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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2021 16:33:17 GMT -5
Omega, and Leviathan are pretty lengthy quests.
From Ashes was clearly content cut from ME3 so EA could do it's "online pass" BS to stop resellers.
edit: I might have mixed up my times... >_> the From Ashes was cut for Deluxe editions I think >_>
Anyway... for DLC to me
Mass Effect 1 barely had any DLC and Pinnacle station is pretty skippable altogether.
Bring down the Sky is alright, but kinda short.
ME2: not counting Promotional, Genesis, outfit or gun packs.... just missions gets you...
Overlord Zaeed - Mostly for the character but comes with a fun loyalty mission with an actual difference in the Pargon/Renegade routes.
Kasumi - Ditto Zaeed, the heist part was kinda fun... but it turns into a pretty generic run and gun post vault.
Lair of the Shadow Broker - A decently lengthy couple of missions. I like that it starts as an investigation... then goes to a standard shoot out... to a chase.... before going into the main section of the DLC
Firewalker Pack - Eh... the Hammerhead is alright... but its' really floaty and somehow not nearly as fun to drive as the Mako, other than that there's not much to this.
Normandy Crash - a quick kinda nothing of a mission it's cool to see the original Normandy's resting place and setting up the statue but overall kinda pointless (granted this was one of the Free to people that bought the game new! dlcs)
Arrival - At the time was a great way to hype the oncoming release of Mass Effect 3, otherwise a still a fun Jailbreak mission and follow up.
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ME3 only has the 4 missions but 3 of them are decently long and none really fill like Filler like the Normandy Crash or the Firewalker path... and Ashes is not that much shorter than like Zaeed's mission.
so it's kind've a wash to me between 2 and 3 over which is better DLC wise.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 20, 2021 16:53:39 GMT -5
They were pretty expansive DLCs, except From Ashes. But that gave you a new character and a lot of backstory on the Prothians further on in the game. The other three though took a good chunk of time to beat and added a lot to the game. I’ll go one further than Mighty Attack Tribble went and say that ME3 has the best DLCs of any game period, not just Citadel. Leviathan added so much to the Reaper backstory and Omega was great. I’d have just done the ending a little different. Yeah, I'll agree on that. I resent paying for DLCs and usually wait for a Game of the Year-type edition where they're bundled for free, but I happily paid for ME3's DLCs and considered them worth every penny. Great stuff.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 20, 2021 17:04:00 GMT -5
I missed writing about overlord somehow <_< I liked it.
I mean it's pretty obvious what's happening from the beginning (the dlc description spoiling it didn't help either but still >_>)
So theres not much of a mystery but still fun with a nice boss fight.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 20, 2021 17:04:27 GMT -5
Yeah, the DLC in ME3 is really good. Omega's DLC is great just for the temp squadmates, Leviathan is fascinating from a lore perspective, and the Citadel is lots of fun fanservice and is a bright spot in a game that's really bleak otherwise. Just noting how expensive they still are for an outdated console when you can get the entire trilogy (including those DLC's) for a much more economic package on modern consoles with a lot of improvements.
Outside of Pinnacle Station (which sucks), I think all the content DLC for the entire trilogy is pretty solid.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 21, 2021 1:30:15 GMT -5
Finished citadel for the first time. (It came out well after I had beaten the game and i didn't like it enough to play it more)
I liked it for the most part. But my big issue is as with most of ME3 the boss fight.
Its basically wait for the cutscene.
Cause I would have killed both of them about 60 times before it triggered.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 21, 2021 9:07:22 GMT -5
Finished citadel for the first time. (It came out well after I had beaten the game and i didn't like it enough to play it more) I liked it for the most part. But my big issue is as with most of ME3 the boss fight. Its basically wait for the cutscene. Cause I would have killed both of them about 60 times before it triggered. Same boat here, finished ME3 before Citadel and never went back. Looking forward to playing a new piece of the game when I finally get around to this remaster.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 21, 2021 18:47:36 GMT -5
Finished citadel for the first time. (It came out well after I had beaten the game and i didn't like it enough to play it more) I liked it for the most part. But my big issue is as with most of ME3 the boss fight. Its basically wait for the cutscene. Cause I would have killed both of them about 60 times before it triggered. The highlights of the Citadel DLC to me are the M-7 Lancer and the Armax Arena.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 21, 2021 19:06:21 GMT -5
Finished citadel for the first time. (It came out well after I had beaten the game and i didn't like it enough to play it more) I liked it for the most part. But my big issue is as with most of ME3 the boss fight. Its basically wait for the cutscene. Cause I would have killed both of them about 60 times before it triggered. The highlights of the Citadel DLC to me are the M-7 Labcer and the Armax Arena. The lancer is ok but I kinda like the Plasma Rifle better same basic idea with the heating but the Plasma melts people >_>
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 22, 2021 19:37:31 GMT -5
I am kinda stuck now... I want to sit around and play the Armax Arena... it's very similar to the Multiplayer at least in ideas....
but I should actually beat the game at some point... but... I can get things from the arena!
