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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 4, 2021 21:51:59 GMT -5
Dylan Moran as The Doctor and Matt Berry as The Master, please. With Bill Bailey as a Companion.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 4, 2021 22:15:19 GMT -5
And bring Wilf along for an episode or two.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 4, 2021 22:31:59 GMT -5
It'll be a pity to see Jodie go so soon, and hope the era can end on a high despite the chaos of Covid filming. Definitely enjoyed Revolution, while there were a few aspects I wish it could have gone deeper into, like the Dalek-drone-police getting to be terrifying and insidious even before things escalated, it was a fun episode, wonderful to have Jack back, and nice to see a low-key companion departure for probably the first time since Martha.
Also, if anyone hasn't checked it out, Big Finish's tribute to 50 years of the Master, 'Masterful' is a chaotic but joyful romp, with several different Masters being invited to a party by John Simm's incarnation, only for Missy to crash it and send them all off into their own adventures, and from there it's even more chaos as they inevitably end up screwing each other over for personal gain. Really fun listen.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 4, 2021 23:34:51 GMT -5
It'll be a pity to see Jodie go so soon, and hope the era can end on a high despite the chaos of Covid filming. Definitely enjoyed Revolution, while there were a few aspects I wish it could have gone deeper into, like the Dalek-drone-police getting to be terrifying and insidious even before things escalated, it was a fun episode, wonderful to have Jack back, and nice to see a low-key companion departure for probably the first time since Martha. Also, if anyone hasn't checked it out, Big Finish's tribute to 50 years of the Master, 'Masterful' is a chaotic but joyful romp, with several different Masters being invited to a party by John Simm's incarnation, only for Missy to crash it and send them all off into their own adventures, and from there it's even more chaos as they inevitably end up screwing each other over for personal gain. Really fun listen. While the usual strong performers (Jacobi, Gomez, & MacQueen) were all great, I was really pleasantly surprised by Roberts finally starting to find a real voice for his Master and Beevers getting some good emotional material to sink his teeth into again. Part of me wishes that thing had been a four part box set so all the main pairings could have had their own individual stories to explore their dynamics more.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 4, 2021 23:50:49 GMT -5
It'll be a pity to see Jodie go so soon, and hope the era can end on a high despite the chaos of Covid filming. Definitely enjoyed Revolution, while there were a few aspects I wish it could have gone deeper into, like the Dalek-drone-police getting to be terrifying and insidious even before things escalated, it was a fun episode, wonderful to have Jack back, and nice to see a low-key companion departure for probably the first time since Martha. Also, if anyone hasn't checked it out, Big Finish's tribute to 50 years of the Master, 'Masterful' is a chaotic but joyful romp, with several different Masters being invited to a party by John Simm's incarnation, only for Missy to crash it and send them all off into their own adventures, and from there it's even more chaos as they inevitably end up screwing each other over for personal gain. Really fun listen. While the usual strong performers (Jacobi, Gomez, & MacQueen) were all great, I was really pleasantly surprised by Roberts finally starting to find a real voice for his Master and Beevers getting some good emotional material to sink his teeth into again. Part of me wishes that thing had been a four part box set so all the main pairings could have had their own individual stories to explore their dynamics more. Indeed! I've always had a soft spot for the TVM and Roberts' Master - even met him at a convention once and when he said he liked my Eight cosplay, told him I always dressed for the occasion - but it's really nice to see him get something a little deeper and that really manipulative side of the Master, and can't wait for his upcoming boxset so he can get a bit more exploration!
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Jan 6, 2021 3:48:32 GMT -5
I feel sorry for Jodie. She's going to end up alongside Colin Baker as a dark note of Doctor Who history when, like Colin, it's no fault of her own.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Jan 6, 2021 5:08:36 GMT -5
I feel sorry for Jodie. She's going to end up alongside Colin Baker as a dark note of Doctor Who history when, like Colin, it's no fault of her own. Jodie's great, Chris Chibnall has no ability to write a big story though and the Doctor should have big stories
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Post by mrtuesday on Jan 6, 2021 7:03:40 GMT -5
I feel sorry for Jodie. She's going to end up alongside Colin Baker as a dark note of Doctor Who history when, like Colin, it's no fault of her own. Big Finish's audio stories redeemed Six. So, we'll just have to wait for Big Finish's Thirteenth Doctor Adventures in...like...2030?
