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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 20:04:05 GMT -5
The United Kingdom title pretty much is the equivalent of the European title now, isn't it? not in a few days If there are spoilers I missed please pm me or something.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Dec 24, 2020 20:56:00 GMT -5
It should definitely come back so long as they axe the 24/7 title. Such a waste. It’s insulting and serves no purpose. There was prestige to the Euro belt. Bulldog. D-Lo. HBK. Angle. Guerrero. Rich history and it’s a no-brainer to plug the Network. 24/7 title? Shitty comedy with R-Truth being chased by jobbers. No. No thanks.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Dec 24, 2020 20:58:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind having a belt for the lower-tier guys to go for instead of being in the INFINITE PURSUIT OF A HIGHER R-TRUTH but that would require someone in charge who can, you know, give a flying ratf*** about the f***in' low-tier guys. And since Triple H isn't in charge....
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 25, 2020 3:26:19 GMT -5
The IC title already is completely worthless, and the US isn't much better. They STILL haven't done anything to undo all the "ONLY THE TOP TITLE MATTERS, AND IF YOU CAN'T GET IT, WHY ARE YOU HERE?" damage that HHH did during the Reign of Terror. Maybe your right, but it started well before the reign of terror. Yeah, it was passed around a lot in the AE... but so were all titles... The whole midcard titles being worthless are weird self-fulfilling prophecy thing... WWE has a ton of random midcard title changes... people call the titles worthless and call people that have it stuck in midcard hell... the WWE decide that ok people don't care about the title so they don't put any effort into... so people call them worthless... so the WWE continues to treat them as worthless... note I'm not trying to say the fans are at fault for the WWE's stupid treatment of it.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Dec 25, 2020 19:29:45 GMT -5
The ONLY way that should happen is they just change NXT UK to NXT Europe, which they should've done in the first place. Other than that no, even though I loved the belt. NXT Brexit
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 25, 2020 21:08:41 GMT -5
If there are spoilers I missed please pm me or something. I’m assuming he’s referencing the Brexit transition ending on 31st of December
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 25, 2020 21:25:27 GMT -5
Maybe your right, but it started well before the reign of terror. Hell, the very year the European title was established, there was a Fingerpoke of Doom with HHH and Shawn Michaels before the thought even crept into either Hogan or Nash’s head. Kayfabe-wise, that could be explained by Shawn Michaels already being WWF champion that he didn't need a secondary title, so he let Triple H have it, he also outsmarted Commissioner Slaughter in the process. If this was for the main championship, there's no way Michaels, both the character AND person would take a dive like that. As far as the bringing back the European Championship goes, that would be a resounding hell no. Despite it almost never having to do with the European continent, it was a good stepping stone for midcarders in the Attitude Era. It made sense to have it with a stacked roster at the time. Today, with a thin roster, splitting two or three brands, and during a pandemic? How in the hell would that even factor in?
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Post by eJm on Dec 25, 2020 21:31:47 GMT -5
Hell, the very year the European title was established, there was a Fingerpoke of Doom with HHH and Shawn Michaels before the thought even crept into either Hogan or Nash’s head. Kayfabe-wise, that could be explained by Shawn Michaels already being WWF champion that he didn't need a secondary title, so he let Triple H have it, he also outsmarted Commissioner Slaughter in the process. If this was for the main championship, there's no way Michaels, both the character AND person would take a dive like that. On the flip side of that, if the WWF Champion didn’t want it and his best friend didn’t want it, a belt that was only around for around a year...the f*** should I as a viewer care? Like, I’m not saying the story wasn’t a good one to do...it was just very much wrong time, wrong place with the item involved.
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 25, 2020 21:59:46 GMT -5
Kayfabe-wise, that could be explained by Shawn Michaels already being WWF champion that he didn't need a secondary title, so he let Triple H have it, he also outsmarted Commissioner Slaughter in the process. If this was for the main championship, there's no way Michaels, both the character AND person would take a dive like that. On the flip side of that, if the WWF Champion didn’t want it and his best friend didn’t want it, a belt that was only around for around a year...the f*** should I as a viewer care? Like, I’m not saying the story wasn’t a good one to do...it was just very much wrong time, wrong place with the item involved. Interestingly enough it did pick up steam early in 98 when Hunter and Owen were feuding over it, and then later D'lo Brown and X-pac. I find that belt fascinating(either bad or good) in terms of it's booking as at times it's been treated as a joke or consolation prize(see Mideon finding it in Shane McMahon's gym bag and annoyed him to have it, or Jeff Jarrett giving it to Mark Henry as an award for also helping him win the IC belt against D'lo Brown) or a stepping stone to the IC championship and beyond, such as when Kurt Angle and Eddie Guerrero held it. To me, it was WWF's equivalent to WCW's TV title in terms of card placement. Once the brand split got underway, it was deactivated at the right time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 23:09:50 GMT -5
I loved when D'Lo (or was it Al Snow?) had it and was billed from a different place in Europe every week. I've always wanted a foreign wrestler like Rusev or Nakamura to do that with the US Title.
