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Post by gl83 on Dec 2, 2020 1:52:23 GMT -5
There we go Knew it was something hand related. Either way, she took time off a little after that but I think they leave the crazy shit for Shotzi I can see it ending with Shotzi doing her Senton off the top of the cage on Candice through a table. Can also see a scenario where the Heels win due to Shotzi getting a bit overzealous and doing something crazy/stupid and it backfiring on her allowing Candice to steal the win. It continues the feud between Shotzi/Candice and the War Games victory coupled with her recent Heel turn could set up Toni as Io's next challenger.
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Post by mistery on Dec 2, 2020 10:07:02 GMT -5
I can see it ending with Shotzi doing her Senton off the top of the cage on Candice through a table. Can also see a scenario where the Heels win due to Shotzi getting a bit overzealous and doing something crazy/stupid and it backfiring on her allowing Candice to steal the win. It continues the feud between Shotzi/Candice and the War Games victory coupled with her recent Heel turn could set up Toni as Io's next challenger. Possibly. But WWE is also running a risk if they decide to do Toni/Io, because neither woman can really afford a loss, however... Toni hasn't really done anything worthy to actually be champion, and her career in WWE so far can be summed up as almost a complete disaster. It's why I'm utterly baffled why people keep talking her up like she's some prodigy in the ring, when in reality she's mediocre at best, downright awful at worst. This heel turn seems like a last ditch effort to make her relevant, because right now she's the furthest thing from being worthy of being the face of the NXT Women's Division. It feels more like people want to see her as champion because they find her attractive, nothing more than that. But regardless, I think the faces are winning. Having the heels run wild over the division for the past month and making pretty much every single face look bad is awful booking, especially if there is zero comeuppance from it.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 2, 2020 12:41:37 GMT -5
^^^ Lordy, I’m pretty vocal about how Toni Storm has been pretty underwhelming at best and even I think that’s a scathing review of her WWE work. Lmao
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 2, 2020 12:44:38 GMT -5
I think with Storm there was a case of the loudest voice in the room being her biggest fan (referring to a former poster here), so that might have skewed perceptions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 12:48:25 GMT -5
Can't say it does not make me a little weary that they have yet not announced the last spot on Shotzis team because it should be obvious but also makes me think maybe HHH wants to replicate the KO thing from last year but this time with the women and that last spot wont go to who everyone expects it to be.
Hope she is on the team it makes the most sense but would not surprise me if HHH had something else up his sleeve for Io.
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Post by gl83 on Dec 2, 2020 17:40:21 GMT -5
Can't say it does not make me a little weary that they have yet not announced the last spot on Shotzis team because it should be obvious but also makes me think maybe HHH wants to replicate the KO thing from last year but this time with the women and that last spot wont go to who everyone expects it to be. Hope she is on the team it makes the most sense but would not surprise me if HHH had something else up his sleeve for Io. The difference is that the men's team was already filled up beforehand, but then Gargano got taken out, and they pulled Riddle from the Wargames match to face Finn Balor creating a vacancy on Team Ciampa. If anything, they're probably going to re-enact Kay Lee Ray's enlistment and have Io get involved in the ladder match tonight and help Team Shotzi secure the numbers advantage at War Games.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 22:30:00 GMT -5
I think with Storm there was a case of the loudest voice in the room being her biggest fan (referring to a former poster here), so that might have skewed perceptions. Even I was disappointed with her work in NXT UK, but I've had zero problems with her NXT run so far. I thought we were also past the "People only like him/her because they find them attractive" stuff, but I guess not. It'd be like me saying because I find Asuka boring right now people only want her to stay champ because they find her attractive, which would be BS. Not liking someone's work is fine, but playing that card is just silly.
