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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 19, 2021 21:41:12 GMT -5
“I’m going to retire a beloved legend” isn’t usually a statement a babyface makes. Spike piledriver it is, then.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 19, 2021 21:45:45 GMT -5
“I’m going to retire a beloved legend” isn’t usually a statement a babyface makes. Spike piledriver it is, then. That old man kidnapped and tortured Marko, I think Marko gets a slight pass lol
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Feb 19, 2021 21:50:58 GMT -5
“I’m going to retire a beloved legend” isn’t usually a statement a babyface makes. Spike piledriver it is, then. That old man kidnapped and tortured Marko, I think Marko gets a slight pass lol Tully’s daughter is Tessa. Can’t blame him for going off the deep end. Give him a little grace.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2021 16:20:55 GMT -5
I hope so...Marko is impossible to take seriously at 5'2, 120 lbs Do you take Rey Mysterio seriously? Rey is also 4 inches taller and 55 lbs heavier..and considered extremely small that is how small Marko is compared to others in the sport. Reys shoulders are also much wider giving him a larger appearance than Marko as well...I am not trying to be Cornette but i do feel that he is too small to be taken seriously as a physical threat.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Feb 20, 2021 16:27:42 GMT -5
Do you take Rey Mysterio seriously? Rey is also 4 inches taller and 55 lbs heavier..and considered extremely small that is how small Marko is compared to others in the sport. Reys shoulders are also much wider giving him a larger appearance than Marko as well...I am not trying to be Cornette but i do feel that he is too small to be taken seriously as a physical threat. I mean, it's not like the dude pins guys like Brian Cage or anything. If he ever gets pin falls, it's against soup cans. Most of his matches are dodging, a rare comeback move, and getting beat down. He's never been treated like a physical threat.
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Post by eJm on Feb 20, 2021 16:34:21 GMT -5
Rey is also 4 inches taller and 55 lbs heavier..and considered extremely small that is how small Marko is compared to others in the sport. Reys shoulders are also much wider giving him a larger appearance than Marko as well...I am not trying to be Cornette but i do feel that he is too small to be taken seriously as a physical threat. I mean, it's not like the dude pins guys like Brian Cage or anything. If he ever gets pin falls, it's against soup cans. Most of his matches are dodging, a rare comeback move, and getting beat down. He's never been treated like a physical threat. Like, there was a reason he was chosen to face against Lance Archer in his debut where, by the end of it, he was using his corpse to pick that bit of broccoli from his teeth that had been there since catering.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Feb 20, 2021 17:12:28 GMT -5
Do you take Rey Mysterio seriously? Rey is also 4 inches taller and 55 lbs heavier..and considered extremely small that is how small Marko is compared to others in the sport. Reys shoulders are also much wider giving him a larger appearance than Marko as well...I am not trying to be Cornette but i do feel that he is too small to be taken seriously as a physical threat. So where is the specific line of shoulder width or height or weight that makes someone credible? Is it relatively measured, so Marko could take on, say, a cruiserweight by WWE standards up to 205lbs, no taller than 5'8? Does Rey get that plus 50lbs and 4 inches?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2021 17:18:36 GMT -5
I feel like we have the same Marko Stunt argument every few weeks, and it never goes anywhere.
He's a wrestler, and he's good at his job, don't really understand the issue of him shining in multi man matches with wildcard offense and either bring brutalized to put someone over or having fun singles matches. Most of which he does not win, by the way.
He's one of the most unique wrestlers out there BECAUSE of his body type, he's been shown to be over with crowds, people have watched his matches as he's done fine ratings, you can say you can't take him seriously or he "Doesn't belong here" all you want, he constantly proves people wrong.
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Post by pinja on Feb 20, 2021 17:35:10 GMT -5
Rey is not just bigger than Marko, he's also a master of his style. His offense is/was so unique and spectacular that you wanted to see him best The Giant ort Kevin Nash (at least I wanted). Marko is not on his skill level. He's however good at getting squashed. I still wince at that spinning uranage by Archer.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 20, 2021 18:27:40 GMT -5
Rey is not just bigger than Marko, he's also a master of his style. His offense is/was so unique and spectacular that you wanted to see him best The Giant ort Kevin Nash (at least I wanted). Marko is not on his skill level. He's however good at getting squashed. I still wince at that spinning uranage by Archer. Marko is also like 24. Hard for him to be the "Master" of anything when his prime years aren't even close to happening.
