Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 0:44:32 GMT -5
Who's fighting Goro in the trailer? I paused it but I wasn't able to make out who that was.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 0:53:08 GMT -5
Who's fighting Goro in the trailer? I paused it but I wasn't able to make out who that was. I think it might be Cole? He's the closest match for the haircut, though I dunno what's going on with his back and arms.
|
|
|
Post by Hobby Drifter on Feb 19, 2021 1:30:54 GMT -5
I know the newbie is a sensitive topic, but having an unknown character as an audience/player surrogate in a video game movie makes a lot of sense. It’s not Liu Kang’s movie or Johnny Cage’s movie. It’s a Mortal Kombat movie. If this works, I could see it becoming more prevalent in game adaptations going forward. The trailer got me pretty hyped. Yeah, but most games have like main characters that the story revolves around. Even Mortal Kombat does. the First like 3 games Liu Kang is pretty definitively the main character. You might have more of a point with Street Fighter 2 where Ryu is generally considered the main character but really has f*** all to do with the actual story being told and just wants to punch things... One of the problems with having Liu Kang be the main character is that he doesn’t seem to be many people’s favorite character. I know I’ve never found him to be very interesting. Having it be Sonya/Jax makes it more of a US military movie than a film going for an international appeal is maybe comfortable with. Johnny Cage would make sense, but as others have pointed out “asshole movie star” isn’t the most relatable character. If this Cole character does wind up being Johnny Cage or Stryker, or Cabal, or Smoke or something, that’ll set up nicely for a sequel.
|
|
|
Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 19, 2021 9:55:54 GMT -5
I know the newbie is a sensitive topic, but having an unknown character as an audience/player surrogate in a video game movie makes a lot of sense. It’s not Liu Kang’s movie or Johnny Cage’s movie. It’s a Mortal Kombat movie. If this works, I could see it becoming more prevalent in game adaptations going forward. The trailer got me pretty hyped. Yeah, but most games have like main characters that the story revolves around. Even Mortal Kombat does. the First like 3 games Liu Kang is pretty definitively the main character. You might have more of a point with Street Fighter 2 where Ryu is generally considered the main character but really has f*** all to do with the actual story being told and just wants to punch things... It’s partly why Guile and Chun Li became so iconic despite being supporting characters. They’re the heroes directly trying to fight Shadaloo, while Ryu is fixated on personal growth but his power level makes Bison interested in him and his inner Satsui no Hado keeps him on Akuma’s mind. So Chun and Guile wind up with a heavy focus in a lot of adaptions (especially in the US, where Ryu and Ken were more minor characters in the Van Damme film and USA cartoon), which I imagine influenced how Netherrealm tend to market Jax and Sonya.
|
|
|
Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 19, 2021 10:00:57 GMT -5
Yeah, but most games have like main characters that the story revolves around. Even Mortal Kombat does. the First like 3 games Liu Kang is pretty definitively the main character. You might have more of a point with Street Fighter 2 where Ryu is generally considered the main character but really has f*** all to do with the actual story being told and just wants to punch things... One of the problems with having Liu Kang be the main character is that he doesn’t seem to be many people’s favorite character. I know I’ve never found him to be very interesting. Having it be Sonya/Jax makes it more of a US military movie than a film going for an international appeal is maybe comfortable with. Johnny Cage would make sense, but as others have pointed out “asshole movie star” isn’t the most relatable character. If this Cole character does wind up being Johnny Cage or Stryker, or Cabal, or Smoke or something, that’ll set up nicely for a sequel. There could easily be character development where Cage starts out as an asshole movie star, but becomes more committed to being a true good guy once he understands the weight of the situation (basically like how they handled him from MKs 9 to 11.).
|
|
|
Post by Cyno on Feb 19, 2021 10:03:55 GMT -5
I thought Guile was considered the main character of SF2? Ryu I think was considered the main character of SF1 and Alpha while Alex was SF3's main character. I don't know about SF4 and 5.
|
|
xCompackx
Wade Wilson
Posts: 27,226
Member is Online
|
Post by xCompackx on Feb 19, 2021 10:06:47 GMT -5
Yeah, but most games have like main characters that the story revolves around. Even Mortal Kombat does. the First like 3 games Liu Kang is pretty definitively the main character. You might have more of a point with Street Fighter 2 where Ryu is generally considered the main character but really has f*** all to do with the actual story being told and just wants to punch things... One of the problems with having Liu Kang be the main character is that he doesn’t seem to be many people’s favorite character. I know I’ve never found him to be very interesting. Having it be Sonya/Jax makes it more of a US military movie than a film going for an international appeal is maybe comfortable with. Johnny Cage would make sense, but as others have pointed out “asshole movie star” isn’t the most relatable character. If this Cole character does wind up being Johnny Cage or Stryker, or Cabal, or Smoke or something, that’ll set up nicely for a sequel. It's always funny to me how pre-MK9, they did the "John Cena" approach with Liu Kang where they gave him all of these tournament victories to make him out as the top guy, but he didn't even start gaining any personality until MK9. I always thought Raiden was more the main character as he's usually involved with everything anyway.
