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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 27, 2021 6:07:31 GMT -5
Raiden is the most usless here. "I cannot interfere." No, but you can enforce the f******g rules. As soon as Shang Tsung arrived after the barrier broke, he was well within his role to start blasting lightning left and right. Especially if he wasn't sitting in his stone room doing nothing all day. You would also think he would have somebody keeping an eye on the staff that creates the barrier. You sir, are no Christopher Lambert Especially when Shang Tsung is invading your space and outright saying the rules are out the door because the Gods not even doing anything to stop him
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 27, 2021 7:26:10 GMT -5
Raiden is the most usless here. "I cannot interfere." No, but you can enforce the f******g rules. As soon as Shang Tsung arrived after the barrier broke, he was well within his role to start blasting lightning left and right. Especially if he wasn't sitting in his stone room doing nothing all day. You would also think he would have somebody keeping an eye on the staff that creates the barrier. You sir, are no Christopher Lambert
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Post by chrom on Apr 27, 2021 8:42:20 GMT -5
Raiden is the most usless here. "I cannot interfere." No, but you can enforce the f******g rules. As soon as Shang Tsung arrived after the barrier broke, he was well within his role to start blasting lightning left and right. Especially if he wasn't sitting in his stone room doing nothing all day. You would also think he would have somebody keeping an eye on the staff that creates the barrier. You sir, are no Christopher Lambert Heck, Shang Tsung said openly that he's been blatantly cheating the whole time for 500 years.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 13:07:45 GMT -5
Honestly this basically just is a Mortal Kombat Conquest movie. Cole is pretty much Siro.
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Post by xCompackx on Apr 27, 2021 13:45:58 GMT -5
Raiden is the most usless here. "I cannot interfere." No, but you can enforce the f******g rules. As soon as Shang Tsung arrived after the barrier broke, he was well within his role to start blasting lightning left and right. Especially if he wasn't sitting in his stone room doing nothing all day. You would also think he would have somebody keeping an eye on the staff that creates the barrier. You sir, are no Christopher Lambert In fairness, Raiden's portrayal in the movie matches how he's often portrayed in the games. Look at parts of MK9 and all of MK11; dude's pretty useless. Hold up though, gotta consult with the Elder Gods.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 27, 2021 17:08:59 GMT -5
That felt like the TV movie pilot for a Mortal Kombat ScyFy series
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Apr 28, 2021 8:18:14 GMT -5
Honestly this basically just is a Mortal Kombat Conquest movie. Cole is pretty much Siro. We just him to angrily crumple paper while declaring "That's it!"
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 28, 2021 9:11:01 GMT -5
More thought out now that I’ve had more time to digest this {Spoiler} -Opening was awesome
-Didn’t hate Cole, didn’t like Cole. He was fine. At least it wasn’t Sam Worthington
-Kano was a scene stealer. Kabal, I’m still not sure how I feel about
-This movie really exposes the biggest issue with translating Mortal Kombat to movies, you have to kill off characters or the movie has no teeth but most characters have such an interesting story and lore behind them that fans don’t wanna see them killed off without having a chance to develop.
-Take Goro for example, he gets a cool 5 minutes in the movie with minimal buildup or character, then gets killed as a stepping stone on Cole’s journey. No big deal in the context of the movie, fun scene, served it’s purpose of moving Cole’s growth along. But if you’re a fan of the movie you’re likely “What the f***ing f***? Goro goes out like a bitch after 5 minutes in the first movie?”
-None of these characters were particularly interesting, the story was there, the effects were hit and miss. Honestly didn’t feel like a particularly well put together movie
-The whole “unlock your inner power” bullshit is so overdone, I’d much rather they just say f*** it and drop us into a world where these powers already exist.
-I spent most of the movie feeling like this was a 2 hour prologue for a Mortal Kombat movie before settling on my ScyFy pilot analogy. For a $55 million budget this movie had a very DTV feel to it.
-Didn’t hate the movie, it was just kinda there. If they do any sort of follow up, I’ll definitely give it a shot but I won’t loose sleep if they don’t.
-Honestly, I’d almost guarantee I watch MK 95 or Annihilation again before circling back to this one. Those movies are just plain fun
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 12:46:54 GMT -5
I'm kind of wondering why they didn't just use Kintaro instead of Goro. {Spoiler}He tends to be treated much more disposably in the games so there's nothing really wrong with just killing him off right away and visually he's clearly distinct from Goro so it'd help avoid comparisons to the original. You could even bring up the whole, "striped commoner," thing as a handwave for why Cole was able to beat him but Goro's still a threat if you wanted to explore that later.
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Post by Cela on Apr 29, 2021 1:23:48 GMT -5
That was pretty bad.
Cole had no charisma whatsoever, Raiden sucked as a character and a screen presence, and with a few exceptions, the fight choreography was pretty lame. The effects in the fights were good, but the punching and kicking was lame.
Also, thought it was weird that Cole kept getting takedowns, but then would realize he was in a Mortal Kombat movie, and they'd awkwardly stand up.
Why is Liu Kang a side character who will probably get killed off in the first 10 minutes of the sequel to help Cole's amazing journey of Coledom?