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Post by TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out on Feb 20, 2021 21:36:32 GMT -5
Rey is not just bigger than Marko, he's also a master of his style. His offense is/was so unique and spectacular that you wanted to see him best The Giant ort Kevin Nash (at least I wanted). Marko is not on his skill level. He's however good at getting squashed. I still wince at that spinning uranage by Archer. Marko is also like 24. Hard for him to be the "Master" of anything when his prime years aren't even close to happening. I don't disagree with your general point (especially because Marco is never booked as a singles threat) but Rey was 22 when he had THAT match against Eddie at Halloween Havok 97. Rey was the best luchador on the planet at 24. Marco's an excellent gimmick guy who can get the shit kicked out of him like no one else.
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Post by Mozenrath on Feb 20, 2021 21:56:26 GMT -5
“I’m going to retire a beloved legend” isn’t usually a statement a babyface makes. Spike piledriver it is, then. Dude's put his hands on Marko and his friends repeatedly, so it's justified here, even if obviously, I am expecting shenanigans, likely.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Feb 20, 2021 22:12:01 GMT -5
“I’m going to retire a beloved legend” isn’t usually a statement a babyface makes. Spike piledriver it is, then. To be fair I think Marco is saying that he's going to embarrass Tully so badly that he'll just quit the industry.
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Post by pinja on Feb 20, 2021 22:53:18 GMT -5
Rey is not just bigger than Marko, he's also a master of his style. His offense is/was so unique and spectacular that you wanted to see him best The Giant ort Kevin Nash (at least I wanted). Marko is not on his skill level. He's however good at getting squashed. I still wince at that spinning uranage by Archer. Marko is also like 24. Hard for him to be the "Master" of anything when his prime years aren't even close to happening. Besides what TOK Hehe'd Around & Found Out said, it doesn't help his case today. Booking can't compensate for every shortcoming. It's like with the old argument about finishers which are merely transitional moves now. If one claims to have mastered a move it should certainly look that way. Bayley's Bayley to Belly was an awful finisher, because it was a technically awful looking Belly to Belly. Booking couldn't convince me otherwise. Now with Marko, booking doesn't try to convince me he's a world beater. As you said, he's generally considered harmless, but that's why the comparisons to Rey are detrimental. Rey was never considered harmless for a reason. When he's opposing the big lugs, commentary still was intrigued how he'd possibly figure them out. Booking matched his skills. Even then he had his detractors.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 2:16:20 GMT -5
Rey is also 4 inches taller and 55 lbs heavier..and considered extremely small that is how small Marko is compared to others in the sport. Reys shoulders are also much wider giving him a larger appearance than Marko as well...I am not trying to be Cornette but i do feel that he is too small to be taken seriously as a physical threat. So where is the specific line of shoulder width or height or weight that makes someone credible? Is it relatively measured, so Marko could take on, say, a cruiserweight by WWE standards up to 205lbs, no taller than 5'8? Does Rey get that plus 50lbs and 4 inches? I didn't mean it with blatant disrespect even though it was implied. I agree with all the posts that AEW have made the best with the situation and that he is used properly and not in a physically intimidating standpoint. I just don't understand I guess? It destroys the mystique to me of what a wrestler is...or was more likely. I truly wasn't trying to piss you or anyone off
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Post by SAJ Forth on Feb 21, 2021 14:01:15 GMT -5
That old man kidnapped and tortured Marko, I think Marko gets a slight pass lol Tully’s daughter is Tessa. Can’t blame him for going off the deep end. Give him a little grace. It is funny Tully Blanchard's wrestling in a major promotion in the U.S. this year before his daughter.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Feb 21, 2021 14:37:22 GMT -5
True, FTR are extremely stubborn and their gimmick is basically being Rasslin Boomers, but calling them old men? That's harsh.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Feb 21, 2021 14:49:20 GMT -5
I'm happy that AEW can find roles where guys like Tully, Jake and DDP can be useful, not just victims, set dressing or part of a burial, they get to remind people why they're considered legends without damaging anyone. I like Marko, I seem to be in a minority online, but he can lose to Tully and not be damaged because of his stature, and Tully is an evil old SOB who'll cheat to do so.
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Post by defectiveepitaph on Feb 23, 2021 6:00:56 GMT -5
Marko finna catch a body lol
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