|
|
H-Virus
Hank Scorpio
A Real Contagious Experience
Posts: 5,961
|
Post by H-Virus on Feb 19, 2021 10:19:31 GMT -5
My only gripe right now after the trailer is Mileenas entire exsistence as there is no Kitana and that is not some small thing they can just gloss over. I was thinking that same thing, but since I haven’t played an MK game in over a decade I wondered if the whole clone thing had been retconned out at some point, but apparently not.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2021 10:22:29 GMT -5
My only gripe right now after the trailer is Mileenas entire exsistence as there is no Kitana and that is not some small thing they can just gloss over. I was thinking that same thing, but since I haven’t played an MK game in over a decade I wondered if the whole clone thing had been retconned out at some point, but apparently not. Nah she is still a clone that never changed The only thing they have changed about Mileena over the years is her appearance
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2021 10:47:29 GMT -5
I assume Kano starts off as a good guy, but gradually shows his true colors and decides to betray the Earth fighters. Scorpion could just be a tweener pitted against the apparent bad guy Sub-Zero. Which falls in line with the later games.
|
|
|
Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 19, 2021 10:49:23 GMT -5
I thought Guile was considered the main character of SF2? Ryu I think was considered the main character of SF1 and Alpha while Alex was SF3's main character. I don't know about SF4 and 5. SF2's lack of structured plot makes determining the lead character difficult, though the fact that Ryu was consistently the most heavily-featured character in the original advertising, and was usually the focus character in arcade posters and box art suggest Capcom's intention was for him to continue to be the lead. Guile as the lead wasn't really a thing until it started to be adapted for other media, where it made sense to make the American military character the focus to appeal to the biggest market.
|
|
|
Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 19, 2021 10:51:05 GMT -5
I thought Guile was considered the main character of SF2? Ryu I think was considered the main character of SF1 and Alpha while Alex was SF3's main character. I don't know about SF4 and 5. Alex was very much SF3's star, in fact Ryu and Ken were added to the game later in development. He got a following mostly among the hardcore players, as he's a grappler and thus has a harder learning curve than Ryu's basic executions. SF4 put focus on Abel (another grappler, very good but not quite beginner-friendly) as the lead, but he wasn't marketed as heavily alongside Ryu and Ken to the degree Alex was (those two made the cover, Abel was absent). For SF5, it was back to Ryu/Ken/Chun/Guile/Cammy. Rashid, while high-tier in the game, is kind of a minor hero who's tagging along. Whenever I play MK, Liu is fairly easy for me to "unga-bunga" play with. Like Ryu/Ken, Terry/Kyo in KOF or Jin in Tekken, I think the best option for a fighting game hero is to keep their inputs easy to figure out and combo with if you're starting out.
|
|
|
Post by Cyno on Feb 19, 2021 11:15:59 GMT -5
Also I'm expecting Kitana to be in this movie or at the very least its sequel. She just wasn't in the trailer.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2021 11:18:26 GMT -5
I assume Kano starts off as a good guy, but gradually shows his true colors and decides to betray the Earth fighters. Scorpion could just be a tweener pitted against the apparent bad guy Sub-Zero. Which falls in line with the later games. Until they threw it all out the window in 11 with Boon going crazy
|
|
ronin705
Dennis Stamp
All Might
Posts: 4,277
|
Post by ronin705 on Feb 19, 2021 12:39:50 GMT -5
Which falls in line with the later games. Until they threw it all out the window in 11 with Boon going crazy Which is weird, cuz we really didnt even enter MK4 (as a tournament, Shinnoks just been a looming threat) in this new "era" so no Kai, Reiko, and others. So maybe 12 is nother reboot going from there??
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2021 12:41:47 GMT -5
Until they threw it all out the window in 11 with Boon going crazy Which is weird, cuz we really didnt even enter MK4 (as a tournament, Shinnoks just been a looming threat) in this new "era" so no Kai, Reiko, and others. So maybe 12 is nother reboot going from there?? 12 is going from the very beginning with Kung Lao so it is essentially a prequel reboot but he shouldn't be pulling time paradox out his ass again
|
|
|
Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 19, 2021 12:52:50 GMT -5
Scorpion was always meant to be more of the tweener / good guy of the two ninjas in the original.
people just assumed since you know... Scorpion is a demonic skeleton that Sub Zero was the good guy.
Even though things like killing Scorpions entire family were supposed to make it clear Sub Zero was evil...
So they made Sub Zero 2 in Mortal Kombat 2 + be a good guy.
|
|
chrom
Backup Wench
Master of the rare undecuple post
Posts: 84,562
Member is Online
|
Post by chrom on Feb 19, 2021 12:59:40 GMT -5
The original Sub Zero was hired to kill Shang Tsung which is why he took part in the first tournament and beforehand was hired by Quan Chi to retrieve a Map which lead to Scorpion's death. He didn't even know that the Shirai Ryu was wiped out by Quan Chi until after getting it.
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2021 13:04:42 GMT -5
Scorpion was always meant to be more of the tweener / good guy of the two ninjas in the original. people just assumed since you know... Scorpion is a demonic skeleton that Sub Zero was the good guy. Even though things like killing Scorpions entire family were supposed to make it clear Sub Zero was evil... So they made Sub Zero 2 in Mortal Kombat 2 + be a good guy. Quan Chi f***ed over everyone
|
|
|
Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 19, 2021 13:07:13 GMT -5
The original Sub Zero was hired to kill Shang Tsung which is why he took part in the first tournament and beforehand was hired by Quan Chi to retrieve a Map which lead to Scorpion's death. He didn't even know that the Shirai Ryu was wiped out by Quan Chi until after getting it. Right Sub Zero and Scorpion had beef but he didn't stoop low enough to actually kill his family and by extension wipe out his clan as well. Quan Chi manipulated all scenes to get it to go his way Over the years they seem to be having Scorpion catch on to Quan Chi schemes sooner then he has before
|
|