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Post by markymark on Dec 21, 2020 11:18:25 GMT -5
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 21, 2020 11:59:41 GMT -5
That's surprising when you consider he's not a Knockout.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 21, 2020 13:48:39 GMT -5
Well I'd he was on a pay per appearance deal that'd make sense since he has pretty much not been used in that time frame.
Bad look for sure for Impact if true
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 21, 2020 15:00:14 GMT -5
Bad look for sure for Impact if true How so? If they're not booking him to wrestle, why would he be paid? Wrestlers kind of need to be doing work in order to get paid for it. They pay the people who they book and who wrestle on the show, they don't pay the people who aren't booked and don't wrestle on the show. How is it a "bad look for Impact?" Bad look in the fact they didn't give him anything during this pandemic era they didn't give him anything at all. They already only pays guys like him $40,000-$50,000 so out of "curtesy" I don't think throwing guys like him $5,000 or something like that would killed their bottom line 6 months of nothing means half his salary for the year is gone and indies are thin
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Post by Pensacola Tableheads on Dec 21, 2020 15:12:45 GMT -5
The more things change....
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 21, 2020 17:12:19 GMT -5
How so? If they're not booking him to wrestle, why would he be paid? Wrestlers kind of need to be doing work in order to get paid for it. They pay the people who they book and who wrestle on the show, they don't pay the people who aren't booked and don't wrestle on the show. How is it a "bad look for Impact?" Bad look in the fact they didn't give him anything during this pandemic era they didn't give him anything at all. They already only pays guys like him $40,000-$50,000 so out of "curtesy" I don't think throwing guys like him $5,000 or something like that would killed their bottom line 6 months of nothing means half his salary for the year is gone and indies are thin The dude's had a terrible 6 months of having to cut his brother out of his life AND had to get his stink off his professional career. They couldn't have just given him a gimme role being a lackey for Sami or alongside Fulton with Ace Austin?
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Post by eJm on Dec 21, 2020 18:21:32 GMT -5
Bad look in the fact they didn't give him anything during this pandemic era they didn't give him anything at all. They already only pays guys like him $40,000-$50,000 so out of "curtesy" I don't think throwing guys like him $5,000 or something like that would killed their bottom line 6 months of nothing means half his salary for the year is gone and indies are thin The dude's had a terrible 6 months of having to cut his brother out of his life AND had to get his stink off his professional career. They couldn't have just given him a gimme role being a lackey for Sami or alongside Fulton with Ace Austin? Exactly. Like, Jake isn’t exactly your biggest star but he has been loyal even through all this when he could have really easily crapped on you and your product. The very least you could do is have him back in the X-Division picture for a bit or put him in a stable as someone whose lost their way. Like, Cancel Culture didn’t affect RVD’s career, the f*** should it have affected Jake’s?
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Post by badkarma on Dec 21, 2020 19:24:37 GMT -5
So Don Callis hasn’t been paying his wrestlers? He really is turning into Paul Heyman.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Dec 21, 2020 19:40:16 GMT -5
So Don Callis hasn’t been paying his wrestlers? He really is turning into Paul Heyman. Dollar-Store Paul Heyman, you mean.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2020 20:07:14 GMT -5
Ugh Impact sure knows how piss away any good will...
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Post by katieklaus on Dec 22, 2020 3:14:06 GMT -5
Bad look in the fact they didn't give him anything during this pandemic era they didn't give him anything at all. They already only pays guys like him $40,000-$50,000 so out of "curtesy" I don't think throwing guys like him $5,000 or something like that would killed their bottom line 6 months of nothing means half his salary for the year is gone and indies are thin You've obviously never run a business if you think just paying people who you don't currently have a job for is smart practice. Yeah I'm with you on this one as well. Not to mention it's a spot they don't have in the middle of a pandemic as well. IMPACT might be in better condition than they have been in a long time but Anthem aren't giving them a blank check and they clearly are having to be smart with who they're bringing in and the positions for them. This definitely isn't some "classic TNA" thing, he's on a PPA deal and hasn't been stopped taking what dates are available to him elsewhere, anyone framing it as such such are being very disingenuous.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 22, 2020 3:25:26 GMT -5
Bad look in the fact they didn't give him anything during this pandemic era they didn't give him anything at all. They already only pays guys like him $40,000-$50,000 so out of "curtesy" I don't think throwing guys like him $5,000 or something like that would killed their bottom line 6 months of nothing means half his salary for the year is gone and indies are thin You've obviously never run a business if you think just paying people who you don't currently have a job for is smart practice. Lol first off I have run a business, thanks Secondly, I said curtesy not it was something they had to do. Impact is backed by benefactors, they could have did it if they choose to but they did not. They didn’t give him a chance to earn his money so he didn’t get paid but Impact has done some shady shit when it comes to money (see Killer Kross) so people are going to raise their eyebrow with shit like this I swear it’s like some of y’all work for impact
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 22, 2020 3:40:53 GMT -5
I'm not impressed. Release him, then, if you have no use for him. Did they not learn their lesson with Kross?