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Post by Cyno on Jun 22, 2021 19:42:22 GMT -5
So, I'm curious about something. As Mass Effect 3 Legendary doesn't have multiplayer, is Galactic Readiness just forever stuck at 50%, bumped to 100%, or is there another way to bump it up?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2021 19:44:29 GMT -5
So, I'm curious about something. As Mass Effect 3 Legendary doesn't have multiplayer, is Galactic Readiness just forever stuck at 50%, bumped to 100%, or is there another way to bump it up? They rebalanced it so you can achieve 100%, though they haven't necessarily made alterations to every readout.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 22, 2021 19:47:37 GMT -5
So, I'm curious about something. As Mass Effect 3 Legendary doesn't have multiplayer, is Galactic Readiness just forever stuck at 50%, bumped to 100%, or is there another way to bump it up? They rebalanced it so you can achieve 100%. So it's basically the Extended Cut DLC's rebalancing where you can get the better endings without touching any of the Galaxy at War stuff just as long as you do all the sidequests?
{Spoiler}For reference, I consider "Synthesis" and "Destroy but Shepard Survives" to be the better endings.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 22, 2021 19:50:09 GMT -5
They rebalanced it so you can achieve 100%. So it's basically the Extended Cut DLC's rebalancing where you can get the better endings without touching any of the Galaxy at War stuff just as long as you do all the sidequests? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}For reference, I consider "Synthesis" and "Destroy but Shepard Survives" to be the better endings. Basically, yeah.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 22, 2021 19:51:00 GMT -5
They rebalanced it so you can achieve 100%. So it's basically the Extended Cut DLC's rebalancing where you can get the better endings without touching any of the Galaxy at War stuff just as long as you do all the sidequests? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}For reference, I consider "Synthesis" and "Destroy but Shepard Survives" to be the better endings. Yeah, I have done everything and I'm at the top of the bar my understanding they rebalanced it so that if you go through the first two games first it's easier to get to the top. But yes, they actually balanced it so you can play the game and get the best endings.
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Post by Cyno on Jun 22, 2021 19:54:46 GMT -5
So it's basically the Extended Cut DLC's rebalancing where you can get the better endings without touching any of the Galaxy at War stuff just as long as you do all the sidequests? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}For reference, I consider "Synthesis" and "Destroy but Shepard Survives" to be the better endings. Basically, yeah. Fair enough. And with so much carrying over from ME1 and 2 into 3, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't want to use an imported Shepard from those games anyway. The only thing set in store with your imported Shepard are those choices, gender, and their first name.
But yeah, you could tell that making you play multiplayer or doing shit on the apps in order to get the better endings was such a blatant "EA" thing. The extended cut and the accompanying update rebalancing the EMS being a part of the game's original release would've saved both companies a ton of grief. Granted, I think there would've been blowback with the endings just because of how high expectations were. But the original endings were such halfassed bullshit. Even if the Extended Cut endings weren't to everyone's taste, at least some actual effort was put into them beyond a different colored explosion.
Unfortunately, the very uh, conclusive and wildly different nature of the endings makes a Mass Effect 4 in that timeframe all-but-impossible. That's probably why we got Andromeda instead while they try to figure out how to continue with even a new protagonist in the Milky Way.
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Post by Duke Cameron on Jun 22, 2021 23:26:39 GMT -5
Ranking the DLC:
1. Omega 2. Leviathan 3. Lair of the Shadow Broker 4. Citadel 5. Zaeed - Price of Revenge 6. Bring Down the Sky 7. Normandy Crash Site 8. Kasumi - Stolen Memory 9. Arrival 10. From Ashes 11. Overlord 12. Firewalker 13. Pinnacle Station
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 23, 2021 20:26:09 GMT -5
ah yes... the pullup bar... I vaguely remember this... and it is completely worthless... whoever designed that needs to be smacked.
anyway did the party... beat the arena... guess I may as well head to the end.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 23, 2021 20:37:59 GMT -5
ah yes... the pullup bar... I vaguely remember this... and it is completely worthless... whoever designed that needs to be smacked. And yet my pride prevents me from letting James win. It's hell of a troll move by BioWare. Honestly, I usually just end on the party. It's such a good way to end, I never have the heart to finish the rest of the game.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 24, 2021 2:30:06 GMT -5
ok that pistol you get from the citadel DLC is insane...
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 25, 2021 2:18:29 GMT -5
and just like that Reapers are destroyed. Not going to lie. The DLC added a lot to this game, if this was what it was launched with I think A LOT of people that had issues with the ending would have been more satisfied. the Citadel handles my excuse of the ME 2 people feeling completely left out. Maybe since I romanced Tali this go through the Liara romance seemed a lot less forced on you... The ending was still the ABC choice they swore it wasn't going to be since ME1 ... BUT the added dialogue options including stuff from the other DLCs at least way better explains WTF is even happening. Still did not like it as much as 2... but I think I might move it from my Good category to Great. {Spoiler}the Geth thing basically being useless annoys me still... and maybe since I knew it was coming it didn't phase me as much this time... still think that might be a sticking point for some.
Also I think they changed some dialogue of the kid... I thought I remembered it specifically mentioning Reaper Tech would be destroyed and not just Synthetics... maybe they realized that literally everything in ME universe is based on Reaper tech... Am debating running through the series again as a Renegade... but not sure yet... and if so what to make my Shep.
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