Brood Lone Wolf Funker
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Mar 7, 2021 10:12:39 GMT -5
How interesting if {Spoiler} Mordo showed up in Strange 2 and kills Agatha
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Post by Tenshigure on Mar 7, 2021 11:10:53 GMT -5
How interesting if {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Mordo showed up in Strange 2 and kills Agatha Honestly wouldn't put it past them to at least use the threat of that as a plot device to bring Strange and Wanda together in the same location.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 7, 2021 13:54:54 GMT -5
Having sunk in a bit, here's what I think: {Spoiler} I think the disappointment came from the things other people mentioned. Things being resolved too quick. Expecting some big revelation(s), and there being no Mephisto, no mutants, no Fantastic Four, not even Doctor Strange. Instead, things were more understated.
I said this before and I may be reading too much into it, but....things getting resolved within the episode, quickly. Isn't that just like a sitcom? As for Pietro {Spoiler}/Ralph...I think they Rey's parents-ed us. Better yet, it was akin to...THE MANDARIN TWIST.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 7, 2021 14:02:08 GMT -5
It was a good show if you ignore everything outside of Wanda’s personal story.
Everything else about it falls apart when you think about it for more than 5 seconds.
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ronin705
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Post by ronin705 on Mar 7, 2021 15:20:19 GMT -5
In qny case, Jeph Loeb, Joe Q and Brian Bendis can hang their hats on their for better OR WORSE storylines have translated into even more monumental iconography on screen.
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Post by grunt on Mar 7, 2021 18:00:45 GMT -5
I'm still curious to know how much of the missing beats (Darcy being missing for most of the finale, some plot points having so-so, rushed resolutions) was due to the show having a chaotic shooting schedule, with a six months covid-mandated break, and the safety protocols probably wreaking havoc on what was initially planned.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 7, 2021 18:59:57 GMT -5
Another thing that bugs me {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}"They'll never know what you lost." Shut the f*** up Monica. Wanda enslaved an entire town and refused on multiple occasions to release them. Why the hell should they care about her personal issues?
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ronin705
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Post by ronin705 on Mar 7, 2021 19:48:35 GMT -5
Another thing that bugs me {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}"They'll never know what you lost." Shut the f*** up Monica. Wanda enslaved an entire town and refused on multiple occasions to release them. Why the hell should they care about her personal issues? {Spoiler} its almost as if the townsfolk looked at her like she was hated and feared...
Or the fact that exposure to the mind stone MUTATED her mutant latent abilities
Its all breadcrumbs lol
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cosmo
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Post by cosmo on Mar 7, 2021 19:52:21 GMT -5
Another thing that bugs me {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}"They'll never know what you lost." Shut the f*** up Monica. Wanda enslaved an entire town and refused on multiple occasions to release them. Why the hell should they care about her personal issues? {Spoiler}{}If I lived in Westview, I'd wanna tear Wanda's head off and shit down her neck, I don't care how sad she was. She isn't the only person who's had a significant other die.
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ronin705
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Post by ronin705 on Mar 7, 2021 20:59:33 GMT -5
Oops wrong thread lol
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Post by Rolent Tex on Mar 7, 2021 22:21:28 GMT -5
Just a thought I had about Dr. Strange 2 concerning Billy and Tommy... {Spoiler}...considering they cast America Chavez’ actress as around the same age as Billy and Tommy...I can see whoever ends up being the MoM endgame Big Bad having Wanda, Strange and their crew on the ropes with the kids looking on. They know they need to help them and age up one last time...and age up America as well...to their final Young Avengers hero selves.