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Post by thechase on Jan 11, 2021 11:20:38 GMT -5
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Post by thechase on Jan 21, 2021 8:44:29 GMT -5
The next Classic Doctor Who box set to be released is series 24, Sylvester McCoy's debut as The Seventh Doctor, and is now tradition, the trailers announcing the blu-rays are woven around a special minisode reunitng a couple of familiar faces
But boy what a minisode, this time we get a proper Doctor and Companion reunion!
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Post by thechase on Jan 25, 2021 6:49:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 9:16:58 GMT -5
That URL makes it seem like Jodie Whittaker is quitting Doctor Who total nonsense series #13. That's a particular coding thing (picking words out of a web page's headline) that auto generates URLs ..... lol
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Post by thechase on Jan 25, 2021 10:57:23 GMT -5
It's now come to light The Sun dug up the 2019 Radio Times article that denied Jodie was leaving way back then (which was accurate at the time)
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Jan 25, 2021 12:12:32 GMT -5
Five months ago, that one guy who has found lots of older DW footage made up something on Twitter that JW was leaving come the Revolution (of the Daleks) episode. And that didn't happen. But that tweet was grist (and grift) for the rumour mill for quite a while.
All doctors leave eventually, so that shouldn't come across as news to people when JW departs some day.
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Post by thechase on Jan 25, 2021 12:17:38 GMT -5
Five months ago, that one guy who has found lots of older DW footage made up something on Twitter that JW was leaving come the Revolution (of the Daleks) episode. And that didn't happen. The word about that is that it ALMOST happened, but Jodie changed her mind last minute and they reshot the ending. I don't know how true that is, but I feel there was more to that 'chaos in cardiff' thing than meets the eye
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Post by DSR on Jan 26, 2021 2:43:57 GMT -5
We don't really use the threads for previous Series once they're done, so forgive me for dumping this in here.
About ten years ago I got into Doctor Who because I had a lot of friends that were into the show and I felt left out. So I watched at least one story from each of the classic Doctors, and watched all of the revival series from the beginning. All those friends I mentioned wound up leaving town (not because of me, their lives just went in different directions). I kept up with the series through "The Husbands of River Song" before I lost interest.
I recently found Series 8 on DVD at the Dollar Tree and rewatching some of that rekindled my interest in the show. So I took out all of the DVDs I picked up from my initial fascination and I've spent all of January watching the show in order (when I first watched those classic stories I just watched them as I got them rather than try to stick to chronology). I also picked up a few DVDs of stories I hadn't had prior and put them in where they're supposed to go.
At any rate, I have some thoughts:
Based on the earliest stories from 1963-64, it's strange to think this show would have the lasting impact that it has. Those early stories are so sparse in terms of action and so dialogue heavy, it's a wonder folks latched onto it. They devoted an entire episode during the Daleks' introductory serial to a small group of people jumping over a single chasm!
(I also watched the cinematic adaptation DR. WHO AND THE DALEKS, starring Peter Cushing. Tells the same story as the original Daleks serial, but sillier and faster. Also reimagines the Doctor as a human inventor rather than an alien, so that's weird.)
Also, it took about 11 episodes before Hartnell's Doctor even approached likability. After the first 3 serials I jumped ahead to The Aztecs, which was much better on that front.
Tomb of the Cybermen from the Troughton era made me a fan of the Cybermen.
Pertwee's Doctor is pretty fun. I'm a big fan of corny sci-fi, and what I have of the first two Doctors tries to downplay the corniness. Pertwee seems like he's having fun with it, which I like.
In general, I find that the stories I've read heralded as essential by the majority of fans (though I've never conducted a poll to be truly sure) tend to bore me, and the stuff that's been derided is right up my alley. As an example: I absolutely adore Colin Baker's Doctor. Can't get enough of him! And I'm only going by the TV show, I haven't heard a single audio adventure.
Moving onto the new series, I'll try to be brief since I've already been long-winded so far...
