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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 13:59:51 GMT -5
Wrestling doctors ain't worth shit I just hope Sting does what he wants and makes it out of this match with no injuries. No real desire to see him taking bumps Thats just it, He doing what he wants. Nobody held a gun to his head to sign with AEW in the first place. There are things he wanted to and that why he signed. The guy has millions in the bank or he should being he was a top player all his career in major wrestling companies for the last 30 years plus. The guy was never known to live a lavish live style like a Flair has. He here now because he wants to be and clearly wants to end his career on a better note. I'm not expecting to see the Sting of old but the guy always seem to take pre good care of himself. As lonbg he can do his man spots which outside the Scorpion Death Drop, are all non back bump moves. If he can take a powerbomb, even that move isn't out of the question but I sure limit how many times he does it. No one held a gun to Undertaker/Flair/Hogan/Goldberg/Kane/Big Show's heads either and forced them to keep wrestling but it didn't stop a lot of people over the years saying they were too old and should retire. Hell, you're seeing it right now in NOAH with Muto at almost 60 being a shell of his former self winning the world title in a poor match and a lot of their fanbase think he shouldn't be wrestling anymore, let alone in big marquee matches. If it was just a one-off cinematic thing to put over someone that would be one thing but with the news that he's signed a 3 year deal I think some people are worried that this 62 year old dude whose peak was 25-30 years ago is going to go over Starks/Cage then continue to have high profile matches for a good while yet. Remember it was just recently that a broken down, unable to walk without a limp Matt Hardy twice went over a guy in Sammy Guevara who should be a future star. In fact, never mind future, even in 2021 Sammy should be on a higher level than Matt and not losing to him. And it's not just an AEW thing. WWE having 53 year old Goldberg coming out on top over arguably their biggest kayfabe threat in The Fiend is probably even worse than 3 of AEW's up and coming stars backing down from Sting for two months straight and potentially losing a match to him. And speaking of Sting himself, he was arguably booked ridiculously strong in TNA for an older, part-time guy. He literally won the main event of their biggest show of the year 3 years straight when he was a semi-retired guy who wrestled 6-12 matches a year. When he beat Jarrett in 06 that was fine, when he beat Angle in 07 that was a little worse but Angle was a made guy anyway but then him going over Joe in 08 really took it too far. Then he returned again in 2011 when he was in his 50s and had really slowed down in the ring and won the world title again. On top of the physical issues, it can be a booking nightmare using these kind of guys in ways that don't make a lot of the current, full-time guys play second fiddle. As TNT champion Darby should in theory be the number two guy in the company right now but he's coming across as Sting's little sidekick.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 18, 2021 15:42:11 GMT -5
Honestly, if Taker got through as many matches as he did (and I fully believe he's in worse shape), Sting has a couple of safe matches in him.
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Post by warden on Feb 18, 2021 16:09:12 GMT -5
These dudes over 50 should really just hang it up for good and go find other hobbies to keep them occupied
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Post by Cyno on Feb 18, 2021 16:11:57 GMT -5
I'm glad we have so many medical experts here.
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Post by 4TheGlory on Feb 18, 2021 16:16:03 GMT -5
Re watching it. Cage took great care of him
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 16:28:03 GMT -5
Sting is known for two things. Not caring about wins and loses and will put anyone over. Secondly taking bumps he probably shouldn’t at his age.
Should be a fun ride.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 18, 2021 16:30:16 GMT -5
If Sting really wants to do physical work and postpone this fusion surgery, then yeah, I'm gonna watch his bumps with a more skeptical eye.
As was mentioned, wrestlers have different styles and so the cases of their bodies aging are all gonna vary. Sometimes you'll get a Minoru Suzuki, who just works stiff but never takes too many big bumps and so he can keep going, or a Jericho who's managed to avoid too much strain and can stay high-impact for years, but time's gonna eventually catch up to them, too. 98% of wrestlers always talk about the permanent aches they've earned. So the likes of Goldberg, Taker and Sting who've done these intense main event level matches for years, you know their bodies are jacked up.
I'm not gonna freak out over Sting working some tag matches where he can make some comebacks and death-drop someone, but he is still at that age where it's super important for wrestlers to work smarter and not harder. All the stuff he's watching Omega, Darby and Private Party do, that's not your current ballpark, buddy.
