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Post by ChitownKnight on Dec 28, 2020 2:05:03 GMT -5
Cena had been in his main event form since 2005, and Taker had been his deadman character since 2004, they didn’t have a mania program till 2018, but that was just a squash match. How come they never had the program for real. I think they planned on Cena retiring him in 2016, but why didn’t they do it the following year?
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Post by Chiral on Dec 28, 2020 2:08:30 GMT -5
I believe for 33 there were pretty gung ho about Cena having his proposal happen in ring as a Wrestlemania Moment™ (not sure if this was ever something Cena really wanted to do onscreen...) and Undertaker seemed pretty deadset on trying to give a rub to Roman on his way out which ended up...yeah.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 28, 2020 3:02:36 GMT -5
Prior to WM30 they didn’t want Super Cena to lose and they didn’t want Taker’s streak to end.
After that, even if nobody would admit it, everyone knew Taker couldn’t handle a full-on WM-level match.
I thought it was really nice to give Taker that short, quick redemption match against Cena. It would have allowed him to leave with his head held high.
But...
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 28, 2020 5:34:50 GMT -5
Cena wasn't medically cleared for WM32, so we got Taker vs. Shane.
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Post by Bad Moon on Dec 28, 2020 5:53:19 GMT -5
2005-2011 SuperCena was above the streak. It's become this mythical prestigious thing in retrospect, but honestly the annual Undertaker mania feud was considered something for the B-listers and nostalgia acts to do, not the main event of the show.
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Dec 28, 2020 6:32:44 GMT -5
Maybe if The Rock didn't come back they could have done it at 28, it would have fitted in with the "Worst year of Cena's career" narrative they were trying to push at the time.
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Post by repomark on Dec 28, 2020 7:18:54 GMT -5
WM29 was the perfect time to do it. Cena needs redemption after losing to Rock - the only way he can see how is by ending the streak.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 7:56:03 GMT -5
2005-2011 SuperCena was above the streak. It's become this mythical prestigious thing in retrospect, but honestly the annual Undertaker mania feud was considered something for the B-listers and nostalgia acts to do, not the main event of the show. Besides... Cena and Taker separate is TWO marquee matches Put them in the one match and you're only building up one. It sucks we never got it but this probably the business answer.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 28, 2020 8:12:06 GMT -5
WM29 was the perfect time to do it. Cena needs redemption after losing to Rock - the only way he can see how is by ending the streak. Kinda sucks because the "rematches we didn't need" are on two different shows. Wrestlemania 28 had Taker/Trips III in the Cell, which ended up being a great match but I've always felt that Taker shouldn't have been doing rematches for the streak even if they ended up good. Wrestlemania 29 had Cena/Rock II which we definitely didn't need. My problem with doing Cena/Taker at 29 is I'm not sure I want to sacrifice Punk/Taker. What I guess they could have done, though is done Punk/Taker and Cena/Rock at 28, and then done Cena/Taker and Punk/Rock at 29?
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Post by grungesmurf on Dec 29, 2020 0:02:38 GMT -5
The Undertaker wasted too many Wrestlemania matches on members of dx.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 29, 2020 1:49:29 GMT -5
Prior to WM30 they didn’t want Super Cena to lose and they didn’t want Taker’s streak to end. Honestly though, that's exactly why it should've happened then. You wanna make people think The Streak is in jeopardy? Put him in an I Quit match against SuperCena at WrestleMania. That was my idea way back when and I'm kinda sad it didn't happen that way.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 1:57:51 GMT -5
WM29 was the perfect time to do it. Cena needs redemption after losing to Rock - the only way he can see how is by ending the streak. Kinda sucks because the "rematches we didn't need" are on two different shows. Wrestlemania 28 had Taker/Trips III in the Cell, which ended up being a great match but I've always felt that Taker shouldn't have been doing rematches for the streak even if they ended up good. Wrestlemania 29 had Cena/Rock II which we definitely didn't need. My problem with doing Cena/Taker at 29 is I'm not sure I want to sacrifice Punk/Taker. What I guess they could have done, though is done Punk/Taker and Cena/Rock at 28, and then done Cena/Taker and Punk/Rock at 29? Even though I loved End of a Era and HBK’s last match. A part of me feels like Kane should have been the only one to get more than one match with him. Then with the handy cap match at 19. It would have been 21 souls. Just has a different feeling to it.
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Post by thehottag on Dec 29, 2020 6:14:08 GMT -5
Because they didn't want to put Cena in a position where he'd be roundly booed or job?
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Dec 29, 2020 7:32:57 GMT -5
Because they didn't want to put Cena in a position where he'd be roundly booed or job? Lol, what? One night stand 2, Money in the bank 2011, Summerslam 2013, Wrestlemania 28? Cena in a position to be booed and lose was their bread and butter for awhile!
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Post by thehottag on Dec 29, 2020 7:50:09 GMT -5
Lol, what? One night stand 2, Money in the bank 2011, Summerslam 2013, Wrestlemania 28? Cena in a position to be booed and lose was their bread and butter for awhile! Actually, that's a very fair point. I was going to argue against it with One Night Stand being a one-off smark show, but Wrestlemania? Summerslam? Yeah, they absolutely should've done Streak vs Supercena, obviously with 'Taker winning.
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Post by clifford on Dec 29, 2020 8:50:01 GMT -5
Wrestlemania 27 was the year to do it. Taker had beaten HBK at Mania the previous 2 years and the streak was at its apex from a mythical point of view (Taker could also really still go in the ring at this point), and Cena was at the peak of his power and undefeated in one-on-one matches at Wrestlemania at that point- it would've been incredible.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 14:08:39 GMT -5
The Undertaker wasted too many Wrestlemania matches on members of dx. Wasted? But all this time WWE has been telling me that Triple H is the super duper best ever at everything and that his rivalry with Undertaker was the stuff of legends!
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Post by BatPunk on Dec 29, 2020 15:44:29 GMT -5
When you have two guys who would do anything if it was good for business, it would be incredibly hard to put a match together for them.
I doubt either guy would have an issue losing to the other if it made sense. But I can’t see a Cena making a case that him beating Taker is the right move and Taker would find no great win in beating Cena.
The WM match they had was dumb and should never had taken place. It was just a way to get them both on the card.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 16:11:38 GMT -5
The Undertaker wasted too many Wrestlemania matches on members of dx. I think it was worth it for the story they told. I've been watching for over 20 years and I've never watched a match with a group of people that got the kind of emotional reaction that end of an era match got live. People were jumping out their chairs after that SCM/Pedigree combo and almost in tears when they all walked off together at the end. I'd never trade that one. I would've done Taker/Cena at 29 or 30. 32 would have worked too if Cena was cleared.
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Post by grungesmurf on Dec 29, 2020 17:09:10 GMT -5
The Undertaker wasted too many Wrestlemania matches on members of dx. Wasted? But all this time WWE has been telling me that Triple H is the super duper best ever at everything and that his rivalry with Undertaker was the stuff of legends! Yup wasted. WWE tells us many things.🙃
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