Lastly, the Scorpion's Revenge movie on HBO Max with Joel McHale as Johnny Cage covered a sizeable amount of the plot better.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 29, 2021 7:25:20 GMT -5
As far as my impression as a whole. I really wanted to like this movie. I did. The free intro they put up on youtube had me turn my mind around and decide to give this a chance. That of course didn't pan out. It's a shame Kano's presence and some of the good fight scenes got wasted on a film like this.
Also, this felt like a PG-13 movie that just happen to have R rated gore. If the pandemic wasn't a thing and the studios suddenly felt like they wanted a pg-13 cut for the theaters, I bet it would have been very easy to do that in post.
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Post by fw91 on Apr 29, 2021 10:31:11 GMT -5
Still need to give this a watch, but it sounds like a prequel to the first tournament?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 29, 2021 10:54:21 GMT -5
Still need to give this a watch, but it sounds like a prequel to the first tournament? Pretty much
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Post by Glitch on Apr 30, 2021 5:05:11 GMT -5
This may be just my own tastes, but I really don't like how Cole was an mma fighter. Or rather, I don't like when mma is put into martial arts films of this type. Mma is supposed to be what martial arts look like when applied to the real world, and what is actually successful in a real fight. This doesn't work in a world where you have Lin Kui, ninjas, and warrior monks who's fighting styles effectively work in actual combat.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 30, 2021 8:31:46 GMT -5
Finally got to watch the whole thing last night. Some quick observations:
The script is clunky as hell. Pretty much everything Raiden, Liu Kang and Kung Lao is absolute garbage. That's some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard spat out in a major motion picture, and a few of the other characters' lines are so on the nose it's painful. "I am Scorpion now." Really?
"I have risen from Hell to kill you" is a great line though. Put that shit on a business card.
Cole is a pointless addition. There's nothing about his story that couldn't have been done with another character - family aside, his story is a retread of Liu's in the '95 movie. Absolutely reeks of Milla Jovovich in the Resident Evil movies.
Y'all cast Hiroyuki Sanada in this thing and then give him two scenes. Really?
Arcana? GTFO with that shit. It's a movie with hellfire demons, vampire bat people, soul-sucking sorcerers, and four-armed giants. How about some people just have magic, huh?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 9:13:01 GMT -5
This may be just my own tastes, but I really don't like how Cole was an mma fighter. Or rather, I don't like when mma is put into martial arts films of this type. Mma is supposed to be what martial arts look like when applied to the real world, and what is actually successful in a real fight. This doesn't work in a world where you have Lin Kui, ninjas, and warrior monks who's fighting styles effectively work in actual combat. I am in the same glitchy boat you are. When it comes to martial arts movies especially FANTASTICAL ones I don't need slow plodding fight scenes...I know it likely is an unfair bar to use to compare but The Raid movies , the night comes for us etc those are the types of fights any martial arts fight scenes should be aspiring to today and those were suppose to be movies grounded in mostly reality.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 30, 2021 9:13:14 GMT -5
Finally got to watch the whole thing last night. Some quick observations: The script is clunky as hell. Pretty much everything Raiden, Liu Kang and Kung Lao is absolute garbage. That's some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard spat out in a major motion picture, and a few of the other characters' lines are so on the nose it's painful. "I am Scorpion now." Really? The dialogue was legit some of the worst I’ve seen in a theatrical release in a long time. A lot of it came across like a cheaply dubbed 70’s Kung Fu that was rushed out. Could not agree more, the whole arcana thing sucked. Just drop us in the damn world and let us put things together ourselves, this is Mortal f***ing Kombat it ain’t Inception. Anyone going to this movie has already bought into the concept and the powers and shit, we don’t really need the fireball origin story.
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Post by Starshine on Apr 30, 2021 19:26:46 GMT -5
Does this movie feel like it's missing its final act? It just sort of ends, without really resolving anything of note beyond the Sub-Zero thing.
Like, it doesn't even really feel like it left a whole lot interesting for a sequel besides what we already expected from this movie.
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Post by chrom on Apr 30, 2021 20:08:54 GMT -5
Just once I'd like my boy Reptile to be something other than a ham n egger who goes down in under a minute.
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Post by Glitch on Apr 30, 2021 21:59:22 GMT -5
This may be just my own tastes, but I really don't like how Cole was an mma fighter. Or rather, I don't like when mma is put into martial arts films of this type. Mma is supposed to be what martial arts look like when applied to the real world, and what is actually successful in a real fight. This doesn't work in a world where you have Lin Kui, ninjas, and warrior monks who's fighting styles effectively work in actual combat. I am in the same glitchy boat you are. When it comes to martial arts movies especially FANTASTICAL ones I don't need slow plodding fight scenes...I know it likely is an unfair bar to use to compare but The Raid movies , the night comes for us etc those are the types of fights any martial arts fight scenes should be aspiring to today and those were suppose to be movies grounded in mostly reality. Reminds me of Bobby Heenan saying something a long the lines of wrestling shouldn't look like a real fight, because a real fight is two guys dragging each other to the ground. In a world where we have acrobatic fights with ninjas, no one wants to see two dudes dry hump.
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