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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 24, 2020 15:06:28 GMT -5
I've only started getting into AEW. I HATED Ambrose's moveset in WWE. Hated it.
You can say Brock only does suplexes but at least they look like they hurt.
I hated the whackyline. I hated that hop one foot on the turnbuckle and run. I hated his crappy dive through the ropes. And I thought his punches sucked.
However I liked the character, to a degree. And from what I've seen of him in AEW he looks pretty badass, rather than a skinny dweeb.
What is his moveset like now? I'm really new to the company. Is it better?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 24, 2020 15:10:41 GMT -5
He's a bit of a heavyweight brawler. He however, doesn't shy away from the technical game either, and has beaten a few that way with things like a Bulldog Choke or a full body wrap Sleeper Hold
He still does the double arm DDT, but he has two versions of it, the Regular Paradigm Shift, and the Elevated, which is basically his death move
He does a really awesome X-Plex as well to smaller wrestlers, Moxley really changes up his style depending on who he has to face, and I like that aspect about him
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Dec 24, 2020 15:13:22 GMT -5
It bears very little resemblance.
He still has that low-impact WWE execution - even Trent? still has that, and he's been an indy and NJPW guy longer than he's been a WWE guy - but the moveset is entirely different aside from the double-arm DDT as a finish. He does a lot more technical wrestling, he doesn't do the Ambrose goofy punches or the rebound clothesline at all, and he goes for a lot more power moves against the smaller guys.
If you want a good example, the video below has a match between Moxley and Darby Allin that is a very good index for his AEW style:
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Dec 24, 2020 15:14:49 GMT -5
He's a bit of a heavyweight brawler. He however, doesn't shy away from the technical game either, and has beaten a few that way with things like a Bulldog Choke or a full body wrap Sleeper Hold He still does the double arm DDT, but he has two versions of it, the Regular Paradigm Shift, and the Elevated, which is basically his death move He does a really awesome X-Plex as well to smaller wrestlers, Moxley really changes up his style depending on who he has to face, and I like that aspect about him He's also added back some of his older moves he lost in wwe like the Regal knee, armbar and stf. Plus he busts out the Gotch Piledriver every so often after the Suzuki feud. So yeah he's quite varied
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Post by Cyno on Dec 24, 2020 15:34:38 GMT -5
I liked Moxley's moveset in WWE when he was Dean Ambrose, but it's definitely more vicious looking in New Japan and AEW than there. He's also added submissions to his game, including a submission finisher he'll use if the Paradigm Shift (aka, Dirty Deeds) doesn't work. He has an elevated version of the Paradigm Shift that's brutal looking, too. He calls it the Death Rider in NJPW but I think they stick with calling it an "Elevated Paradigm Shift" in AEW.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 15:43:17 GMT -5
I liked Moxley's moveset in WWE when he was Dean Ambrose, but it's definitely more vicious looking in New Japan and AEW than there. He's also added submissions to his game, including a submission finisher he'll use if the Paradigm Shift (aka, Dirty Deeds) doesn't work. He has an elevated version of the Paradigm Shift that's brutal looking, too. He calls it the Death Rider in NJPW but I think they stick with calling it an "Elevated Paradigm Shift" in AEW. This. He started to slightly change his WWE moveset, just made it a little better when he mixed it up with guys like AJ, Cena, Rollins of course and other bigger stars. Against the regulars he didn't do much. I dug it a lot but it felt like he was holding back. As soon as he left the company he started to do more and then when he went to NJPW it felt like he had the perfect mix. Now in AEW it feels like he's sorta free from the chains of wrestling movewise. He doesn't have to change what he does or hold back anymore. I've never understood that about wrestling. 'Oh this guy has my move so I gotta change it.' No, don't change it. Keep doing it and hone it so yours is better in your eyes and then yall can get into a feud about it as you both differentiate how yall do said move compared to the other. Its easy.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 24, 2020 15:55:11 GMT -5
I liked Moxley's moveset in WWE when he was Dean Ambrose, but it's definitely more vicious looking in New Japan and AEW than there. He's also added submissions to his game, including a submission finisher he'll use if the Paradigm Shift (aka, Dirty Deeds) doesn't work. He has an elevated version of the Paradigm Shift that's brutal looking, too. He calls it the Death Rider in NJPW but I think they stick with calling it an "Elevated Paradigm Shift" in AEW. This. He started to slightly change his WWE moveset, just made it a little better when he mixed it up with guys like AJ, Cena, Rollins of course and other bigger stars. Against the regulars he didn't do much. I dug it a lot but it felt like he was holding back. As soon as he left the company he started to do more and then when he went to NJPW it felt like he had the perfect mix. Now in AEW it feels like he's sorta free from the chains of wrestling movewise. He doesn't have to change what he does or hold back anymore. I've never understood that about wrestling. 'Oh this guy has my move so I gotta change jt.' No, don't change it. Keep doing it and hone it so yours is better and then yall can get into a feud about it as you differentiate how yall do said move. Its easy. I've never seen Moxley in the indies, but from what I've heard from people who have, his current AEW style is basically a fusion of his WWE and his indies styles, with the mentality of someone older, wiser, and more experienced. It makes him overall a very balanced and versatile performer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 16:06:18 GMT -5
This. He started to slightly change his WWE moveset, just made it a little better when he mixed it up with guys like AJ, Cena, Rollins of course and other bigger stars. Against the regulars he didn't do much. I dug it a lot but it felt like he was holding back. As soon as he left the company he started to do more and then when he went to NJPW it felt like he had the perfect mix. Now in AEW it feels like he's sorta free from the chains of wrestling movewise. He doesn't have to change what he does or hold back anymore. I've never understood that about wrestling. 'Oh this guy has my move so I gotta change jt.' No, don't change it. Keep doing it and hone it so yours is better and then yall can get into a feud about it as you differentiate how yall do said move. Its easy. I've never seen Moxley in the indies, but from what I've heard from people who have, his current AEW style is basically a fusion of his WWE and his indies styles, with the mentality of someone older, wiser, and more experienced. It makes him overall a very balanced and versatile performer. Yeah I agree. I saw some of his indy stuff pre-WWE and I would always wonder when he'd break out that stuff and it always ended up being only against guys like Triple H or Rollins or whoever. Once he left the company though it just works well. Right now is his best character from an in-ring standpoint. He just understands it better than he has before. For as much as he didn't like that WWE run it's helped him in the ring. He understands more about psychological now.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 24, 2020 17:31:58 GMT -5
It bears very little resemblance. He still has that low-impact WWE execution - even Trent? still has that, and he's been an indy and NJPW guy longer than he's been a WWE guy - but the moveset is entirely different aside from the double-arm DDT as a finish. He does a lot more technical wrestling, he doesn't do the Ambrose goofy punches or the rebound clothesline at all, and he goes for a lot more power moves against the smaller guys. If you want a good example, the video below has a match between Moxley and Darby Allin that is a very good index for his AEW style: Awesome!
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