or #6 pick in 2021 or 2022 than the #1 overall in 2020. Teams gonna taaaaaaaaank.....
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 4, 2020 5:43:47 GMT -5
It's so weird looking at this draft and then the next 2. Nobody knows who is going to go top 5 or what order or even if those guys will ever be worth that pick. But then you have Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Jalen Johnson, Terrence Clarke, Kuminga in 2021. And wild potential in 2022 double class with Emoni Bates looks like a future HOF scorer. Wembanyama and Chet Holgren are in the unicorn mold of guys who, with a little bit of weight, could be guys like you've never seen before. Jaden Hardy has a high ceiling as well. I'm almost positive I'd rather have the #5 or #6 pick in 2021 or 2022 than the #1 overall in 2020. Teams gonna taaaaaaaaank..... This is where you got to be smart If you're the Knicks, Charlotte, Cavs, Washington, OKC teams expected to be bad over next two years, you want your picks and others over the next few years Knicks have Clippers and Mavs picks outside of their own. If they get lucky and Mavs have a bad season then that's their benefit. OKC has a shit load of picks. NO also has picks On the flip side, teams that have played fast and loose giving up their picks like Lakers and Clippers are going to be hurting in 5 years. They are going to miss out on premium talent but if they win a ring or two they will accept the trade off
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Post by sfvega on Nov 4, 2020 10:55:06 GMT -5
It's so weird looking at this draft and then the next 2. Nobody knows who is going to go top 5 or what order or even if those guys will ever be worth that pick. But then you have Cade Cunningham, Jalen Green, Jalen Johnson, Terrence Clarke, Kuminga in 2021. And wild potential in 2022 double class with Emoni Bates looks like a future HOF scorer. Wembanyama and Chet Holgren are in the unicorn mold of guys who, with a little bit of weight, could be guys like you've never seen before. Jaden Hardy has a high ceiling as well. I'm almost positive I'd rather have the #5 or #6 pick in 2021 or 2022 than the #1 overall in 2020. Teams gonna taaaaaaaaank..... This is where you got to be smart If you're the Knicks, Charlotte, Cavs, Washington, OKC teams expected to be bad over next two years, you want your picks and others over the next few years Knicks have Clippers and Mavs picks outside of their own. If they get lucky and Mavs have a bad season then that's their benefit. OKC has a shit load of picks. NO also has picks On the flip side, teams that have played fast and loose giving up their picks like Lakers and Clippers are going to be hurting in 5 years. They are going to miss out on premium talent but if they win a ring or two they will accept the trade off Yeah, if there was one lottery to lose, it was this one. If there's one to win, it's 2022. Bates is getting compared to KD and Wembanyama is basically Gobert (already has his 7'9 wingspan at 16) with a three point shot. I swear, you gotta be praying the Knicks are trash in 2021-22. Watch them go .500
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 4, 2020 11:03:39 GMT -5
This is where you got to be smart If you're the Knicks, Charlotte, Cavs, Washington, OKC teams expected to be bad over next two years, you want your picks and others over the next few years Knicks have Clippers and Mavs picks outside of their own. If they get lucky and Mavs have a bad season then that's their benefit. OKC has a shit load of picks. NO also has picks On the flip side, teams that have played fast and loose giving up their picks like Lakers and Clippers are going to be hurting in 5 years. They are going to miss out on premium talent but if they win a ring or two they will accept the trade off Yeah, if there was one lottery to lose, it was this one. If there's one to win, it's 2022. Bates is getting compared to KD and Wembanyama is basically Gobert (already has his 7'9 wingspan at 16) with a three point shot. I swear, you gotta be praying the Knicks are trash in 2021-22. Watch them go .500 2022 is the skilled big man draft with potential HOF talent. It’s going to be ridiculous I can’t trust the Knicks to actually follow through on “rebuilding”. This team should be bad. What they did last year was f**ing stupid in giving vets all these contracts and didn’t even trade them to get value. Hopefully, they learned their lesson and it seems like they are thinking smart in regards wanting to take on salary for draft picks Tho if some way they got CP3, Melo is supposed to be behind him. Once again, no reason to win but they going try field this veteran/young players mix. BE SMART!!! OKC knows last season was fools gold. They not running that back, they going tank and build this team up in hopes of they can run off another good luck of draft picks that made them a successful team
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