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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 7, 2021 19:48:53 GMT -5
Gave that youngster Jay Leno a main event shot. I think WCW use of celebrities made much more sense than WWFs. The WCW celebrities brought publicity and it seemed like they were willing to help WCW and it also seemed like they may be actual fans. Ted Turner was in the entertainment business and he was a high roller and it made sense for a Turner owned business like WCW to be well known and celebrities would want to be involved. On the other hand, Vince McMahon's sole goal seemed to be wanting to be in the entertainment business but it rarely went well for him. I don't get it, the man probably is a genius and yet he couldn't get his PPV celebrities to do crossover appearances with WWF on their shows, or at least very rarely. It also seemed like most celebrities weren't fans and didn't want to be there, even for just a quick pay day. As time wore on after WCW died, sure but there’s little doubt the most high profile celebs used by WWE were much bigger deals than anyone WCW used.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2021 22:41:37 GMT -5
Dusty Rhodes on commentary. Part of the reason I love going back and watching old PPV’s is for the crazy stuff Dusty would say and the way he played off the other announcers Absolutely loved Tony,Bobby and Dusty as the ppv announce team.Dusty was crazy like him thinking a dragon screw leg whip was a sex act that he warns his wife he wants to try when he gets home.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 9, 2021 20:50:11 GMT -5
Today's Clash of the Champions thread made me remember the WCW All Nighter was amazing. I think there were two, one in 1994 and 1995 but I don't remember watching the 1995 version. I had my grandfather tape the 1994 version and watched it a lot. As I said in the Clash thread, these were PPV quality matches we were seeing on almost 6 hours of free TV. IIRC the original commentary was kept in rather than having whichever commentating team at the time was popular do the job. Plus the banter between all the 1994 commentators was pretty funny. This was just a few months pre-Hogan so I very much believe everyone liked each other at the time and was happy. Just a few years later Bobby Heenan would be miserable and he and Tony would dislike each other a lot.
Also, and I'm pretty surprised I never mentioned this-WCW did a lot of promotional signings in my area. That was good! I can't even remember where I read about these signings because I can't recall WCW advertising but they must have but WCW did a lot of arena ticket sales signings in my area around 1997 to the late 1990s. I know WWF did based on photos I saw but if it was in my area they didn't advertise it well.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 17, 2021 17:20:38 GMT -5
I am watching the main event entrance of Flair and Giant and Hulk and Macho at the January 1996 Clash and the roman columns entrance looks awesome, maybe even better than Wrestlemania IX because it's actual columns. WCW got that right but the entrance is ruined with Michael Buffer's announcing. Even early on announcing in his announcing the Giant and Flair he is just going through the motions. Despite probably being paid very well he's announcing them as if he's some random guy from the street who doesn't even like wrestling.
Then he feigns care of the product when Elizabeth comes out, I'm sure this is the first time he's ever heard of or seen Elizabeth. For all WCW got right, they their bringing in Buffer was wrong. They should have gotten a famous commentator who likes wrestling or stuck with their regular announcers at the time meaning either bring back Gary Cappetta or have Dave Penzer do the main event. Seeing all these sadly deceased legends like Elizabeth, Macho Man, Kevin Greene and Nancy Sullivan come out to this guys intros is pretty sad to me. Even Flair coming out to his intro makes me feel bad. Flair also deserved better. They all deserved someone who know who they were and cared about them who was the announcer.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jan 17, 2021 17:55:44 GMT -5
WCW Saturday Night was such a great show. It seems so quaint when there's 75 hours of wrestling on TV a week now that you'd get hyped about a 2 hour weekly show but it was the only one of its kind for years. A good mix of squashes and midcard bouts with a title change or hot angle every once in awhile and of course the home of some of Dusty's favorite phrases. "The Muthaship, 6:05 on the Supahstation!!"
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Post by eJm on Jan 17, 2021 18:20:30 GMT -5
I always liked how WCW shows looked for the most part. Like, their production always felt like it was a big event every week like the Super Bowl or something.
WWE’s production was always good but in comparison, it looked like you were watching something big time when watching a WCW show.
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Post by Barry Jobber 81 on Jan 17, 2021 18:22:26 GMT -5
WCW did a much better job in pushing Big Van Vader as a monster heel. He was feared, unstoppable, and beat up guys like Marcus Alexander Bagwell and El Gigante to make people believe he was a legitimate main eventer. I remember a match where Vader beat Big Bossman and Sting on the same night to become the number one contender for the title.
WCW was superior than the WWF in promoting Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair. When Hogan and Flair feuded in the WWF in 1991, it was in house shows which often times ended in a count-out finish.
WCW gave Randy Savage a fresh start in 1995. When The Macho Man was in WWF in 1993-94, he was on the commentary team with Vince and his career was going nowhere.
