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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 28, 2020 16:06:29 GMT -5
Because Mox, Roman and Seth fought for everything Going to Vince and telling them shit like they not losing to Cena is what saved them cause they could have went sideways and just been a collective of boys to get their ass whooped by Ryback It probably helped that Roman could have said, "Ok, I'm sure my cousin will be happy that you said no to me on this." Which, I'm 100% for and wished that more people had that sort of leverage. Except he has never threatened to ever use that as leverage Family connections got him the job but he has stood on his own merit. He didn't lean on his blood family, he leaned on his brothers in Mox and Rollins to make shit happen
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2020 16:13:25 GMT -5
It probably helped that Roman could have said, "Ok, I'm sure my cousin will be happy that you said no to me on this." Which, I'm 100% for and wished that more people had that sort of leverage. Except he has never threatened to ever use that as leverage Family connections got him the job but he has stood on his own merit. He didn't lean on his blood family, he leaned on his brothers in Mox and Rollins to make shit happen Didn't say that he did, just that he could. Which makes him a bigger man than most. I would have no problem if he did because of the way WWE flat out exploits people but he's above that.
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Post by Woo on Dec 28, 2020 17:08:53 GMT -5
My goodness this match was awesome. The Shield were booked perfectly and up until Wyatt lost to Cena the family were booked very well too.
This has to be one of the few times heel vs heel was worked right?
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 28, 2020 17:18:21 GMT -5
Did this match happen just twice? I thought there was a third but I’m drawing a blank
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Post by Bo Rida on Dec 28, 2020 17:20:07 GMT -5
I love it when a group of guys make each other stars, it felt like they'd be main eventing for years to come and sure enough they did. Four guys with multiple world titles, two were their companies top guy and there's still a feeling all could be more with better booking.
Brodie had a good chance of joining them one day but regards of the "what ifs" he had a great career regardless. Rowan despite clearly being below the others did way more than anyone would ever have expected (and maybe retired The Rock).
So they're ahead of the TLC guys and it's tough to compare with the Smackdown six.
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Post by Manute Bol on Dec 28, 2020 17:25:01 GMT -5
Did this match happen just twice? I thought there was a third but I’m drawing a blank It happened four times actually: 2/23/14 - Elimination Chamber (4.25 stars) 3/3/14 - RAW (4.5 stars) 4/8/14 - Main Event (4.25 stars) 5/5/14 - RAW (unrated) The first RAW match has the highest rating, but the EC match is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Also interesting to note that the Wyatts went 3-1 in the series.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 28, 2020 19:20:08 GMT -5
It probably helped that Roman could have said, "Ok, I'm sure my cousin will be happy that you said no to me on this." Which, I'm 100% for and wished that more people had that sort of leverage. Except he has never threatened to ever use that as leverage Family connections got him the job but he has stood on his own merit. He didn't lean on his blood family, he leaned on his brothers in Mox and Rollins to make shit happen I'm sure it helped that Roman was viewed as a huge main event prospect, much like Dwayne was 20 years prior. He didn't need need to name drop The Rock when everyone already knows he's going to be the guy in a few years, and the fact that he was with two other guys also veiwed as prospective main event talents gave them an edge politically that few others would have.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 28, 2020 19:27:08 GMT -5
Except he has never threatened to ever use that as leverage Family connections got him the job but he has stood on his own merit. He didn't lean on his blood family, he leaned on his brothers in Mox and Rollins to make shit happen I'm sure it helped that Roman was viewed as a huge main event prospect, much like Dwayne was 20 years prior. He didn't need need to name drop The Rock when everyone already knows he's going to be the guy in a few years, and the fact that he was with two other guys also veiwed as prospective main event talents gave them an edge politically that few others would have. the thing about nepotism like this (which I have experienced first hand,from both sides). Is that people dont actually say "i'm gonna call X person." ,and even if they DONT want to, people will act thinking as if you personally will affect that persons opinion and will value you more. It sucks but is reallity, Roman wont very likely ever say and probably never did "i'm gonna talk to the rock",it would ALWAYS be implied from one of the sides,it is more of a passive thing than something people just call out when they need.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Dec 30, 2020 2:14:07 GMT -5
Did this match happen just twice? I thought there was a third but I’m drawing a blank It happened four times actually: 2/23/14 - Elimination Chamber (4.25 stars) 3/3/14 - RAW (4.5 stars) 4/8/14 - Main Event (4.25 stars) 5/5/14 - RAW (unrated) The first RAW match has the highest rating, but the EC match is the best of the bunch in my opinion. Also interesting to note that the Wyatts went 3-1 in the series. I rewatched the first three and IMO the EC match is still the best of the bunch (granted the commercials annoyed me for 2/3). Though the second one is far more memorable for the ending.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2021 16:06:00 GMT -5
I know people soured on Seth after they made him a babyface, but I remember him showing some amazing babyface fire in this match.
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