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Post by eJm on Dec 22, 2020 5:27:07 GMT -5
I'm not impressed. Release him, then, if you have no use for him. Did they not learn their lesson with Kross? Pretty much this too. Just let the dude go since it seems like you think he’s not worth much right now. Would it be heartless? Yeah, but you’re not paying him anyway so it’d be not like the WWE releases at all. And to the people who say “Well, he can take a booking somewhere else”, you all remember we’re in a Global Pandemic, right? Just because there have been placed luckily unaffected by COVID, it wasn’t like there wasn’t shows that came with people having to test themselves afterwards. So yeah, it’s not exactly that simple. How is it one of the few smaller companies to look good from all this is Ring of Honor and they’re owned by freaking Sinclair Broadcasting?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 22, 2020 6:04:46 GMT -5
I'm not impressed. Release him, then, if you have no use for him. Did they not learn their lesson with Kross? Pretty much this too. Just let the dude go since it seems like you think he’s not worth much right now. Would it be heartless? Yeah, but you’re not paying him anyway so it’d be not like the WWE releases at all. And to the people who say “Well, he can take a booking somewhere else”, you all remember we’re in a Global Pandemic, right? Just because there have been placed luckily unaffected by COVID, it wasn’t like there wasn’t shows that came with people having to test themselves afterwards. So yeah, it’s not exactly that simple. How is it one of the few smaller companies to look good from all this is Ring of Honor and they’re owned by freaking Sinclair Broadcasting? Yeah, like, I get it if they were not able to run shows, so sure, they can't use him due to that, but when they COULD begin running again, and realized, "Gee, we don't have any use for this guy at the moment", then let him walk. He'd be in the same position financially, sure, but he'd at least know he can send feelers out elsewhere.
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Post by eJm on Dec 22, 2020 6:10:37 GMT -5
Pretty much this too. Just let the dude go since it seems like you think he’s not worth much right now. Would it be heartless? Yeah, but you’re not paying him anyway so it’d be not like the WWE releases at all. And to the people who say “Well, he can take a booking somewhere else”, you all remember we’re in a Global Pandemic, right? Just because there have been placed luckily unaffected by COVID, it wasn’t like there wasn’t shows that came with people having to test themselves afterwards. So yeah, it’s not exactly that simple. How is it one of the few smaller companies to look good from all this is Ring of Honor and they’re owned by freaking Sinclair Broadcasting? Yeah, like, I get it if they were not able to run shows, so sure, they can't use him due to that, but when they COULD begin running again, and realized, "Gee, we don't have any use for this guy at the moment", then let him walk. He'd be in the same position financially, sure, but he'd at least know he can send feelers out elsewhere. Like, they were running months of shows at a time at this point and you couldn’t at least have him come and job for a few of them? They even hired new talent around that time from the WWE releases so it’s like “You couldn’t just have him team with Eric Young and have the new guy he’s with beat him up when he fails him or something?” The fact he didn’t risk himself on the indies too should be praised considering the risks even their own roster took during the pandemic.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 22, 2020 9:13:54 GMT -5
Ugh Impact sure knows how piss away any good will... I think Nordholm's part of the problem (the Broken Matt Hardy trademark, causing NJPW to lose their AXS deal, etc.), but I am curious to see Callis' response about Jake Crist's pay issues if he gives one.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 22, 2020 9:37:24 GMT -5
ECDub! ECDub!
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Post by eJm on Dec 22, 2020 9:57:53 GMT -5
Ugh Impact sure knows how piss away any good will... I think Nordholm's part of the problem (the Broken Matt Hardy trademark, causing NJPW to lose their AXS deal, etc.), but I am curious to see Callis' response about Jake Crist's pay issues if he gives one. Like someone said, legally, they have an out because it’s pay by appearance which would be “fine” if there wasn’t the history with Killer Kross to look at and go “Well, why didn’t you just let him go if it was such a hassle?” because like that, it’s an easy solution, it makes you not look like you’re keeping people under contract for no reason and you can then fill that roster space with someone else. I mean, Jake was smart enough to not run his mouth but it’s also not the company’s duty to punish someone by keeping them for doing that. And hell, he might not have to announce free agency as publicly as he did.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 22, 2020 10:05:12 GMT -5
I think Nordholm's part of the problem (the Broken Matt Hardy trademark, causing NJPW to lose their AXS deal, etc.), but I am curious to see Callis' response about Jake Crist's pay issues if he gives one. Like someone said, legally, they have an out because it’s pay by appearance which would be “fine” if there wasn’t the history with Killer Kross to look at and go “Well, why didn’t you just let him go if it was such a hassle?” because like that, it’s an easy solution, it makes you not look like you’re keeping people under contract for no reason and you can then fill that roster space with someone else. I mean, Jake was smart enough to not run his mouth but it’s also not the company’s duty to punish someone by keeping them for doing that. And hell, he might not have to announce free agency as publicly as he did. Imagine watching new people come in the door like Deonna, EY, Slater etc and they are getting paid but because your deal is PPA, you are fully assed out. I'd be livid. You're obviously not broke and hiring new talent while neglecting in the old ones in this era is type f***ed up
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