Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 21, 2020 13:07:43 GMT -5
Did Charlotte get facework done? Ever since my wife said "Did Charlotte get a new nose and shave her cheeks down?" I keep thinking that Charlotte looks different. But I can't tell if it's just my wife's comment influencing what I see, or that Charlotte actually got work done.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 21, 2020 13:30:18 GMT -5
Judging by how some people talk about her, it feels like it might do Charlotte well to do what Okada's doing in NJPW right now: since dropping the title last January he's started trying to branch out into other angles and feuds to keep him occupied away from the top belt. He's only missed being in the main event of Wrestle Kingdom twice since 2013 (and one of those years he was still in the world title match as champion), but this year he's got a non-title match/feud with backstabbing Will Ospreay scheduled for Tokyo Dome on 1/4 and isn't scheduled to compete for the top belt or be in the main event either night of Wrestle Kingdom.
Charlotte is talented and clearly has star power, so being high on the card is absolutely warranted for her, but until there's some breathing room between her and the top belts it'll be tough for her to shake the whole "she gets 'WWE chosen one' booking" stigma many feel towards her, at least in the eyes of a vocal contingent of the fans. Yet another argument for WWE doing something to improve the booking of their main roster women's divisions outside of the Horsewomen, it'd give the bigger stars more options for non-title/non-main event feuds and make it feel a bit fresher whenever they do return to the main event.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 21, 2020 13:35:05 GMT -5
Lana's out for six weeks isn't she? Isn't the conclusion (or next stage) Lana eliminating Nia Jax from the Rumble? Is she actually hurt? I missed that and assumed it was just a storyline. I haven't seen that reporter anywhere. So far, it looks to just be a storyline injury.
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Post by eJm on Dec 21, 2020 13:37:49 GMT -5
Is she actually hurt? I missed that and assumed it was just a storyline. I haven't seen that reporter anywhere. So far, it looks to just be a storyline injury. Hell, I don’t think there’s been a kayfabe report of what the injury to her that was. If I’m wrong, that’s fine, I just never got the impression there was that.
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Post by polarbearpete on Dec 21, 2020 13:44:50 GMT -5
I haven't seen that reporter anywhere. So far, it looks to just be a storyline injury. Hell, I don’t think there’s been a kayfabe report of what the injury to her that was. If I’m wrong, that’s fine, I just never got the impression there was that. Kayfabe they reported her injuries as a non-displaced radial head fracture of her left elbow and a MCL injury to her left knee.
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Post by eJm on Dec 21, 2020 13:47:11 GMT -5
Hell, I don’t think there’s been a kayfabe report of what the injury to her that was. If I’m wrong, that’s fine, I just never got the impression there was that. Kayfabe they reported her injuries as a non-displaced radial head fracture of her left elbow and a MCL injury to her left knee. I’ll admit when I’m wrong so hey, I’m wrong. Still really goddamn stupid overall, though.
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Post by SparkyPlugg on Dec 21, 2020 13:48:42 GMT -5
Did she? I couldn’t stop looking at her teeth.
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Post by BatPunk on Dec 21, 2020 14:50:30 GMT -5
Her face looked muscular.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 21, 2020 15:00:23 GMT -5
Hell, I don’t think there’s been a kayfabe report of what the injury to her that was. If I’m wrong, that’s fine, I just never got the impression there was that. Kayfabe they reported her injuries as a non-displaced radial head fracture of her left elbow and a MCL injury to her left knee. That seems really specific for kayfabe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 15:06:33 GMT -5
Sounds to me that they'll do a Lana/Nia feud away from the tag scene now. Lana will return, eliminate Nia and then we'll see if Lana can do it on her own without Asuka or if she is crafty enough to evade the monster. Hell, these 2 in that women's Elimination Chamber match is gonna be wild. Lana running away from Nia as they fight around the other women.
It definitely isn't the end but its clear they didn't want them near a title.
