Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Feb 25, 2021 21:01:11 GMT -5
Alvarez said it best, book him like Andre the Giant, as a spectacle, the thing WWE never did with him. He made a great point that Andre's peak years were not when he was a spring chicken or a total workhorse, it's when he was the attraction, and Big Show/Paul Wight could definitely do that. I really wanna see him tag with Marko Stunt, there I dont think could be a bigger height difference for a team unless you like got Mei Suruga to team with Great Khali...
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 25, 2021 21:41:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 21:47:52 GMT -5
I can hear the cries of agony about him wrestling, but Show (going to be a long time) is actually still solid in the ring. As he got older his in ring psychology improved significantly and he's in great shape.. Last I saw, anyway.
Absolutely limit his matches and use him as an attraction, but he's an attraction who can still keep you.. attracted when the bell rings. He's not Taker or Goldberg.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Feb 25, 2021 22:24:56 GMT -5
I would prefer to go in to more detail in what I'm about to say but I'm in the middle of an episode of Yellowstone and trying to pay attention.
This should be considered a giant "W" for the AEW brand. Even though Wight is clearly past his full-time availability, this definitely shows that Khan has bargaining power and benefits that in some way, may outweigh other perks that Vince could offer.
Not that they need any other WWE names but hopefully this sets some sort of precedence to other talents when contract negotiations arise. This could potentially pave the way for other "lifers" to make the jump.
Also, one must wonder.. what (if any) bridges has Wight potentially burnt up North? Does this eliminate him from HOF status and eligibility for Legends contract in the future? That right there will probably set the tone for other long time WWE employees who are looking to graze in other pastures.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 25, 2021 23:18:09 GMT -5
Meltzer mentioned on Observer Radio that Show and WWE were very far apart on money for a new deal and he started looking elsewhere. Record breaking money gains this year for them but they can't afford to pay one of the longest tenured guys and ambassadors for the company they've had. That sounds about right. On the other hand, why pay him exorbitant amounts if you’re not interested in using him? I assume he’s been making 7 figures for a while and doesn’t move the needle for WWE anymore. The change is best for all parties.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 26, 2021 6:34:22 GMT -5
I do agree with Meltzer that he should be “limited” in order to come off as more of an “attraction” but that sounds about right. The thing is he's going to be at Dynamite tapings every week to do commentary for 2nd Dark show. So if you have guy like Paul Wight there every week. Well you are going to end up using him on Dynamite a lot and he's going to end up wrestling a decent amount(Tony Khan clearly paid him good money to come so he's gonna use him a lot). You don't have star like him sitting around and not used on tv weekly. He's got way too much value if used right. It's been a while since WWE used him as a big deal. He will probably join a stable or be someone mentor or bodyguard. While he's not got physical issues or concerns like say Sting. He's capable of wrestling 20 matches per year like Jericho and Matt Hardy do.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 26, 2021 6:47:15 GMT -5
Record breaking money gains this year for them but they can't afford to pay one of the longest tenured guys and ambassadors for the company they've had. That sounds about right. On the other hand, why pay him exorbitant amounts if you’re not interested in using him? I assume he’s been making 7 figures for a while and doesn’t move the needle for WWE anymore. The change is best for all parties. Not moving the needle is kinda based off how they book him though. Vince was kinda fazing him out from like 2014 to 2017 before he had hip issues. Putting him in a lot of mid card stuff. He put over guys like Braun or Big Cass before he left. Had brief comeback to team with the Bar in fall 2018 and Then had hip replacement. When he returned this year. Vince just had him as big name to job to Drew on Raw title match or big name legend to face Orton and get punted after the match. He didn't even bring him back like his monster and put him in something important like he has well Kane in recent years. It really feels like he was in WWE too long and Vince got bored of him. So if Vince felt that way. I'm not surprised he didn't want to pay him what he use to. While I expect AEW to use him as a big deal and monster that he is. The guys a giant and his last appearance in WWE had him backing down to Orton after he got in his face in backstage segment. Him leaving is really good for him if he's not ready to retire and feels he still has few years left.
