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Post by wildojinx on Dec 19, 2020 12:07:35 GMT -5
I kind of wish James would bring back his Playlist Junkie videos. It's neat to hear him talk about music.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 19, 2020 12:33:08 GMT -5
I'm seeing a lot of Peter Pan Syndrome in James (he seems to want to stay a kid/teenager) and the older he gets the more unsettling it is... especially since he's a father. I think there may be some truth to that, I think more than anything his movie not taking off caused alot of strife with him. I think he wants to do other stuff but he's stuck. In reality Mike Matei in real life is alot closer to the AVGN character but he's not a good face for a channel, time moves on and things change.
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 19, 2020 13:06:01 GMT -5
I think 1 thing to actually take from this video is a question does get answered. Why does James have no time? Because James plays in a band..that's his new passion and AVGN is just the day job these days. Probably explains that cool new nerd shirt that shows off his tat also. Perhaps his wife has a 9-5 an he’s primary care giver? Cant say I’m particularly familiar with his personal situation
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 19, 2020 13:58:05 GMT -5
The guy makes a pretty decent living off of YouTube.
If the whole enterprise went south, he still has an education in actual film production and clearly has a massive amount of real world experience by this point.
I'd agree he may not really want to do AVGN anymore (hence farming out the production), but he's smart enough to recognize it's the cash cow and opens up the option to do other stuff he cares about more.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 19, 2020 14:04:16 GMT -5
The guy makes a pretty decent living off of YouTube. If the whole enterprise went south, he still has an education in actual film production and clearly has a massive amount of real world experience by this point. I'd agree he may not really want to do AVGN anymore (hence farming out the production), but he's smart enough to recognize it's the cash cow and opens up the option to do other stuff he cares about more. If you do the math on it he's probably pulling high 6 to low 7 figures a year. Alot of my friends have moved away from his channel as they think the quality has dropped and some were turned off by everyone on the channel except James being gone. I like him for the most part but there's a section of his fans that are disgruntled from what I've seen.
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Dec 19, 2020 14:56:50 GMT -5
Mike has always annoyed the shit out of me. He may be a totally nice guy etc, but onscreen he's just abrasive. I watched a now-deleted livestream of him playing Mario Maker several years ago now, and he was drunk/pilled-up/sleep-deprived or something, an he was just a gigantic asshole. He couldn't stop ripping on the game, the chat, everything in sight. I don't know what his deal was, but he lost me after that. I do appreciate his help with James over the years though, since he did contribute to the growth of it all.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Dec 19, 2020 16:43:46 GMT -5
Taito Legends episodes, etc.? My problem with that one is the games themselves actually looked OK, just difficult as you'd expect from arcade conversions and a lot of the criticism was really, really reaching. The last one, I forget the game even, had about a minute total if that of James in a non voiceover way. The past few, maybe post Polybius, they've just been a little whatever. Then again this video explains it, guys older, has a family, been covering this shit for so long, cant blame him for wanting time off if that's what he wants. Wont miss Mike but James and Mike Mondays were always great because neither of them seemed to try and push characters or jokes or whatever too hard and it ended up just two friends being really good at awful games.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 19, 2020 16:53:22 GMT -5
Mike has always annoyed the shit out of me. He may be a totally nice guy etc, but onscreen he's just abrasive. I watched a now-deleted livestream of him playing Mario Maker several years ago now, and he was drunk/pilled-up/sleep-deprived or something, an he was just a gigantic asshole. He couldn't stop ripping on the game, the chat, everything in sight. I don't know what his deal was, but he lost me after that. I do appreciate his help with James over the years though, since he did contribute to the growth of it all. Along with his weird ass Elmo review, and his Frito Bandito comics, I think we can all conclude the guy is not funny no matter what he thinks, and he should really just kind of shut up for his own good.
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Post by The Ichi on Dec 19, 2020 16:59:13 GMT -5
Wait, did they actually fall out?