Eccleston remains my favorite Doctor. I have his whole series and I cried on three separate occasions revisiting it (Father's Day, The Doctor Dances, The Parting of the Ways).
Tennant's Doctor seems less likable on rewatch than I remember him being. Not like he's a total douche or anything, he just seems vaguely more smug this go around? Also, I will never understand the big to-do about Blink. I'm supposed to be scared of a monster whose victims...go back in time and meet the loves of their lives? OOOH, TERRIFYING!
For Smith, all I have is A Christmas Carol. Which is perfect for his fairy tale-take on the Doctor. Also, since it's a Christmas special, it's divorced from the season-long arcs I found largely unsatisfying of Smith's run. The individual episodes were fine, I recall, but the series finales were confusing messes that got hand-waved by the Doctor saying "timey wimey".
Capaldi I have a much greater appreciation for than I did when I watched as the show aired (as I mentioned, I initially lost interest during his run). Whatever my problems with his Doctor and Clara the companion at the time, I genuinely enjoy them and their dynamic now. I even made a point of running out to a store and picking up Twice Upon a Time so I could have another Capaldi story this month!
As part of this Jan-WHO-ary watchathon, I picked up Series 12 so I could include Jodie. Earlier tonight I watched Spyfall: Part One. It feels very different from everything I've watched from the show thus far, but that's because it's aping the style of a Daniel Craig James Bond flick (though with aliens, obviously). I liked the reveal at the end of the episode and I'm looking forward to making my way through this series to round out the month.
And then I'll be not completely caught up, but close enough to maybe continue watching the show from here on out...? If you stuck around to read all that, thanks!
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Post by thechase on Jan 26, 2021 4:37:04 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, always good to hear what other fans think of the various eras.
Yeah, the very early Hartnells are a tough sit besides a few choice highlights like the very first episode and a couple of episodes from the first Dalek serial, I'd have cut that down to maybe four or five parts rather than seven. Azteks is a classic so I'm glad you enjoyed it, though it's funny to watch that back now knowing the Doc winds up perfectly fine with time being rewritten beyond the points in history that are 'fixed', I wonder what Eleven would have done with Barbra if he'd been there?
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Post by DSR on Feb 1, 2021 0:16:39 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, always good to hear what other fans think of the various eras. Yeah, the very early Hartnells are a tough sit besides a few choice highlights like the very first episode and a couple of episodes from the first Dalek serial, I'd have cut that down to maybe four or five parts rather than seven. Azteks is a classic so I'm glad you enjoyed it, though it's funny to watch that back now knowing the Doc winds up perfectly fine with time being rewritten beyond the points in history that are 'fixed', I wonder what Eleven would have done with Barbra if he'd been there? It's interesting because The Azteks is, aside from the Doctor and his companions' presence, a purely historical story. And I can't recall the last purely historical, no sci-fi story Doctor Who has done. Might be interesting to see a new attempt at it, though folks that are fond of big spectacle might be turned off by it. At any rate, I've now watched Series 12 and Revolution of the Daleks to finish out my Jan-WHO-ary marathon (yeah, I skipped Series 11...but then I didn't catch everything everyone else did, either). Here are my minor, disjointed thoughts about the experience of watching Jodie's Doctor: I really don't get shipping with Thirteen. She seems completely uninterested in anything to do with romance or love. I don't mind that, as it's a nice change of pace from all the flirtation the last few Doctors got up to with their respective companions. But watching Thirteen, I don't get the idea of pairing her up with anyone at any time. Graham is, like, the sweetest dude ever. I love him! It feels like the writers gave him all the warmth and heart that Thirteen can't display because of her social awkwardness. It's a bummer that he left the show, but he and Ryan had a really great moment at the end of Revolution of the Daleks. Ryan and Yaz seem underwritten. Jo Martin's Doctor was intriguing, and I liked her performance, but The Endless Child reveal at the end of Series 12 just kinda fell flat to me. There's a tiny bit of intrigue to where the Doctor actually comes from, but the idea that the Doctor can regenerate indefinitely takes away some drama from the show. But, like it's been mentioned in Series 12's thread, a later showrunner will write something that contradicts this some day, so it's not a big bother. The new Master is pretty cool. Sacha Dhawan is great at scenery chewing. His reveal in Spyfall and when he pulled out a matchbox with a tiny man inside, it was so ridiculous I couldn't help but love it. Favorite episodes of Thirteen's run I've seen include Spyfall Part 1, Nikola Tesla, Villa Diodati, and Ascension of the Cybermen.
