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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2020 0:23:31 GMT -5
I'm still confused by the Brogue Kick being banned, leading to Sheamus taking up the Texas Cloverleaf, only for the Brogue Kick to be unbanned and the Cloverleaf promptly forgotten about. He did bring it back now and again, since I remember him beating Ryback and Curtis Axel in a row, and one, he tapped out with the Cloverleaf. Still, yeah, it wasn't very often at all.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Dec 29, 2020 3:10:45 GMT -5
Remember when Jericho was winning matches with an enziguri? Or the Break down (Pretty much the skull crushing finally) There was also the Flashback, which was a Sleeperhold into a sheer drop which won him a match or two in 2004. Amazing that it took him 30 years to finally establish a real finishing move that isn't the Lion Tamer/Walls of Jericho.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2020 3:19:11 GMT -5
Or the Break down (Pretty much the skull crushing finally) There was also the Flashback, which was a Sleeperhold into a sheer drop which won him a match or two in 2004. Amazing that it took him 30 years to finally establish a real finishing move that isn't the Lion Tamer/Walls of Jericho. The Codebreaker was pretty successful, but it was good of him to switch to the Judas Effect just due to how codebreakers had become very, very common on the indies, plus I imagine he wanted a move he didn't have to bump doing every night.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 3:44:08 GMT -5
There was also the Flashback, which was a Sleeperhold into a sheer drop which won him a match or two in 2004. Amazing that it took him 30 years to finally establish a real finishing move that isn't the Lion Tamer/Walls of Jericho. The Codebreaker was pretty successful, but it was good of him to switch to the Judas Effect just due to how codebreakers had become very, very common on the indies, plus I imagine he wanted a move he didn't have to bump doing every night. Also up until the Judas Effect Jericho's always badly struggled with his finishers quickly being greatly diminished in power. It eventually got a point where he'd need to hit the Codebreaker multiple times and still throw in a belt shot or something to actually win against a main eventer; really it's a big part of why I've never liked the Mania 19 match, the Walls are basically completely useless in that match to where he starts having to use Sweet Chin Music instead for the match to have any drama and even then it's seemingly not actually doing any damage.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 29, 2020 4:10:28 GMT -5
Bob Holly had the falcon arrow tastelessly dubbed by Russo as "The Holly-caust" briefly in May '99.
Trish Stratus, in 2002, had perhaps the highest-brow reference for the name of a finisher with the "Stratavarious" (a play on Stradivarius.) Reading this thread, it seems a fair amount of these examples are from 2002, so I wonder if that's coincidence or a conscious effort to freshen up their moves and matches.
Dean Ambrose's original "Dirty Deeds" was a headlock driver, but it was changed due to looking so similar to Adam Rose's "Party Foul" which he was trying to get over. Side note, Ambrose's first few months on the main roster saw him using the cannonball in the corner, but WWE asked him to stop when they began courting Kevin Owens so it could be saved for him.
Erick Rowan had the best torture rack since Lex Luger during his late-2014 run where he was ridiculously over.
Sheamus' first finisher during his ECW days was a wicked looking backbreaker. Revisit his ECW debut and hear the crowd just recoil in horror at the sight of it. Understandable why he changed it when moving to Raw where the guys were much bigger, but it made a huge impression in the land of extreme.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2020 5:17:17 GMT -5
Here's one not from WWE: Bryan Danielson using the Small Package as a finisher because he was that much of an arrogant dick as ROH champ was awesome In fairness it was a "picture perfect small package"
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Dec 29, 2020 5:21:13 GMT -5
That lame ass Ripcord Knee that Seth tried to get over after WWE banned the Curb Stop.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Dec 29, 2020 8:38:53 GMT -5
Didn't Billy Gunn try to use a Sleeper Drop as a finisher for a short while when he first started doing his "The One Billy Gunn" run, only to go back to the Fame-Asser?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2020 8:48:11 GMT -5
Didn't Billy Gunn try to use a Sleeper Drop as a finisher for a short while when he first started doing his "The One Billy Gunn" run, only to go back to the Fame-Asser? Sorta, it was a cobra clutch where he'd lift them up and slam them from it. It was a cool enough move, but yeah, he didn't really need a new finisher, exactly, especially once they kind of drifted him back towards the Mr. Ass-isms.