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Post by Bad Moon on Feb 26, 2021 6:57:30 GMT -5
I don't need to see Show wrestle at all, even in a limited capacity, but I'm actually very excited about him as an announcer. Excalibur and Schiavone are great but JR has been undeniably a squeaky wheel, if you want to slot someone into the babyface color analyst position that JR is occupying, Show would be perfect. He could be like a Dominick Cruz for AEW, a commentator who has that legit first hand fighting experience to back up what he's talking about.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 26, 2021 8:58:30 GMT -5
I don't need to see Show wrestle at all, even in a limited capacity, but I'm actually very excited about him as an announcer. Excalibur and Schiavone are great but JR has been undeniably a squeaky wheel, if you want to slot someone into the babyface color analyst position that JR is occupying, Show would be perfect. He could be like a Dominick Cruz for AEW, a commentator who has that legit first hand fighting experience to back up what he's talking about. Well he's going to wrestle and good amount. Wight likely getting over 1 million dollars per year to join AEW. The only ones in AEW making that type of money are the EVPs, Moxley(who AEW brought in to carry main event scene), Jericho(who AEW needed as face of the company. To legitimize them when they started after his last hot WWE and New Japan runs)and Sting(who's merchandise sales with tee shirts and toys will help justify his deal). So the reason he's really doing commentary as well. Along with being regular tv character and wrestle 20 something matches per year. Well it's to justify his contract. Tony Khan not going to be paying him that kinda money. So he can just do commentary on a YouTube show. Other wise 1 million plus(I'm guessing at least 1.3 to 1.5m) to work 50 dates per year and maybe wrestle 20 to 25 matches is a bit much. Even for a famous wrestler like the Wight at 49. But say ok your paying him as announcer for Dark then on air wrestling talent as well. Then ok I can see him making that type of money.
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Post by Bad Moon on Feb 27, 2021 4:16:37 GMT -5
I don't need to see Show wrestle at all, even in a limited capacity, but I'm actually very excited about him as an announcer. Excalibur and Schiavone are great but JR has been undeniably a squeaky wheel, if you want to slot someone into the babyface color analyst position that JR is occupying, Show would be perfect. He could be like a Dominick Cruz for AEW, a commentator who has that legit first hand fighting experience to back up what he's talking about. Well he's going to wrestle and good amount. Wight likely getting over 1 million dollars per year to join AEW. The only ones in AEW making that type of money are the EVPs, Moxley(who AEW brought in to carry main event scene), Jericho(who AEW needed as face of the company. To legitimize them when they started after his last hot WWE and New Japan runs)and Sting(who's merchandise sales with tee shirts and toys will help justify his deal). So the reason he's really doing commentary as well. Along with being regular tv character and wrestle 20 something matches per year. Well it's to justify his contract. Tony Khan not going to be paying him that kinda money. So he can just do commentary on a YouTube show. Other wise 1 million plus(I'm guessing at least 1.3 to 1.5m) to work 50 dates per year and maybe wrestle 20 to 25 matches is a bit much. Even for a famous wrestler like the Wight at 49. But say ok your paying him as announcer for Dark then on air wrestling talent as well. Then ok I can see him making that type of money. Well that's Tony's fault for offering that much money in the first place. I like Show but I wouldn't have hired him as even a part time wrestler 10 years ago much less now.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Feb 27, 2021 4:28:59 GMT -5
Well he's going to wrestle and good amount. Wight likely getting over 1 million dollars per year to join AEW. The only ones in AEW making that type of money are the EVPs, Moxley(who AEW brought in to carry main event scene), Jericho(who AEW needed as face of the company. To legitimize them when they started after his last hot WWE and New Japan runs)and Sting(who's merchandise sales with tee shirts and toys will help justify his deal). So the reason he's really doing commentary as well. Along with being regular tv character and wrestle 20 something matches per year. Well it's to justify his contract. Tony Khan not going to be paying him that kinda money. So he can just do commentary on a YouTube show. Other wise 1 million plus(I'm guessing at least 1.3 to 1.5m) to work 50 dates per year and maybe wrestle 20 to 25 matches is a bit much. Even for a famous wrestler like the Wight at 49. But say ok your paying him as announcer for Dark then on air wrestling talent as well. Then ok I can see him making that type of money. Well that's Tony's fault for offering that much money in the first place. I like Show but I wouldn't have hired him as even a part time wrestler 10 years ago much less now. If you wouldn't hire a 39-year old Paul Wight as a part-timer in 2011, well... That's why TK is running a wrestling company and you're not.
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Post by Derk! on Feb 27, 2021 8:25:51 GMT -5
Big Show had two amazing matches with Braun Strowman and put him over HUGE. I have faith he will attempt to put over as many as he can before he calls it a day.
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Post by polarbearpete on Feb 27, 2021 8:58:08 GMT -5
Big Show had two amazing matches with Braun Strowman and put him over HUGE. I have faith he will attempt to put over as many as he can before he calls it a day. Yes, from what we’ve seen of Show he is still in good shape and can still work. He’s just been stale as a character, which I think switching companies will help.
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Post by markymark on Feb 27, 2021 12:15:07 GMT -5
Big Show had two amazing matches with Braun Strowman and put him over HUGE. I have faith he will attempt to put over as many as he can before he calls it a day. Work with Wardlow is definitely a must, if Wardlow could get something out of Hager, then with Show should be much better.
