Ben Wyatt
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 26, 2021 18:23:17 GMT -5
The BBWAA proves once again to be the biggest collection of self important douchebags around
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 26, 2021 18:26:05 GMT -5
I think Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz get their first years of eligibility next year. And this year was the last year for Curt Schilling's fascist ass.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 18:31:37 GMT -5
I think Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz get their first years of eligibility next year. And this year was the last year for Curt Schilling's fascist ass. A-Rod I think tho he has rehabbed his image might still take a year or two
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 26, 2021 18:34:52 GMT -5
I'm not sure if A-Rod ever gets in. He's done an amazing PR job with rehabbing his public image, but the BBWAA members don't think themselves as ordinary members of the public.
Oh and Curt Schilling has one more year of eligibility next year, though he wants to be taken off the ballot now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 18:58:06 GMT -5
Yeah, next year Ortiz gets in without question but it's questionable about A-Rod.
I was looking ahead to who's a first ballot on Baseball Reference, and it's looking rather shaky the next couple years.
2023 has really nobody out of that list I see fit, maybe Beltran is the lone wolf there if there's a first ballot, so that could be the year someone like Vizquel could get in (even though he should be in NOW but I digress(
2024 has Adrian Beltre, who is most definite. A few others who might stick around and get in after several years though.
2025 has Ichiro, who is REALLY MOST DEFINITE. CC Sabathia is a minor question mark, but I wouldn't be shocked if got voted in in his first. Others are question marks like Granderson.
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Post by darbus alan on Jan 26, 2021 19:01:19 GMT -5
I think Beltran's involvement with the Astros cheating scandal hurts his stock a lot.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2021 19:05:27 GMT -5
I think Beltran's involvement with the Astros cheating scandal hurts his stock a lot. Oh. Right. F***.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 19:06:40 GMT -5
I'm not sure if A-Rod ever gets in. He's done an amazing PR job with rehabbing his public image, but the BBWAA members don't think themselves as ordinary members of the public.
Oh and Curt Schilling has one more year of eligibility next year, though he wants to be taken off the ballot now.
A-Rod has a chance considering the next few years is weak with first ballot HOF players. The newer generation of writers should be coming in over his 10 years so he has a chance within that margin because the old gen is def holding all that against him Guys like Beltre and C.C. Will get in at some point but not first year since the writers still put a ton of stock in first ballot HOF And good take Schilling off the ballot. He doesn’t realize he’s his own worst enemy
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 19:07:33 GMT -5
I think Beltran's involvement with the Astros cheating scandal hurts his stock a lot. Oh. Right. F***. Yea I feel like it is a bit unfair he’s taken a lot of the blame while players are still playing and people have gotten their jobs back
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Post by sfvega on Jan 26, 2021 19:46:41 GMT -5
The game is in a worse spot than it has been in a while and the BBWAA refuse to be one-upped in terms of negatives. The only positive is their self-righteous bullshit screws over Schilling, which regardless of whether or not he earned it on the field, I just find hilarious.
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Vampiro138
Hank Scorpio
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jan 26, 2021 19:48:16 GMT -5
so is Pete Rose ever going to get in or is MLB still gonna be on the "gambling is bad!" bandwagon while they install on site bookies with Draft Kings in every MLB ballpark??
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 19:53:34 GMT -5
so is Pete Rose ever going to get in or is MLB still gonna be on the "gambling is bad!" bandwagon while they install on site bookies with Draft Kings in every MLB ballpark?? Pete is not getting in until he dies Also, while I believe Pete should be in he did himself no favors lying and ruining his chance a few years ago when they were going to put him in
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 20:02:28 GMT -5
Marcus Simien to the Blue Jays
Their line up is going to be filthy. They just need pitching to keep games close
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 26, 2021 20:07:48 GMT -5
so is Pete Rose ever going to get in or is MLB still gonna be on the "gambling is bad!" bandwagon while they install on site bookies with Draft Kings in every MLB ballpark?? Pete is not getting in until he dies Also, while I believe Pete should be in he did himself no favors lying and ruining his chance a few years ago when they were going to put him in Yeah, if Pete admitted what he did back in 1989 and tried to make amends he probably would have been forgiven and allowed in the Hall by now.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 20:15:25 GMT -5
Pete is not getting in until he dies Also, while I believe Pete should be in he did himself no favors lying and ruining his chance a few years ago when they were going to put him in Yeah, if Pete admitted what he did back in 1989 and tried to make amends he probably would have been forgiven and allowed in the Hall by now. Yea, either rehab your image in the media like A-Rod is doing or shut up and just wait like Bonds but Pete had his chance to get his place in the Hall before he died and he blew it MLB isn't going to let him enjoy that accolade while he is still living as sad as that sounds
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Gus Richlen: Ruffian
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Jan 26, 2021 20:19:55 GMT -5
f*** the Baseball Hall. It's somehow even worse than the Rock 'N' Roll one.
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Post by RI Richmark on Jan 26, 2021 20:22:30 GMT -5
Ya know, after what he did in 2004 I thought there nothing that could happen to ever make hate Curt Schilling. But man, it seems that he has taken that as a personal challenge. Not just with his social media stuff but his video game company bankrupted my state and is the primary reason the Pawsox are now in Worcester.
But I still can't hate him. The man came in claiming he was there to break the Curse and pitched through unimaginable pain and a bloody sock to do it. You can't hate that.
I just pretend that after 2007 Curt peacefully retired to Alaska and has been replaced by his evil brother Burt Schilling.
F*** you Burt.
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Vampiro138
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jan 26, 2021 20:22:43 GMT -5
f*** the Baseball Hall. It's somehow even worse than the Rock 'N' Roll one. at least the rock n roll one didnt go "nah, if you took LSD or any sort of drug to help you write music you arent allowed in!" like the baseball one is doing with steroids
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Post by BRV on Jan 26, 2021 20:28:10 GMT -5
I think Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz get their first years of eligibility next year. And this year was the last year for Curt Schilling's fascist ass. This was Barry Bonds' and Roger Clemens' best chance to make it into the Hall of Fame. Nobody was coming in as a first-year candidate who was worthy of induction, so it was clear that this was the best chance for anyone who has hung around for a while but hasn't made it to Cooperstown because of off-field issues (for Bonds and Clemens, it's performance-enhancing drugs, for Schilling, it's his toxic social media presence). Next year, David Ortiz and Alex Rodriguez will siphon off Bonds' and Clemens' votes. Even if A-Rod doesn't make it on the first ballot, his presence alone - and his image rehabilitation tour over the past five years - will do enough to steal prospective votes from Bonds or Clemens. The only way those two absolute, surefire Hall of Famers are inducted next summer is if they garner enough sympathy votes from BBWAA writers who feel they've "paid their dues" for being on the ballot for the maximum 10 years, despite their obvious, first-ballot candidacies. Looking ahead, Carlos Beltran's 2023 candidacy is mired in the Astros sign-stealing scandal; Adrian Beltre will have the Class of 2024 all to himself; and 2025 will belong to Ichiro, although I could see people trying to make enough of a case for CC Sabathia that he sneaks in on a later ballot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 26, 2021 22:57:27 GMT -5
Masahiro Tanaka is going back to Japan
I hope Yanks bring him back one day
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