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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 25, 2021 7:47:54 GMT -5
I'm not going through everyone's spoilers, but Emma Caulfield's character could possibly be... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Arcanna. It's the flower theory. Look at scenes in Wandavision of everybody's lawn: Agatha has purple flowers, Wanda has red flowers, and Dottie has yellow flowers. Agatha and Wanda's flowers colors are the same color as their magic. Who has yellow magic in the comics? Arcanna. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Yea, seems like she was more a deflection then anything since people were going to pick apart scenes with a fine tooth comb
Agatha calling her "the devil" had people thinking early but with us knowing who Agatha is, it was more likely a mindgame on Wanda
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Post by James Fabiano on Feb 25, 2021 8:24:15 GMT -5
Spotted my first instance of an international IWAAA....
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 25, 2021 8:31:06 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Yea, seems like she was more a deflection then anything since people were going to pick apart scenes with a fine tooth comb
Agatha calling her "the devil" had people thinking early but with us knowing who Agatha is, it was more likely a mindgame on Wanda {Spoiler}Deflection is definitely the name of the game when it comes to the MCU. They've always been good at sending out false flags to throw people off the scent, and if WandaVision is any indication they're ramping it up to an insane degree for the miniseries... I mean, just imagine what Loki will be like!
Bottom line: don't trust anything these shows present or what their actors say until the final episode is over.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 25, 2021 8:32:56 GMT -5
I'm not going through everyone's spoilers, but Emma Caulfield's character could possibly be... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Arcanna. It's the flower theory. Look at scenes in Wandavision of everybody's lawn: Agatha has purple flowers, Wanda has red flowers, and Dottie has yellow flowers. Agatha and Wanda's flowers colors are the same color as their magic. Who has yellow magic in the comics? Arcanna. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. That's true, but Marvel does have a habit of threading needles with some of these minor characters such as the office employee in Iron Man showing up in Spider-man: Far from home and the Hail Hydra guy. I could be reading too much into it like some were doing with the engineer. I mean some thinking Reed Richards showing up in a cameo when there's not even a F4 script yet? That was always unlikely.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 25, 2021 8:55:04 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. That's true, but Marvel does have a habit of threading needles with some of these minor characters such as the office employee in Iron Man showing up in Spider-man: Far from home and the Hail Hydra guy. Down the line, sure, I wouldn't rule it out. {Spoiler}But as far as the show goes I'd be surprised if Dottie plays any further role. They've pretty much set the board for the major players in the last two episodes - Wanda, Vision, Agatha, Monica, "Pietro", Darcy, Woo, and Hayward. Presumably Doctor Strange will appear at some point, with seemingly confirmed rumours of {Spoiler}Vision vs. White Vision , which is a lot of character threads to tie together in what amounts to about an hour of TV left.
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Post by Welfare Willis on Feb 25, 2021 9:08:04 GMT -5
That's true, but Marvel does have a habit of threading needles with some of these minor characters such as the office employee in Iron Man showing up in Spider-man: Far from home and the Hail Hydra guy. Down the line, sure, I wouldn't rule it out. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}But as far as the show goes I'd be surprised if Dottie plays any further role. They've pretty much set the board for the major players in the last two episodes - Wanda, Vision, Agatha, Monica, "Pietro", Darcy, Woo, and Hayward. Presumably Doctor Strange will appear at some point, with seemingly confirmed rumours of {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Vision vs. White Vision , which is a lot of character threads to tie together in what amounts to about an hour of TV left. Yup, like I said before, it's the toys that Kevin plays with. We are watching Kevin play with the toys, but some of us have grand plans with Kevin's toys.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 25, 2021 9:10:43 GMT -5
I'm not going through everyone's spoilers, but Emma Caulfield's character could possibly be... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Arcanna. It's the flower theory. Look at scenes in Wandavision of everybody's lawn: Agatha has purple flowers, Wanda has red flowers, and Dottie has yellow flowers. Agatha and Wanda's flowers colors are the same color as their magic. Who has yellow magic in the comics? Arcanna. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. {Spoiler}I think it could go either way at this point. We’ll know by next week. But here’s one more prediction that could support the Dottie/Arcanna theory...other than the fact that she’s basically been a sitcom side character which of course wouldn’t appear unless she was story involved at the time.
If my theory about real Agatha being the Nexus’ guardian is true...then Westview is basically the MCU’s New Salem? I have a feeling more of Westview’s citizens might be revealed to be magic users that were overwhelmed by Faux/Alternate Agatha than we know. They know magic just not on the level of Wanda and Agatha.
