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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 22, 2020 8:28:40 GMT -5
Not to disrespect the dead. I have not really seen any of his limited body of work, so I can’t judge for myself. I have read that he dud not show much charisma, but I also know that unlike his brother, wrestling had been his lifelong dream and that kind of drive is important. And I have heard from others that while he was definitely a bit crude due to inexperience he did show signs of being astute in the ring, a foundation to build on. But it’s all too easy to picture him falling into the same trap his brother dud by not being able to get out from under his father’s shadow. I suspect he’d have ended up in midcard hell like Cody was before quitting WWE-and on that note, a feud with Cody would have most definitely been written in the stars. Any other input?
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Post by XIII on Oct 22, 2020 8:45:09 GMT -5
He would have had the benefit of being Ric Flair’s son and if he was actually good, put in work and wanted to do it that would have mattered to HHH. David failed because he never really wanted to be a wrestler it was just something to do and make some money for a while.
All of that said, if whatever caused him to get hooked on drugs wasn’t addressed the end result probably would have still been the same.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 22, 2020 9:04:10 GMT -5
Impossible to know. We do not know if he would have had a career like Cody Rhodes or Randy Orton, or something more like Ted (Jr.) and Brett DiBiase or Ritchie Steamboat.
Or to keep it in the family, whether his career would be closer to David's or Ashley's.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Oct 22, 2020 9:21:11 GMT -5
David failed because he never really wanted to be a wrestler it was just something to do and make some money for a while. I'll always have a soft spot for David for 2 reasons. 1) He tried getting better and managed to marginally do so, which isn't a huge compliment because he was still terrible. 2) He at least understood how to play a character. The crazy gimmick kinda worked for him and he had something of a personality when he did it
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Post by fw91 on Oct 22, 2020 9:49:50 GMT -5
I mean, look at Charlotte, but then again the women have a smaller sample size on the roster
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Oct 22, 2020 10:08:56 GMT -5
I've told my stories of Reid several times on here, so I won't go into great detail, but...
Reid had a desire to learn and work. He could have had an easy road to the top immediately, but chose not to take it. He trained with George South, and then went out and worked the indies just like anybody else. I saw him work big crowds, I also saw him work in front of literally 9 people. He was a really nice guy who carried ZERO attitude.
He had some natural talent, but his desire to get good would have carried him further than his natural skill.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Oct 22, 2020 12:49:08 GMT -5
In the Ric Flair 30 for 30, Triple H said that they offered Reid a shot at developmental, but he failed a drug test. He even told Ric to let Reid know that they would give him one more test and Reid failed it again.
I don't think he would have meant as much to the men's division as Charlotte does to the women's division, but if he had stayed in Japan training and not come home for a break, it would have helped him improve tremendously and given him a better shot of staying clean. If Reid had shown that he was improving and stayed clean, then WWE would have given him another shot.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 22, 2020 15:23:59 GMT -5
Probably. He appeared to have the tools and drive and would have certainly had the opportunities.
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Post by MolotovMocktail on Oct 22, 2020 16:49:16 GMT -5
He had a lot more natural ability than David, and his amateur background would’ve been a big help. Unfortunately personal demons did him in.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 22, 2020 16:55:25 GMT -5
I think Reid would never have been able to step out from his father's shadow. Davey Boy Smith, Jr (Harry) was able to do so partly because his father was no longer around to compare him to and partly because he was able to step away a bit from that legacy by spending a good part of his time in Japan, rather than being under Vince's influence (for good or ill).
Ric is in a class by himself; not even Charlotte could really measure up. It might actually be to Charlotte's benefit that she is his daughter rather than a son; I think it's easier for the opposite-gender child of a superstar to forge their own path. Nattie is another example - she could get the rub from Dad and Uncle Bret without necessarily being required to be a carbon-copy of her more-famous parent (though it can be argued now that Nattie has outshone her father.)
Reid, though, would absolutely be under pressure.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Oct 22, 2020 17:12:51 GMT -5
From the handful of Reid matches I have seen,to me he is the best of the 3 of Ric's kids that got into wrestling. In ring Reid appeared to be way ahead of the game. Never seen him on the mic.
But also I never hated David Flair. And do not get why Charlotte is so popular.
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Post by salz4life on Oct 22, 2020 18:35:12 GMT -5
The son following in his father’s footsteps, I think, would’ve been tough. However, take a away the drug problem.... it seems like he and Charlotte were really close. It’s possible they might’ve driven each other and that would’ve helped him. I wish we could’ve found out.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 22, 2020 18:55:33 GMT -5
The son following in his father’s footsteps, I think, would’ve been tough. However, take a away the drug problem.... it seems like he and Charlotte were really close. It’s possible they might’ve driven each other and that would’ve helped him. I wish we could’ve found out. If Reid lives and has no personal demons, I'm not sure Ashley becomes a wrestler, because the entire premise of her getting into wrestling as hard as she did was initially to try and keep Reid from going off the rails any further, and then, when he passed away, as a tribute to him. She'd have probably gone into a different sport.
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Post by 5count5count on Oct 22, 2020 22:39:41 GMT -5
How many second generation wrestlers who's fathers were big stars also became bid stars in the industry. I can't even think of a few off the top of my head.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2020 23:00:41 GMT -5
How many second generation wrestlers who's fathers were big stars also became bid stars in the industry. I can't even think of a few off the top of my head. Macho Man, Bret and Owen, The Funks, Ted Dibiase, Dustin and Cody Rhodes, Jake, Road Dogg, Greg Valentine, etc.
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Post by 5count5count on Oct 23, 2020 0:28:44 GMT -5
How many second generation wrestlers who's fathers were big stars also became bid stars in the industry. I can't even think of a few off the top of my head. Macho Man, Bret and Owen, The Funks, Ted Dibiase, Dustin and Cody Rhodes, Jake, Road Dogg, Greg Valentine, etc. Cody, your kidding me. Dustin never came close to his fathers success. I don't think Stu was ever that big of star. You got me on the other ones. But when you look more recent. Joe Hennig, Mike DiBiase, Cody Hall, and Harry Smith.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 0:33:31 GMT -5
Macho Man, Bret and Owen, The Funks, Ted Dibiase, Dustin and Cody Rhodes, Jake, Road Dogg, Greg Valentine, etc. Cody, your kidding me. Dustin never came close to his fathers success. I don't think Stu was ever that big of star. You got me on the other ones. But when you look more recent. Joe Hennig, Mike DiBiase, Cody Hall, and Harry Smith. Well, Joe, Mike, and Harry are all 3rd generation.
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Post by 5count5count on Oct 23, 2020 0:43:06 GMT -5
Cody, your kidding me. Dustin never came close to his fathers success. I don't think Stu was ever that big of star. You got me on the other ones. But when you look more recent. Joe Hennig, Mike DiBiase, Cody Hall, and Harry Smith. Well, Joe, Mike, and Harry are all 3rd generation. But their fathers were big stars and they never reached their level. When I say second generation I do mean more recent like with live television.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Oct 23, 2020 0:59:10 GMT -5
If he had stayed on the straight and narrow and only continued to improve his game, Reid Flair vs Cody Rhodes could have been maybe the biggest next generational clash ever.
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Post by XIII on Oct 23, 2020 5:42:08 GMT -5
How many second generation wrestlers who's fathers were big stars also became bid stars in the industry. I can't even think of a few off the top of my head. Macho Man, Bret and Owen, The Funks, Ted Dibiase, Dustin and Cody Rhodes, Jake, Road Dogg, Greg Valentine, etc. The most obvious one being the Rock. lol. The Usos. Roman Reigns. Randy Orton.
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