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Post by Derk! on Feb 18, 2021 17:02:55 GMT -5
That was brutal. He will probably take a couple bumps in the match with Darby taking the rest of them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2021 17:23:51 GMT -5
If Sting really wants to do physical work and postpone this fusion surgery, then yeah, I'm gonna watch his bumps with a more skeptical eye. As was mentioned, wrestlers have different styles and so the cases of their bodies aging are all gonna vary. Sometimes you'll get a Minoru Suzuki, who just works stiff but never takes too many big bumps and so he can keep going, or a Jericho who's managed to avoid too much strain and can stay high-impact for years, but time's gonna eventually catch up to them, too. 98% of wrestlers always talk about the permanent aches they've earned. So the likes of Goldberg, Taker and Sting who've done these intense main event level matches for years, you know their bodies are jacked up. I'm not gonna freak out over Sting working some tag matches where he can make some comebacks and death-drop someone, but he is still at that age where it's super important for wrestlers to work smarter and not harder. All the stuff he's watching Omega, Darby and Private Party do, that's not your current ballpark, buddy. That's why I think it's best to judge on a case by case basis. All things aren't created equal. There are people like Chris Jericho and Triple H who are both 50 but they're still in great shape and not really any different than they were 5-10 years ago. There's no reason they can't go for another couple of years. They're not in the same category as Undertaker/Sting/Goldberg who are so broken down they can't even have a regular 10-15 minute singles match without a bunch of smoke and mirrors to protect them.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Feb 18, 2021 20:03:36 GMT -5
His dyed hair looked awful in certain angles while he was laid out.
I wish he'd embrace the silver mane.
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Post by Legion on Feb 19, 2021 19:14:56 GMT -5
I mean, it's good to see he can still take the bumps, but I just dont want to see it.
He's too old, I find myself more concerned about if he's going to break himself, or someone will break him, than the match or the angle.
He's 61. I dont want to see this.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Feb 19, 2021 19:51:54 GMT -5
I was convinced the street fight at Revolution was gonna be a cinematic but now I'm not so sure
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Post by They Adam Bradley on Feb 19, 2021 19:55:38 GMT -5
I have a really bad feeling about Sting being in legit matches......when you were in as bad as shape as he was, it would be dangerous for a man HALF his age to be in a ring, but someone his AGE, with the issues he has/had been dealing with that could of left him paralyzed....This just doesn't seem good. I dont know why but ive had this sick feeling in my stomach when I saw he might actually wrestle and not just be in a random cinematic match.
I hope I'am wrong, but I feel like something bad will happen and I wish AEW would put a stop to it.
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Post by Kalmia on Feb 19, 2021 20:48:38 GMT -5
We've seen several wrestlers come back from career injuries over the last couple of years. None of them have been as old as Sting obviously, but Edge's situation was about as serious as it can get and he's been working long-ass matches. If the medical experts and Sting are comfortable with him taking a few bumps, then who are we to say they're wrong? I don't want to see Sting wrestle, btw.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 24, 2021 9:05:10 GMT -5
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Post by Dub H on Feb 24, 2021 9:12:23 GMT -5
We've seen several wrestlers come back from career injuries over the last couple of years. None of them have been as old as Sting obviously, but Edge's situation was about as serious as it can get and he's been working long-ass matches. If the medical experts and Sting are comfortable with him taking a few bumps, then who are we to say they're wrong? I don't want to see Sting wrestle, btw. Right,if people are fine with Edge Wrestling they should have no issue with Sting. I dont think either should be either.Hopefully at least the matches are laid out safely
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2021 10:28:57 GMT -5
I have no desire to watch my childhood heroes in their 60s taking dangerous bumps while we fear for their safety, but I think that with this being a "street fight" match and Darby being more than willing to bump like a lunatic at any given time, they should be able to cover for Sting's age and condition fairly well.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 1, 2021 14:46:09 GMT -5
Honestly he looked nimble as f*** when laying the smack down on Cage last week. I was more concerned they did a zipline from the rafters spot.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 1, 2021 15:57:28 GMT -5
Honestly he looked nimble as f*** when laying the smack down on Cage last week. I was more concerned they did a zipline from the rafters spot. Those sorts of things are relatively safe when you don't resort to cheap and shoddy equipment like Vince McMahon did in 1999.
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Post by eJm on Mar 1, 2021 16:04:45 GMT -5
Honestly he looked nimble as f*** when laying the smack down on Cage last week. I was more concerned they did a zipline from the rafters spot. Those sorts of things are relatively safe when you don't resort to cheap and shoddy equipment like Vince McMahon did in 1999. Considering Darby had to take off several straps and belts before even being able to hit someone with a surfboard...yeah, there was nothing to worry about.
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