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Post by avenger on Dec 21, 2020 15:15:50 GMT -5
Lana's out for six weeks isn't she? Isn't the conclusion (or next stage) Lana eliminating Nia Jax from the Rumble? Is she actually hurt? I missed that and assumed it was just a storyline. As far as I'm aware it's a storyline, but the timeframe they've given is six weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 15:26:42 GMT -5
If she doesn't win the Royal Rumble then she'll definitely be the last eliminated because they know most people would hate the idea of her winning then pop big for the person eliminating her AKA the babyface Roman spot from recent Rumble years.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 15:28:10 GMT -5
If she doesn't win the Royal Rumble then she'll definitely be the last eliminated because they know most people would hate the idea of her winning then pop big for the person eliminating her AKA the babyface Roman spot from recent Rumble years. Yeah, I think they're going to have Bianca win it by eliminating her.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Dec 21, 2020 15:31:46 GMT -5
Judging by how some people talk about her, it feels like it might do Charlotte well to do what Okada's doing in NJPW right now: since dropping the title last January he's started trying to branch out into other angles and feuds to keep him occupied away from the top belt. He's only missed being in the main event of Wrestle Kingdom twice since 2013 (and one of those years he was still in the world title match as champion), but this year he's got a non-title match/feud with backstabbing Will Ospreay scheduled for Tokyo Dome on 1/4 and isn't scheduled to compete for the top belt or be in the main event either night of Wrestle Kingdom. Charlotte is talented and clearly has star power, so being high on the card is absolutely warranted for her, but until there's some breathing room between her and the top belts it'll be tough for her to shake the whole "she gets 'WWE chosen one' booking" stigma many feel towards her, at least in the eyes of a vocal contingent of the fans. Yet another argument for WWE doing something to improve the booking of their main roster women's divisions outside of the Horsewomen, it'd give the bigger stars more options for non-title/non-main event feuds and make it feel a bit fresher whenever they do return to the main event. These questions aren't limited to Charlotte per se, but this post got me thinking... Is the idea of a star in WWE an instance in which bookers are writing the product along the lines of sunk-cost fallacy? Given the money, i.e., contract payments per year, TV time, and kayfabe accolades and achievements that a wrestler like Charlotte receives, is she someone who continues to get pushed because there's a real audience desire and demand to see her and to see her perform? Or does Charlotte continue to be pushed because of all the investment of money, time, and kayfabe accolades and achievements she's received over the past few years, like a retroactive justification of all the above? Another person who is treated as "a star," but I don't know if he's done anything lately to warrant such treatment, is Randy Orton. I forget which Wrestlemania it was, but I remember reading some newz about the bookers struggling to come up with something to justify Orton being on the show "because he's such a big star." I immediately thought, hey, don't book him on the show just because, then, if there's no good reason for him to be on the card. He doesn't have to be at Wrestlemania just because "he's Randy Orton." WWE's insistence on stardom often feels like a retroactive justification for the money, time, and kayfabe accolades/achievements the company gives to a wrestler, but fan conversations about who is a star, or how is somebody a star, makes me think WWE's whole endeavour of continually pushing the Charlottes and Randy Ortons as the top stars of the wrestling world is kind of pointless. (nor is this idea of stardom limited to the top talent: a former booker in a shoot interview talked about the British Bulldog in 1999, complaining that there are only so many ways and so many times a talent can be repackaged. Implicit in his idea, I think, is that companies repackage wrestlers because, again, they've spent so much money, time, and effort in trying to get them over, that maybe this time the kick at the can will actually, finally have a pay-off.) This is not to say that Charlotte and Randy Orton aren't talented performers or good wrestlers, but realistically, how much more can you do with them when they've already done and been given so much?
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 21, 2020 15:36:45 GMT -5
Judging by how some people talk about her, it feels like it might do Charlotte well to do what Okada's doing in NJPW right now: since dropping the title last January he's started trying to branch out into other angles and feuds to keep him occupied away from the top belt. He's only missed being in the main event of Wrestle Kingdom twice since 2013 (and one of those years he was still in the world title match as champion), but this year he's got a non-title match/feud with backstabbing Will Ospreay scheduled for Tokyo Dome on 1/4 and isn't scheduled to compete for the top belt or be in the main event either night of Wrestle Kingdom. Charlotte is talented and clearly has star power, so being high on the card is absolutely warranted for her, but until there's some breathing room between her and the top belts it'll be tough for her to shake the whole "she gets 'WWE chosen one' booking" stigma many feel towards her, at least in the eyes of a vocal contingent of the fans. Yet another argument for WWE doing something to improve the booking of their main roster women's divisions outside of the Horsewomen, it'd give the bigger stars more options for non-title/non-main event feuds and make it feel a bit fresher whenever they do return to the main event. Yeah, Charlotte needs to spend a long ass time involved in other angles not involving the titles. I'm not saying she should be treated like a jobber... but she's basically always centered around the title and is one of the people they pad their resume with every accolade they can think of whether or not she needs it or if someone else could have made better use of it. Even now with the Tag Titles it is undoubtedly going to turn into a tag partners attack each other cause Charlotte wants Asuka's Title.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 15:46:31 GMT -5
If she doesn't win the Royal Rumble then she'll definitely be the last eliminated because they know most people would hate the idea of her winning then pop big for the person eliminating her AKA the babyface Roman spot from recent Rumble years. Yeah, I think they're going to have Bianca win it by eliminating her. Bianca v Sasha at Wrestlemania sounds great then on the Raw side I'd guess Asuka v Charlotte? It feels weird after the year she's had though that Bayley might end up not being around the title picture for Wrestlemania.
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Post by Terry McConkey on Dec 21, 2020 16:47:58 GMT -5
She looked amazing and I'm glad she's back. They look so happy. But why did they make her and Asuka a tag team? Nevermind. I'm not interested.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 22, 2020 21:09:10 GMT -5
Did Charlotte get facework done? Ever since my wife said "Did Charlotte get a new nose and shave her cheeks down?" I keep thinking that Charlotte looks different. But I can't tell if it's just my wife's comment influencing what I see, or that Charlotte actually got work done. Do you mean recently, or in general? Because take a look at her face in NXT.
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Push R Truth
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 22, 2020 21:16:02 GMT -5
Did Charlotte get facework done? Ever since my wife said "Did Charlotte get a new nose and shave her cheeks down?" I keep thinking that Charlotte looks different. But I can't tell if it's just my wife's comment influencing what I see, or that Charlotte actually got work done. Do you mean recently, or in general? Because take a look at her face in NXT. Like during Covid.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Dec 23, 2020 20:58:13 GMT -5
awesome to have her back pity about the weak finish to an excellent wild match ... natural selection is a set up move not a finisher silly ...
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