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Post by toodarkmark on Feb 27, 2021 14:18:56 GMT -5
The top image is ambassador to Special Olympics Big Show. The bottom picture is wrestler Big Show. When you look at the All Elite picture, is it more the top or the bottom? I get that people are obsessed with talking about him being a wrestler, and how often he should wrestle, but I would pay attention to what they presented to the world in announcing him. He is smiling, well shaved, in a suit. They didn't hire Big Show to be Hager, or Matt Hardy, or even Sting. He's an announcer, a big charity guy, someone who is loved by people like Cody Rhodes and Arn Anderson as a human being, and also a wrestler. Him being a wrestler is not the face AEW put forward in announcing him. The face they put forward is the top picture, and everything Paul Wight will be do behind the scenes and in public away from the ring. There is not one kid he works with in Special Olympics or Make A Wish who doesn't know that THAT GUY right there is a professional wrestler. Speculating whether he is worth the money he is being paid ( I didn't see it posted anywhere so who knows how much) is missing out on everything else he brings. Wrestling is far more then the 10 minutes in the ring, there's the whole world built around it, and obviously if you've seen Paul Wight's passionate speeches about Special Olympics, it's more then just a "he is old he shouldnt wrestle more then how many times I think he should wrestle" guy.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 27, 2021 14:24:10 GMT -5
Well he's going to wrestle and good amount. Wight likely getting over 1 million dollars per year to join AEW. The only ones in AEW making that type of money are the EVPs, Moxley(who AEW brought in to carry main event scene), Jericho(who AEW needed as face of the company. To legitimize them when they started after his last hot WWE and New Japan runs)and Sting(who's merchandise sales with tee shirts and toys will help justify his deal). So the reason he's really doing commentary as well. Along with being regular tv character and wrestle 20 something matches per year. Well it's to justify his contract. Tony Khan not going to be paying him that kinda money. So he can just do commentary on a YouTube show. Other wise 1 million plus(I'm guessing at least 1.3 to 1.5m) to work 50 dates per year and maybe wrestle 20 to 25 matches is a bit much. Even for a famous wrestler like the Wight at 49. But say ok your paying him as announcer for Dark then on air wrestling talent as well. Then ok I can see him making that type of money. Well that's Tony's fault for offering that much money in the first place. I like Show but I wouldn't have hired him as even a part time wrestler 10 years ago much less now. Have you seen his matches with Braun? Or watched him at all in recent years. He's been now in ring then he was 10 to 15 years ago and in a lot better shape
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 27, 2021 14:38:53 GMT -5
The top image is ambassador to Special Olympics Big Show. The bottom picture is wrestler Big Show. When you look at the All Elite picture, is it more the top or the bottom? I get that people are obsessed with talking about him being a wrestler, and how often he should wrestle, but I would pay attention to what they presented to the world in announcing him. He is smiling, well shaved, in a suit. They didn't hire Big Show to be Hager, or Matt Hardy, or even Sting. He's an announcer, a big charity guy, someone who is loved by people like Cody Rhodes and Arn Anderson as a human being, and also a wrestler. Him being a wrestler is not the face AEW put forward in announcing him. The face they put forward is the top picture, and everything Paul Wight will be do behind the scenes and in public away from the ring. There is not one kid he works with in Special Olympics or Make A Wish who doesn't know that THAT GUY right there is a professional wrestler. Speculating whether he is worth the money he is being paid ( I didn't see it posted anywhere so who knows how much) is missing out on everything else he brings. Wrestling is far more then the 10 minutes in the ring, there's the whole world built around it, and obviously if you've seen Paul Wight's passionate speeches about Special Olympics, it's more then just a "he is old he shouldnt wrestle more then how many times I think he should wrestle" guy. There's not a picture of him in wrestling gear. Because they don't own any photos of him as a wrestler. I agree with what you said though he brings a lot to The table. The suit photo is probably from when they signed him. Heres the official press release.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 27, 2021 14:59:13 GMT -5
People are acting like Paul Wight's the Great Khali or something. Dude can more than hold his own in the ring as a power wrestler and brawler, and he has great ring instincts and awareness, especially for a guy his size. Yeah, he's no Fenix or Penta, but he doesn't need to be. He's plenty athletic for a guy his size and is in some of the best shape he's ever been.
The worst parts about his WWE run have been entirely because of how the company booked him, with his constant alignment shifts and stale character work. This will be the first time in over 20 years we get to see what Wight's like with a change of scenery where he will no doubt have a lot more creative freedom compared to McMahon's micromanaging.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 27, 2021 18:12:08 GMT -5
Get yourself a friend like Arn.
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Post by moxfan1 on Feb 28, 2021 3:15:43 GMT -5
Who's bigger star Paul Wight/Big Show or Chris Jericho?
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