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Post by jason1980s on Jan 17, 2021 18:22:32 GMT -5
WCW Saturday Night was such a great show. It seems so quaint when there's 75 hours of wrestling on TV a week now that you'd get hyped about a 2 hour weekly show but it was the only one of its kind for years. A good mix of squashes and midcard bouts with a title change or hot angle every once in awhile and of course the home of some of Dusty's favorite phrases. "The Muthaship, 6:05 on the Supahstation!!" WCW was THE show for the company before Nitro. That Terminator futuristic intro was like something you really hadn't seen a lot at the time and I loved when they would show someone coming from backstage. I'm not sure how much they did that when they went to the Terminator entrance but they did it a lot during the 1992 era. They would put their promo photos on the walls on the backstage and actually I put wrestling photos on my walls going down the staircase at my old house when I was 7 or 8. My mom tells me she yelled at me for doing it because we were having people come to the house to look at it when we were selling it. I do remember having some sort of Abdullah the Butcher bloody photo on the wall at that time. Since Saturday Night was 2 hours it was much better to me than Superstars.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 17, 2021 19:08:42 GMT -5
Booking Lance Storm to win three titles and get over with his promos, including a catchphrase - things that WWE and ECW both couldn't do
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Post by koreycaskets on Jan 17, 2021 22:01:04 GMT -5
Miss Jones dancing
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 17, 2021 22:53:49 GMT -5
Booking Lance Storm to win three titles and get over with his promos, including a catchphrase - things that WWE and ECW both couldn't do I liked his WCW theme as well.
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Post by dynamitekidd on Jan 17, 2021 23:02:13 GMT -5
They were usually real good with the secondary titles. Always made them feel like a big deal. Luger, Rude, Windham, DDP, all great US title runs. Booker and Benoit going to war over the TV title. Jericho, Malenko, and the luchadores fighting over the cruiserweight title.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Jan 19, 2021 18:03:01 GMT -5
Honestly, I think one of the best things WCW ever did was successfully produce their shows to look and feel like big time sporting events. Camera angles, themes of the sets, Buffer being there every now and again. I always thought WCW had a big fight feel to it every night. WWF always seemed more like a TV show and not an event to me.
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Post by bogussting on Jan 20, 2021 6:07:50 GMT -5
More of a sports feel.
Best PPV names.
The greatest belt.
Cruiserweights.
The first year of the NWO is still the best thing ever.
Superior television sets in the mid/late 90s. Superior PPV sets in 1998/1999.
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Post by Barry Jobber 81 on Jan 22, 2021 12:47:58 GMT -5
Marc Mero was a bigger star in WCW as Johnny B. Badd. When he came to WWE as "The Wildman" his career fell flat and his wife Sable wound up becoming the star.
Lord Steven Regal was able to show-off his mat wrestling skills in WCW. He was "over" when he was the TV Champion with his manager Sir William. He had good matches with Ricky Steamboat, Larry Zbyszko, Brian Pillman, Sting, and Johnny B. Badd. When Regal came to the WWF during the Attitude Era, he stunk with the "Real Man's Man" gimmick. His only memorable moments in the WWF was his comedy duo with Tajiri and tapping out to Eugene in a mat wrestling session.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2021 14:33:57 GMT -5
International feel with varying styles. You had hosses, you had luchadores, you had technical wizards, Japanese puro, brawlers...
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Post by Sephiroth on Jan 23, 2021 21:20:41 GMT -5
The Nitro Girls were a great idea. Outside of sex sells, the crowd is part of the show and using a dance troupe to keep the crowd pumped throughout the show was a clever move.
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Post by fw91 on Jan 23, 2021 22:02:56 GMT -5
Introduced a much younger generation to the awesomeness of Martin Landaeu
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 9:18:26 GMT -5
Don't know if it's been said, but wcw often changing the set for their shows. wwe has had the same set and show for twenty years. And themed shows for which part of the year it was (halloween havoc, spring stampede, great american bash, etc).
Had matches with wrestling moves. Wcw was the counter to wwf's characters who get the story over with little wrestling vs lots of wrestling and some character work here and there, so both had their strengths depending on what you were in the mood for. The wcw announcers (tony) would actually call the moves, etc.
The wcw "random match generator" where you'd get the random matches with guys who were never against each other trying to figure out how to have a match with each other, made it more fun to watch instead of the same guys over and over like it is now.
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Post by grungesmurf on Jan 24, 2021 12:52:24 GMT -5
Most answers I’d came to post have already been mentioned.
So I will add: WCW up all night!
I can stay up all night and watch my favorite thing? Yes! Got my snacks and drink ready. Slept most of the day and was set.
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