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Dec 19, 2020 17:02:16 GMT -5
Wait, did they actually fall out? Nothing about what James posted suggests any animosity, and he plugged his Twitch and said he'd share the link. Think it's more just that Mike is much more into video games than James, and they both saw an opportunity to strike out in separate interests.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 19, 2020 17:16:41 GMT -5
I hope this means longer lengths of time between AVGN episodes. Around 2014 or so, I remember there would be these really long stretches of time between episodes. But the quality didn't really drop. But around two years ago, he started doing them more frequently, and the quality really suffered. I don't think James no longer cares about doing AVGN. I think it's a matter of him feeling less passionate when he has to grind them out like crazy.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 19, 2020 17:46:11 GMT -5
I hope this means longer lengths of time between AVGN episodes. Around 2014 or so, I remember there would be these really long stretches of time between episodes. But the quality didn't really drop. But around two years ago, he started doing them more frequently, and the quality really suffered. I don't think James no longer cares about doing AVGN. I think it's a matter of him feeling less passionate when he has to grind them out like crazy. They're more frequent now because the screenwave guys are doing a huge part of them, James comes in and does the character. It's also far and away the biggest channel screenwave works with so they want frequent episodes. I think everyone should appreciate Mike, without him there's no AVGN. He encouraged James from the start to do the character. Let James use his game library, did artwork, appeared in a ton of iconic episodes. I think where the disconnect happens is James isn't the AVGN in real life...Mike is..that character is very much a lot of who Mike actually is when you look at his streams, social media etc. I'll always miss the old crew...James Mike Bootsy and Kyle.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Dec 19, 2020 18:04:16 GMT -5
Mike was never funny. James is funnier than Mike is, and James isn't very funny; he just really embodies a character and has creativity in spades.
Mike's the one that seemed to have passion about video games and actual strong opinions about them. That actually makes me have a little more optimism about the AVGN character. There's a kabillion people with strong opinions about video games making videos. It's kinda cool to hear the opinions of someone who really digs games, but just as a way to reconnect to his 12 year-old self, and so he'll get bored if the game doesn't give him a gun and someone to shoot in the first thirty seconds.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2020 19:48:32 GMT -5
Eh, if Mike helped behind the scenes good for him and the help. Still awful&annoying in front of the camera.
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Post by Mecca on Dec 19, 2020 21:53:24 GMT -5
Eh, if Mike helped behind the scenes good for him and the help. Still awful&annoying in front of the camera. The channel would have never happened without him, he did all the things James didn't want to. For a long time he owned it, he may still.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 19, 2020 22:24:12 GMT -5
Fair enough, still is annoying as hell as an on air personality.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 19, 2020 22:55:15 GMT -5
No more James & Mike Mondays? That completely and utterly sucks. There's no more Mike in general, I thought it was a bit shitty that Mike's been with him since day 1, they're supposed to be friends and he got 15 seconds. No montage hell not even a plug for his twitch channel, that's just kinda shitty. Um he plugged Mike’s twitch and said that Mike was going to move onto focusing on his own channel and stuff.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 19, 2020 23:36:23 GMT -5
This is like two lovers breaking up except the girl likes to draw gross racist cartoons and flash her giant penis online. Um, that last part, Not sure why I'm giggling about.
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Post by DerktheDerk on Dec 20, 2020 11:01:18 GMT -5
I kind of wish James would bring back his Playlist Junkie videos. It's neat to hear him talk about music. I agree. I guess it's because I share a lot of the same tastes as James, but I enjoy his music stuff more than his other content. His (very) short-lived podcast with his wife was awesome.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 20, 2020 12:08:35 GMT -5
I could definitely see James moving to things the way that Pat the NES Punk has. Doing a few things like podcasts and the occasional video while mostly focusing on other projects in more of a producer-type role.
I have been a big fan of a lot of Cinemassacre stuff, but if the main force behind it wants to move on to different projects, I wish him the best going forward.
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