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 29, 2020 8:50:46 GMT -5
Bob Holly had the falcon arrow tastelessly dubbed by Russo as "The Holly-caust" briefly in May '99. Trish Stratus, in 2002, had perhaps the highest-brow reference for the name of a finisher with the "Stratavarious" (a play on Stradivarius.) Reading this thread, it seems a fair amount of these examples are from 2002, so I wonder if that's coincidence or a conscious effort to freshen up their moves and matches. Dean Ambrose's original "Dirty Deeds" was a headlock driver, but it was changed due to looking so similar to Adam Rose's "Party Foul" which he was trying to get over. Side note, Ambrose's first few months on the main roster saw him using the cannonball in the corner, but WWE asked him to stop when they began courting Kevin Owens so it could be saved for him. Erick Rowan had the best torture rack since Lex Luger during his late-2014 run where he was ridiculously over. Sheamus' first finisher during his ECW days was a wicked looking backbreaker. Revisit his ECW debut and hear the crowd just recoil in horror at the sight of it. Understandable why he changed it when moving to Raw where the guys were much bigger, but it made a huge impression in the land of extreme. I am glad he changed the headlock driver. It looked good sometimes, but was really dependent on the guy taking it. It also was hard to tease for reversals to pop the crowd, since it just looks like he's doing a headlock, whereas the double underhook sells to the audience exactly what he's going for. As for Sheamus, that would be the Irish Curse. He would bust it out sometimes after, but yeah, the High Cross and the Brogue Kick became his main finishers for a while after call up, with the Cloverleaf and White Noise (Air Raid Crash) added to the mix.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 29, 2020 9:48:07 GMT -5
Brock Lesnar used the Brock Lock late into his first run with WWE.
Fandango used a swinging reverse STO early in his WWE run, probably because the set-up of the move looks like he's doing a dancing dip with his opponent. I assume he was told he couldn't do it any more because Bray Wyatt was about the debut and would be doing the move as his finisher.
Kane started using a powerbomb in 2001, but he phased it out and went back to chokeslam and (occasionally) a Tombstone.
Braun was experimenting with different finishers before settling in on the running powerslam. There was a weird reverse chokeslam and a Yokosuka Cutter.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 29, 2020 9:57:51 GMT -5
Was that when he was doing a Rings of Saturn? Yep! I feel like a lot of heels over the years adopted weird submission finishers. Like Triple H trying to get the sleeper over. That's the MAIN EVENT SLEEPER to you. Pedigree Pandemonium? Was this when he used the Ace Crusher?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 29, 2020 10:29:09 GMT -5
Cesaro was using the Ricola Bomb in FCW but never used it as a finisher on the main roster
Kane with the (Magna) Claw
Big Show had a few as mentioned, the final cut, alley oop, camel clutch
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Post by CMWaters on Dec 29, 2020 10:53:19 GMT -5
Kane with the (Magna) Claw In his case, shouldn't that be the MAGMA Claw? Eddie with the Lasso from El Paso. Which I only remember because I remember a match where Kurt used it and said "This move sucks!" while Eddie was ringside.
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 29, 2020 11:31:05 GMT -5
Didn't Billy Gunn try to use a Sleeper Drop as a finisher for a short while when he first started doing his "The One Billy Gunn" run, only to go back to the Fame-Asser? The One and Only Yep! I feel like a lot of heels over the years adopted weird submission finishers. Like Triple H trying to get the sleeper over. That's the MAIN EVENT SLEEPER to you. Pedigree Pandemonium? Was this when he used the Ace Crusher? It was more of a Cutter then an Ace Crusher. Story is DDP phoned him up after he saw it and said something along the lines of "Bro, that move is like the only thing I got right now. You gotta do something else!" Eddie with the Lasso from El Paso. Which I only remember because I remember a match where Kurt used it and said "This move sucks!" while Eddie was ringside. He actually used 2 different versions of the Lasso from El Paso in a few of the games back then, but damned if I can remember if he used the both of them on TV
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Post by Cvslfc123 on Dec 29, 2020 14:06:16 GMT -5
Big Show used the F5 for a while in 2005 which I'm guessing was a dig at Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 14:11:15 GMT -5
So it's a thread about finishers that got finished.
I like it.
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Post by 67 more on Dec 29, 2020 14:15:35 GMT -5
Didn't Billy Gunn try to use a Sleeper Drop as a finisher for a short while when he first started doing his "The One Billy Gunn" run, only to go back to the Fame-Asser? The One and Only That's the MAIN EVENT SLEEPER to you. Pedigree Pandemonium? Was this when he used the Ace Crusher? It was more of a Cutter then an Ace Crusher. Story is DDP phoned him up after he saw it and said something along the lines of "Bro, that move is like the only thing I got right now. You gotta do something else!" Eddie with the Lasso from El Paso. Which I only remember because I remember a match where Kurt used it and said "This move sucks!" while Eddie was ringside. He actually used 2 different versions of the Lasso from El Paso in a few of the games back then, but damned if I can remember if he used the both of them on TV I know he tapped out Malenko with the first version in 2001 in a tag match, and it sucked.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Dec 29, 2020 14:18:51 GMT -5
Lex luger's first wcw title run was around 7 months and it was the only time he used the piledriver as a finisher.
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Post by Muskrat on Dec 29, 2020 14:26:02 GMT -5
The One and Only It was more of a Cutter then an Ace Crusher. Story is DDP phoned him up after he saw it and said something along the lines of "Bro, that move is like the only thing I got right now. You gotta do something else!" He actually used 2 different versions of the Lasso from El Paso in a few of the games back then, but damned if I can remember if he used the both of them on TV I know he tapped out Malenko with the first version in 2001 in a tag match, and it sucked. Good to know. I was sure he used it once or twice, because I remember being shocked he had it as one of his finishers in WM XIX, but I wasn’t 100%.
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