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chrom
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Post by chrom on Mar 8, 2021 0:13:47 GMT -5
Another thing that bugs me {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}"They'll never know what you lost." Shut the f*** up Monica. Wanda enslaved an entire town and refused on multiple occasions to release them. Why the hell should they care about her personal issues? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{}If I lived in Westview, I'd wanna tear Wanda's head off and shit down her neck, I don't care how sad she was. She isn't the only person who's had a significant other die. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW} Hers didn't come back though
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Dr. T is an alien
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 8, 2021 0:56:11 GMT -5
Another thing that bugs me {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}"They'll never know what you lost." Shut the f*** up Monica. Wanda enslaved an entire town and refused on multiple occasions to release them. Why the hell should they care about her personal issues? {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{}If I lived in Westview, I'd wanna tear Wanda's head off and shit down her neck, I don't care how sad she was. She isn't the only person who's had a significant other die. Believe me, I get that. I don’t think they honestly intended to portray their reactions as anything but justifiable contempt. Yes, it was not intentional at first but when she realized what she did the least she could do was stop controlling them while she explored a way to maintain her family while freeing them from the hex. She didn’t do that. She continued controlling them.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 8, 2021 7:53:45 GMT -5
I'm still curious to know how much of the missing beats (Darcy being missing for most of the finale, some plot points having so-so, rushed resolutions) was due to the show having a chaotic shooting schedule, with a six months covid-mandated break, and the safety protocols probably wreaking havoc on what was initially planned.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 8, 2021 10:41:45 GMT -5
So where do you rank the {Spoiler} Ralph Bohner reveal amongst Rey's parents and the Mandarin?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 8, 2021 10:56:22 GMT -5
So where do you rank the {Spoiler}{Spoiler} Ralph Bohner reveal amongst Rey's parents and the Mandarin? It's the only one of the three I outright didn't like. {Spoiler}They knew what they were doing casting Peters and introducing him in that fashion, and then pulling a "We didn't realise people would actually be disappointed" as if they didn't know exactly what people wanted feels incredibly disingenuous. And they basically wasted a good actor on a bait-and-switch and a boner gag.
With Mandarin I at least understood the reasoning behind wanting to distance themselves from a character that had become increasingly problematic to portray, and appreciated the course correction in All Hail the King. Ralph Boner felt almost mean-spirited.
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Post by James Fabiano on Mar 8, 2021 11:45:56 GMT -5
So where do you rank the {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Ralph Bohner reveal amongst Rey's parents and the Mandarin? It's the only one of the three I outright didn't like. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}They knew what they were doing casting Peters and introducing him in that fashion, and then pulling a "We didn't realise people would actually be disappointed" as if they didn't know exactly what people wanted feels incredibly disingenuous. And they basically wasted a good actor on a bait-and-switch and a boner gag.
With Mandarin I at least understood the reasoning behind wanting to distance themselves from a character that had become increasingly problematic to portray, and appreciated the course correction in All Hail the King. Ralph Boner felt almost mean-spirited. Well yeah, they at least did or will attempt to fix the past two examples. (With TROS, I say this in loosest of terms) Time will tell with this. I mean, I knew {Spoiler} it wasn't going to be a Pietro at all. But we didn't get any of the speculated alternatives either.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 8, 2021 12:17:52 GMT -5
Well yeah, they at least did or will attempt to fix the past two examples. (With TROS, I say this in loosest of terms) Time will tell with this. Obviously how Mandarin is handled in Shang Chi will go a very long way to determining how the Iron Man 3 twist will be reevaluated. We could end up with a situation where it is ultimately seen as worth it, or we could end up wishing they had just played it straight with Ben Kingsley.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Mar 8, 2021 12:57:01 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on Mar 8, 2021 13:02:57 GMT -5
Wanda had a pretty shitty history in the comics...
She and her brother were abandoned when they were babies. Wanda accidentally used her powers and burned down an entire village and killed her adopted parents when she was young. Which is how she earned the "Witch" title. So humans hated her for being a mutant. Her and her brother were experimented on. She was taken in by Magneto, who mostly just used her for her powers. Even after they found out that Magneto was her father. Magneto was a real dick in the comics. She and Pietro eventually decided to be good guys. But the X-Men/Avengers treated her like shit too. Literally took a vote on whether to kill her because she might be too powerful for anyone to control. All she really wanted was a small happy life with a husband and kids. Which she was eventually given in a comic run really similar to Wandavision. But it turned out that her kids were actually pieces of Mephisto's soul, and could only live in Hell. She ended up marrying Vision, but he had his mind erased and basically lost all emotion for her. When she found out that all the other X-Men/Avengers voted to kill her, she did M-day, and took away the powers of all mutants. She accidentally killed some Avenger members. So all the mutants now hated her too. Her magic feeds off her emotion, which is all trauma and pain.
It's pretty f***ed up. I'm kinda curious now after Wandavision, whether they'll try and show her eventual mental breakdown and M-day drama in the MCU. That would be pretty bonkers.
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