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Post by BlackoutCreature on Feb 26, 2021 13:41:58 GMT -5
{Spoiler}The episode was excellent, but the one problem I do have with it is that it didn't really resolve anything, and it feels like the series has so much left to resolve with only one episode left. But Marvel has definitely earned the benefit of the doubt on that.
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Post by Stu on Feb 26, 2021 14:08:20 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 26, 2021 14:28:20 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}My theory on Hayward - he has no ulterior motive or secret agenda. He's simply an idiot who played his hand incredibly poorly. Long shot I know, but it's what I'm going with. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}Agreed. he's just another Ross, a dude who keeps f***ing up and then gets pissy when everything goes to shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 14:30:22 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
To anwser one of your questions {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I think white Vision is gonna be a complete evil blank slate because after this episode what to me they established is that Vision is gonna be brought back to life by way of melding his memory into his body....the Vision in the hex is a memory spawned partly from Wanda and partly from the mindstone hence the yellow light bursting out of Wanda.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 26, 2021 14:38:32 GMT -5
Really love this show. I've enjoyed every episode. And I still don't know where it's going to end up. Love it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2021 14:53:42 GMT -5
To anwser one of your questions {Spoiler}I think white Vision is gonna be a complete evil blank slate because after this episode what to me they established is that Vision is gonna be brought back to life by way of melding his memory into his body....the Vision in the hex is a memory spawned partly from Wanda and partly from the mindstone hence the yellow light bursting out of Wanda. {Spoiler}I think it's the opposite. Olsen has said that the finale is "epic and heartbreakingly sad."
We know her Vision cannot exist outside the Hex. Presumably that also means the twins cannot either (she warns them not to go to the street on the edge of town in the Halloween episode), but it seems likely that they are going to continue to play a role in the MCU.
My bet is Vision either sacrifices himself to stop White Vision, or Wanda has to make a choice as to who survives the end of the Hex.
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Post by ronin705 on Feb 26, 2021 15:33:15 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
{Spoiler}If you swap "SWORD" with "MLF" and "hero" with "mutant", irrational prejudice suddenly much more obvious. Great final episode set up. The fireworks are indeed coming.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 26, 2021 15:45:50 GMT -5
Somebody enhanced that scene to get a better look... {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Feb 26, 2021 16:19:07 GMT -5
To anwser one of your questions {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think white Vision is gonna be a complete evil blank slate because after this episode what to me they established is that Vision is gonna be brought back to life by way of melding his memory into his body....the Vision in the hex is a memory spawned partly from Wanda and partly from the mindstone hence the yellow light bursting out of Wanda. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}I think it's the opposite. Olsen has said that the finale is "epic and heartbreakingly sad."
We know her Vision cannot exist outside the Hex. Presumably that also means the twins cannot either (she warns them not to go to the street on the edge of town in the Halloween episode), but it seems likely that they are going to continue to play a role in the MCU.
My bet is Vision either sacrifices himself to stop White Vision, or Wanda has to make a choice as to who survives the end of the Hex. {Spoiler}My guess is that Good Vision does a sacrifice play to kill White Vision.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 26, 2021 16:37:13 GMT -5
I think everyone is wrong about one thing. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The heartbreaking part is going to be Hex Vision melding with White Vision and becoming one again...but he loses all his memories in the process and has no recollection of Wanda or their kids.[/spoiler{
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 26, 2021 16:38:10 GMT -5
It being a show about grief without some of the other villainous speculations is a pretty smart move honestly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 16:39:13 GMT -5
Somebody enhanced that scene to get a better look... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I really hope this is in the near future and not just a tease for something ways off....maybe in the finale it is the final shot and we wont get to truly see her wear this untill Multiverse of Madness.
I do wonder if the crown is gonna be a real one or similar to agathas mother who made an ethereal like one for herself.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 16:44:50 GMT -5
I think everyone is wrong about one thing. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}The heartbreaking part is going to be Hex Vision melding with White Vision and becoming one again...but he loses all his memories in the process and has no recognition of Wanda or their kids.[/spoiler{ {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I think you are partially right.