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Post by Andee9001 on Dec 25, 2020 23:20:21 GMT -5
I loved when D'Lo (or was it Al Snow?) had it and was billed from a different place in Europe every week. I've always wanted a foreign wrestler like Rusev or Nakamura to do that with the US Title. They both did it. I liked how D Lo had gear with "European Champion" on it. Al Snow would come out every week dressed as someone from a different EU country pissing off William Regal in the process.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Dec 25, 2020 23:51:57 GMT -5
WWE needs to retire some belts, not add more.
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Post by ssdrivin on Dec 26, 2020 5:01:55 GMT -5
Hell, the very year the European title was established, there was a Fingerpoke of Doom with HHH and Shawn Michaels before the thought even crept into either Hogan or Nash’s head. Kayfabe-wise, that could be explained by Shawn Michaels already being WWF champion that he didn't need a secondary title, so he let Triple H have it, he also outsmarted Commissioner Slaughter in the process. If this was for the main championship, there's no way Michaels, both the character AND person would take a dive like that. As far as the bringing back the European Championship goes, that would be a resounding hell no. Despite it almost never having to do with the European continent, it was a good stepping stone for midcarders in the Attitude Era. It made sense to have it with a stacked roster at the time. Today, with a thin roster, splitting two or three brands, and during a pandemic? How in the hell would that even factor in?
I never did really understand that. I mean, what makes it a European Championship if it's won and lost in matches that have nothing to do with Europe? With a title called that, you'd think it would be traded between European wrestlers or on European soil (international tours or, perhaps these days with NXT's expansion, European territories like NXT UK and a hypothetical NXT Germany or something).
Same thing for the US championship (although somewhat less so as it's almost always on US soil that it's traded), why's it the US championship if it's open to everybody?
I'm not sure the Heavyweight Championship was always held by people who were especially heavyweight either, was it? Rey Mysterio for example, he's effectively a cruiserweight...
I realise WWE doesn't really have weight classes the same way a "real" sport does, but none of this belt segmentation (or lack of it, despite the titles suggesting there should be) makes any sense to me.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 26, 2020 8:03:29 GMT -5
If there are spoilers I missed please pm me or something. I’m assuming he’s referencing the Brexit transition ending on 31st of December Which is only leaving the EU, not Europe, anyway. Not every European country is in the EU
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Post by Ozman on Dec 26, 2020 10:18:59 GMT -5
No. The European Title is one championship that’s somehow less prestigious than the 24/7 championship.
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Post by thechase on Dec 26, 2020 10:25:11 GMT -5
I love how Davey Boy held it at times where it was most prestigious and at times where nobody cared about it.
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Post by sungod2020 on Dec 26, 2020 13:08:48 GMT -5
Kayfabe-wise, that could be explained by Shawn Michaels already being WWF champion that he didn't need a secondary title, so he let Triple H have it, he also outsmarted Commissioner Slaughter in the process. If this was for the main championship, there's no way Michaels, both the character AND person would take a dive like that. As far as the bringing back the European Championship goes, that would be a resounding hell no. Despite it almost never having to do with the European continent, it was a good stepping stone for midcarders in the Attitude Era. It made sense to have it with a stacked roster at the time. Today, with a thin roster, splitting two or three brands, and during a pandemic? How in the hell would that even factor in?
I never did really understand that. I mean, what makes it a European Championship if it's won and lost in matches that have nothing to do with Europe? With a title called that, you'd think it would be traded between European wrestlers or on European soil (international tours or, perhaps these days with NXT's expansion, European territories like NXT UK and a hypothetical NXT Germany or something).
Same thing for the US championship (although somewhat less so as it's almost always on US soil that it's traded), why's it the US championship if it's open to everybody?
I'm not sure the Heavyweight Championship was always held by people who were especially heavyweight either, was it? Rey Mysterio for example, he's effectively a cruiserweight...
I realise WWE doesn't really have weight classes the same way a "real" sport does, but none of this belt segmentation (or lack of it, despite the titles suggesting there should be) makes any sense to me.
I believe the initial premise was to help capitalize on The British Bulldog's popularity there and have him defend it on the European house show loop. It makes sense since he won the tournament in Germany and lost it to HBK in his home country. It's been said that he was going to win it back at the next UK PPV, but we all know how that went(or didn't went). The fact that he left the company before the year was over also didn't help it's European image. I like how D'lo Brown and Al Snow brought attention to the name of the championship, but overall, it was just a tertiary belt for guys not quite at IC level or a stepping stone to it and beyond.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Dec 28, 2020 16:57:48 GMT -5
As a European every time I do my own booking in a game the first thing I do is create the European title. If it was up to me I'd get rid of a few other titles and bring back the European title. One of my all time favourites.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Dec 29, 2020 20:38:41 GMT -5
Call up Marcel Barthel.
Give him the European title and have him tell everybody how it’s the most prestigious title in the company because it represents the place that takes wrestling most seriously.
Within weeks, he’ll be the most over heel in the company.
He’s absolutely perfect for that role.
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