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Post by Legion on Feb 25, 2021 9:45:54 GMT -5
{Spoiler} I did think at one point the group of women from episode 2 would end up being a Coven, and each one would be a random mystical minor character like Arcanna or Jennifer Kale or Amanda Sefton - but now I just think it was Emma Caufield being a jobbing actress and taking a minor role.
The internet assumed it was more than it was because they recognised her.
Granted, we could still get that, as Agatha previously ruled over a secret town of witches, New Salem, so Westview could end up being a front for that.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 25, 2021 11:16:15 GMT -5
I've been playing it throughout the week. It's catch as hell! LOL
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Post by Savage Gambino on Feb 25, 2021 18:44:09 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I suspect Dottie isn't much more than a minor background character. We've got two episodes left and she's not had any kind of notable role to play since the second episode. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Yea, seems like she was more a deflection then anything since people were going to pick apart scenes with a fine tooth comb
Agatha calling her "the devil" had people thinking early but with us knowing who Agatha is, it was more likely a mindgame on Wanda {Spoiler}I'll say this much, if it is a misdirection, it's a damn good one. One of the first "hints" that Dottie could be Arcanna came when someone in this thread noticed both characters have a husband named Phil Jones, so it was already in the back of my mind when somebody else pointed out the color-coded powers and flowers theory.
Of course, if it's not a misdirection... HOO BOY. Marvel doing Squadron Supreme at a time when their Distinguished Competition has spent five years and $70 million dollars on a redo of their first "Avengers-style team-up" would be one hell of a power move.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 3:41:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Lot to unpack in this one. I've really grown to hate that Please Stand By screen over the last few weeks. Feel mixed feelings about this being the last time.
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Feb 26, 2021 3:45:25 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Lot to unpack in this one. I've really grown to hate that Please Stand By screen over the last few weeks. Feel mixed feelings about this being the last time. I agree. I will wait till further discussion but I stayed up till 3am my time to catch the new episode and now I wish I had just went to bed
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2021 4:01:55 GMT -5
Not a brilliant episode, if I'n honest. {Spoiler}Most of it was basically recapping events we already knew about, and the rest was mostly stuff we'd figured out (or at the very least suspected) already.
It was nice, though, getting confirmation that Wanda is capable of creating matter out of nothing, suggesting Vision and the twins are, in fact, real, as well as the Scarlet Witch name drop. Also another mid-credit sequence this week. {Spoiler}Goddamn, White Vision.
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Feb 26, 2021 4:05:34 GMT -5
Not a brilliant episode, if I'n honest. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Most of it was basically recapping events we already knew about, and the rest was mostly stuff we'd figured out (or at the very least suspected) already.
It was nice, though, getting confirmation that Wanda is capable of creating matter out of nothing, suggesting Vision and the twins are, in fact, real, as well as the Scarlet Witch name drop. Also another mid-credit sequence this week. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Goddamn, White Vision. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}White Vision turning out to be the return of Ultron would be a pretty hardcore flex.
Also, the Dick Van Dyke shout-out has me excited that maybe he might show up as Mephisto
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 26, 2021 4:12:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}I don't care what kind of retcons they have to do to make this happen, but I want it canon in the comics that at one point in his life Magneto sold DVD's of old sitcoms out of a suitcase!
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Post by Chiral on Feb 26, 2021 4:27:08 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I marked for the Dick Van Dyke Show bit, my parents have that DVD set (that...DVD DVD set)I think!
Wow I feel really stupid that I didn't catch that Westview has TV right in the middle until that logo of the shop as Wanda pulled in.
"Isn't grief just the perseverance of love?" ;___;
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2021 4:34:07 GMT -5
{Spoiler}Also, the Dick Van Dyke shout-out has me excited that maybe he might show up as Mephisto {Spoiler}I think Agatha is likely working for Mephisto, but I don't expect him to show up any time soon. Agatha, Hayward, and White Vision are villains enough for the final episode.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 5:01:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Also, the Dick Van Dyke shout-out has me excited that maybe he might show up as Mephisto {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think Agatha is likely working for Mephisto, but I don't expect him to show up any time soon. Agatha, Hayward, and White Vision are villains enough for the final episode. {Spoiler}I feel like we'll probably get a tease or a mention or something next week - we're going to need to explain what the Scarlet Witch is exactly and it feels like it'd relate to him - but yeah, I think at this point they're laying groundwork for later.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2021 5:32:24 GMT -5
{Spoiler} Yeah, that's pretty heartbreaking.
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Post by thechase on Feb 26, 2021 5:51:26 GMT -5
Today's episode was a solid A after a couple of unimpressive weeks {Spoiler}Agatha's name-drop at the end was so corny though...should have just said she was a mutant
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