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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 28, 2020 10:18:34 GMT -5
We talked a lot about Apter mags. One thing I remember from them were, they would be slow to accept wrestlers' new names and such, especially WWF gimmick changes.
For instance, Mr. Perfect was always Curt Hennig first and foremost. There were other examples...think Terry Taylor was another (and why would they WANT to acknowledge his gimmick name?) Also believe that they still used the Bushwhackers' full names as well.
They did this with WCW too...refusing to accept the cut of the "Big Van" part of Vader's name in 1993. And it took them till the summer of 1991 to stop calling them the NWA even!
They also did not change kayfabe hometowns and weights in their ratings even when someone changed gimmicks. Nailz, for instance, still used Kevin Kelly's hometown etc.
Censoring Balls Mahoney's name. And at one point I think they briefly called Raven "'Raven' Scotty Flamingo"?
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Post by SmashTV on Dec 28, 2020 11:06:22 GMT -5
With hindsight, they seemed to do everything to refuse them. They’d always take the WWF to task for their gimmicks and would refer to the wrestler’s previous stints in other organisations even if it wasn’t relevant to the article.
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Post by jason1980s on Dec 28, 2020 11:10:00 GMT -5
With so much being kayfabe it was kind of cool the few things that weren't kayfabe, like the real names. As a kid I liked seeing the real names as it made me feel like I was "in the know." I seem to recall the Observer also calling the Bushwhackers their real names.
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Post by Aceorton on Dec 28, 2020 12:12:37 GMT -5
It always felt to me that the magazines saw their audience as being a bit more educated (they were bothering to read, after all), and thus they tried to maintain some continuity/realism that the WWF and WCW (but mostly WWF) didn't bother with. Curt Hennig was still Curt Hennig, even if the WWF acted like he didn't have a human name anymore. The Ultimate Warrior wasn't suddenly from "Parts Unknown" when it had been established previously that he was from Queens, N.Y.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 28, 2020 18:53:01 GMT -5
It always felt to me that the magazines saw their audience as being a bit more educated (they were bothering to read, after all), and thus they tried to maintain some continuity/realism that the WWF and WCW (but mostly WWF) didn't bother with. Curt Hennig was still Curt Hennig, even if the WWF acted like he didn't have a human name anymore. The Ultimate Warrior wasn't suddenly from "Parts Unknown" when it had been established previously that he was from Queens, N.Y. They didn’t though. They acknowledged Perfect’s name and his father all the time. It’s not like they acted like it was his actual name. |
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Post by Aceorton on Dec 29, 2020 2:19:13 GMT -5
It always felt to me that the magazines saw their audience as being a bit more educated (they were bothering to read, after all), and thus they tried to maintain some continuity/realism that the WWF and WCW (but mostly WWF) didn't bother with. Curt Hennig was still Curt Hennig, even if the WWF acted like he didn't have a human name anymore. The Ultimate Warrior wasn't suddenly from "Parts Unknown" when it had been established previously that he was from Queens, N.Y. They didn’t though. They acknowledged Perfect’s name and his father all the time. It’s not like they acted like it was his actual name. Occasional references to Larry the Ax, sure. But aside from that, if the name "Hennig" was spoken on WWF TV between mid/late '89 and when Curt went to WCW in '96, it was almost always a slip, with an occasional deliberate use by Jim Ross. They were clearly going out of their way not to use it. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 29, 2020 2:23:18 GMT -5
They didn’t though. They acknowledged Perfect’s name and his father all the time. It’s not like they acted like it was his actual name. Occasional references to Larry the Ax, sure. But aside from that, if the name "Hennig" was spoken on WWF TV between mid/late '89 and when Curt went to WCW in '96, it was almost always a slip, with an occasional deliberate use by Jim Ross. They were clearly going out of their way not to use it. He debuted as Curt Hennig, then adopted Mr. Perfect as his nickname and it just took over as time wore on. |
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Post by Aceorton on Dec 29, 2020 2:42:30 GMT -5
Occasional references to Larry the Ax, sure. But aside from that, if the name "Hennig" was spoken on WWF TV between mid/late '89 and when Curt went to WCW in '96, it was almost always a slip, with an occasional deliberate use by Jim Ross. They were clearly going out of their way not to use it. He debuted as Curt Hennig, then adopted Mr. Perfect as his nickname and it just took over as time wore on. Yes, for the first 6-9 months, they definitely used it. By WM5, they had mostly dropped it. |
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Post by ianriccaboni on Dec 29, 2020 18:50:15 GMT -5
Shortly after Hogan wins the WWF Title: "The WWF Championship is not a World title."
Hogan already had taken it with him to Japan as early as February and was recognized as Champion there when he wrestled Rusher Kimura 🤷♂️
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Post by mrpeacock on Dec 29, 2020 20:17:42 GMT -5
Shortly after Hogan wins the WWF Title: "The WWF Championship is not a World title." Hogan already had taken it with him to Japan as early as February and was recognized as Champion there when he wrestled Rusher Kimura 🤷♂️ Bob Backlund defended it a bunch in Japan too! |
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Post by timelimitdraw on Dec 29, 2020 21:00:35 GMT -5
Shortly after Hogan wins the WWF Title: "The WWF Championship is not a World title." Hogan already had taken it with him to Japan as early as February and was recognized as Champion there when he wrestled Rusher Kimura 🤷♂️ Bob Backlund defended it a bunch in Japan too! To be fair, that was during a period when the WWF started banning photographers from outside wrestling publications at ringside because Vince McMahon wanted to start his own magazine. PWI briefly removing World title recognition from the WWF only happened because of that and restored it sometime around WrestleMania. The ironic part is that the WWF didn't call their titles World titles from the time Vince Sr. rejoined the NWA in 1971 until the WWF withdrew in 1983, but PWI recognized them as World titles during most of that time period. Edit: PWI as well as its predecessors since PWI didn't start until 1979. |
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