But the other part is I think she is gonna have no choice but come to the realization these kids are not real just like everything else manifested in the hex and break that to them but gets a variation of them back in Multiverse where they are young adults.
She gets Vision back but at the cost of her ever truly being happy.
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Post by Muskrat on Feb 26, 2021 16:51:20 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
{Spoiler} Re: The Stark Bomb, in Age of Ultron Wanda says when they were trapped when their parents were killed they were stuck staring at an unexploded bomb that was clearly labeled Stark so they kinda had to hit you over the head with it in the flashback
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 17:08:03 GMT -5
Loved this episode. This series has really given me faith in other MCU series down the line. I'd be up for anything.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Feb 26, 2021 17:45:42 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Re: The Stark Bomb, in Age of Ultron Wanda says when they were trapped when their parents were killed they were stuck staring at an unexploded bomb that was clearly labeled Stark so they kinda had to hit you over the head with it in the flashback Yeah, I was actually anticipating and hoping they’d stick with it despite {Spoiler}Tony being all dead & celebrated & shit
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 17:55:11 GMT -5
Another good episode that served as a good way to dump a lot of info {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} This was a good introduction to Magic 101 with the beginning scenes and the runes outside of the stuff with Doctor Strange Tyler being a massive asshole is not surprising tho what he said was practical but he still only wants to use Vision for his own devices And so she never stole Visions body. DAMMITT!!! That episode went by fast {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} White Vision, well shit
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Post by Saiyanic Panic on Feb 26, 2021 17:59:59 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Re: The Stark Bomb, in Age of Ultron Wanda says when they were trapped when their parents were killed they were stuck staring at an unexploded bomb that was clearly labeled Stark so they kinda had to hit you over the head with it in the flashback {Spoiler}{Spoiler} It may be on the nose but if so they've been clocking you with the Sledgehammer of Subtlety since 2008.
The missile that explodes by Tony at the start of the original Iron Man has his company's logo on it in big ol' letters, as does the rest of his munitions st the Ten Rings camp.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 18:05:34 GMT -5
So at first, I found the episode was underwhelming and nowhere near a standout like some of the others. But then I thought about it and understood this wasn't a fan-servicy episode we wanted; it was an episode we needed. It progressed the story and answered some (but not all) questions. The end is near and this episode played a big part in getting there. Some questions and observations {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} What's up with Hayward? Why did he lie about Wanda stealing Vision when it would've been easier to tell everyone SWORD still has the body and he has no idea why he's showing up on television.
Disappointed we didn't get Monica, Jimmy and Darcy this week. I love those guys.
Sorta rolled my eyes at "Stark Enterprise" being so visible on the bomb. At first I thought the show was trying too hard to remind us where it's from, then I figured that era's Tony would've wanted his name everywhere in big letters.
Seeing Wanda driving a car (a red one, BTW) is inconsequential yet surreal.
As mentioned earlier, I'm surprised Scratchy ate an insect. That may support the idea Scratchy is another character who was turned into a rabbit.
Interested in how White Vision will be portrayed by Bethany. Will he be totally robotic with no personality, or will he be similar to Ultron? Basically, an evil smartass.
Really sad knowing now that Vision got the deed a long time ago when you think about it. Given the timeline, he had it before Infinity War.
{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Re: The Stark Bomb, in Age of Ultron Wanda says when they were trapped when their parents were killed they were stuck staring at an unexploded bomb that was clearly labeled Stark so they kinda had to hit you over the head with it in the flashback {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} And you have to take into account this may be some people first introduction into MCU or they may have only recently got into it and don't know all the backstory
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 26, 2021 18:11:57 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}My theory on Hayward - he has no ulterior motive or secret agenda. He's simply an idiot who played his hand incredibly poorly. Long shot I know, but it's what I'm going with. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Yea, as I was just saying in mine that he is still an asshole but what he said to Wanda wasn't all the way wrong either
For what they have portrayed him as, he is just a suit being the big corporate guy who can't act on emotion or stress but must deal in logic
It is going to make you come across as an asshole but it is what is required
Trying to send the guns in on Wanda is a scared man not knowing his place in the world
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