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Post by hbkid718 on Dec 2, 2020 22:32:23 GMT -5
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Post by mistery on Dec 2, 2020 22:36:09 GMT -5
I think with Storm there was a case of the loudest voice in the room being her biggest fan (referring to a former poster here), so that might have skewed perceptions. Even I was disappointed with her work in NXT UK, but I've had zero problems with her NXT run so far. I thought we were also past the "People only like him/her because they find them attractive" stuff, but I guess not. It'd be like me saying I find Asuka boring right now and people only want her to stay champ because they find her attractive, which would be BS. Not liking someone's work is fine, but playing that card is just silly. I think the issue I have is that everyone I've seen who talks about her only comments on how she looks, and assumes she is great because of that. She's a pretty below average wrestler, especially with how stacked the NXT Women's division is these days. Regardless, I see Team Shotzi winning on Sunday. Some have said Toni needs to pin Io, but NXT is really good at building up contenders without having them pin the champion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 22:36:27 GMT -5
I've got Team Shotzi, F.T.B. (I think that's Pat's stable's name now?), Ruff, Grimes, and Ciampa winning.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2020 22:38:09 GMT -5
Even I was disappointed with her work in NXT UK, but I've had zero problems with her NXT run so far. I thought we were also past the "People only like him/her because they find them attractive" stuff, but I guess not. It'd be like me saying I find Asuka boring right now and people only want her to stay champ because they find her attractive, which would be BS. Not liking someone's work is fine, but playing that card is just silly. I think the issue I have is that everyone I've seen who talks about her only comments on how she looks, and assumes she is great because of that. She's a pretty below average wrestler, especially with how stacked the NXT Women's division is these days. Regardless, I see Team Shotzi winning on Sunday. Some have said Toni needs to pin Io, but NXT is really good at building up contenders without having them pin the champion. Well, I find Mia Yim attractive and still think she's mediocre in every single way, so I don't care about anything she does. I can understand where you're coming from, I make jokes about her butt like everyone else but I'm focused more on the work than anything and I think she's been pretty good with this change of scenery. She's not quite on the level of Io, Rhea, or even Ember in the ring, but I'd say she's in the next tier with Shotzi, Candice, and Dakota. Anyway I'll just leave it at that and get back to talking about the show.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2020 0:47:49 GMT -5
Updated with the "finalized" card
Io Shirai is added to Team Shotzi and we have Ciampa vs Thatcher as well
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 3, 2020 15:27:20 GMT -5
Can't say it does not make me a little weary that they have yet not announced the last spot on Shotzis team because it should be obvious but also makes me think maybe HHH wants to replicate the KO thing from last year but this time with the women and that last spot wont go to who everyone expects it to be. Hope she is on the team it makes the most sense but would not surprise me if HHH had something else up his sleeve for Io. The difference is that the men's team was already filled up beforehand, but then Gargano got taken out, and they pulled Riddle from the Wargames match to face Finn Balor creating a vacancy on Team Ciampa. If anything, they're probably going to re-enact Kay Lee Ray's enlistment and have Io get involved in the ladder match tonight and help Team Shotzi secure the numbers advantage at War Games. Sure enough....
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 3, 2020 15:50:11 GMT -5
Team Shotzi is so damn coooool.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 16:17:15 GMT -5
Faces having the advantage is certainly a choice.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 3, 2020 17:34:31 GMT -5
Faces having the advantage is certainly a choice. In fairness, everyone on Team Shotzi isn't a cookie cutter face except Ember and even then she's been talking shit (badly) to somewhat spice it up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 17:41:28 GMT -5
The faces having the advantage makes it just a bit interesing.
Did they get the advantage because Candices team is basically 5 people when u include Indi?
Is someone going to betray the babyface team?
IMO there are interesting questions to raise as to why they got the advantage more so than if the heels got it and it being just a complete give that the babyfaces win.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2020 18:05:17 GMT -5
I want Team Candice to stay together as the mean girl clique of NXT even after WarGames. They're entertaining together and Indi hanging around them with her neck brace is funny.
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Post by glorious83 on Dec 3, 2020 20:27:02 GMT -5
I want Team Candice to stay together as the mean girl clique of NXT even after WarGames. They're entertaining together and Indi hanging around them with her neck brace is funny. Indie with her neck brace is the Bob Orton with the cast for this day and age.
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Post by häšhtå.gdālėÿ on Dec 3, 2020 22:52:08 GMT -5
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