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Post by thechase on Feb 1, 2021 5:00:43 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that, always good to hear what other fans think of the various eras. Yeah, the very early Hartnells are a tough sit besides a few choice highlights like the very first episode and a couple of episodes from the first Dalek serial, I'd have cut that down to maybe four or five parts rather than seven. Azteks is a classic so I'm glad you enjoyed it, though it's funny to watch that back now knowing the Doc winds up perfectly fine with time being rewritten beyond the points in history that are 'fixed', I wonder what Eleven would have done with Barbra if he'd been there? It's interesting because The Azteks is, aside from the Doctor and his companions' presence, a purely historical story. And I can't recall the last purely historical, no sci-fi story Doctor Who has done. Might be interesting to see a new attempt at it, though folks that are fond of big spectacle might be turned off by it. At any rate, I've now watched Series 12 and Revolution of the Daleks to finish out my Jan-WHO-ary marathon (yeah, I skipped Series 11...but then I didn't catch everything everyone else did, either). Here are my minor, disjointed thoughts about the experience of watching Jodie's Doctor: I really don't get shipping with Thirteen. She seems completely uninterested in anything to do with romance or love. I don't mind that, as it's a nice change of pace from all the flirtation the last few Doctors got up to with their respective companions. But watching Thirteen, I don't get the idea of pairing her up with anyone at any time. Graham is, like, the sweetest dude ever. I love him! It feels like the writers gave him all the warmth and heart that Thirteen can't display because of her social awkwardness. It's a bummer that he left the show, but he and Ryan had a really great moment at the end of Revolution of the Daleks. Ryan and Yaz seem underwritten. Jo Martin's Doctor was intriguing, and I liked her performance, but The Endless Child reveal at the end of Series 12 just kinda fell flat to me. There's a tiny bit of intrigue to where the Doctor actually comes from, but the idea that the Doctor can regenerate indefinitely takes away some drama from the show. But, like it's been mentioned in Series 12's thread, a later showrunner will write something that contradicts this some day, so it's not a big bother. The new Master is pretty cool. Sacha Dhawan is great at scenery chewing. His reveal in Spyfall and when he pulled out a matchbox with a tiny man inside, it was so ridiculous I couldn't help but love it. Favorite episodes of Thirteen's run I've seen include Spyfall Part 1, Nikola Tesla, Villa Diodati, and Ascension of the Cybermen. The last pure historical on TV was during the Fifth Doctor's era in the rather tepid two-parter "Black Orchid", but there's been a few historicals made for the Big Finish audio range. Yeah, the lack of romantic interest from Thirteen compared to other types of incarnations is peculiar given she said she was a bit of a romantic in "Praxeus". I do admit to 'shipping her with the likes of The Master, Jack, and even Graham in fanfics, but not to the level the die-hards do with Thirteen and Yaz. Yaz just doesn't interest me, and it's a shame I have to deal with her for another series compared to Graham. I was glad there was somewhat of a pay-off to "Can You Hear Me?" with Thirteen and Graham hugging it out before he left. Gives me rocket fuel for a few more fanfics.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 1, 2021 14:48:58 GMT -5
I can't remember them doing a 'pure historical' yet in Nu Who. There's always been some kind of alien or time traveler or alien time traveler in there somewhere.
And Classic Who went that way quickly, too. As mentioned, Black Orchid was the last in the classic show, and before then you have to go all the way back to the Second Doctor's second story - The Highlanders.
Big Finish have done a whole bunch, thankfully, but in terms of the tv show they sadly were only really a thing for the First Doctor, as they tended to alternate between sci-fi/future/space adventures with historicals in turn. I say sadly because, while the prevailing wisdom was that they just didn't have enough of a gimmick to grab an audience, nearly all the best Hartnell stories were those historicals, I'd argue. The Aztecs, Marco Polo, The Romans, The Crusade and The Massacre are all good.
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